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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Well, good on you. And, then again, people like you are the reason why the PvP in this game does have such restrictions, so how's that for irony.
    I am actually happy it takes so long to kill people who do not fight back. The game would be a shit-show otherwise. The way they have it will reduce most of the griefing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    I am actually happy it takes so long to kill people who do not fight back. The game would be a shit-show otherwise. The way they have it will reduce most of the griefing.
    No it won't because the people wanting to do the griefing won't care how long it takes to kill the player.

    Hell you get people griefing on PVE servers in WoW by just killing quest NPC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    a rifle shouldn't weigh 18 pounds, when a mini-gun weighs 20
    Yeah, rifles aren't generally that heavy. The AK weighs less than 8 pounds empty. A hunting rifle would be around the same, or less. On the other hand, the M134 Minigun weighs 85 pounds, or apparently 41 pounds with a "lightweight mod", according to Wikipedia.

    People would love an 85 pound minigun, I'm sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    No it won't because the people wanting to do the griefing won't care how long it takes to kill the player.

    Hell you get people griefing on PVE servers in WoW by just killing quest NPC's.
    It raises the bar for those wanting to grief. If you took more damage the chances are that more people would grief. The way they have it will make it so the people who are truly dedicated to wanting to do it will still do it. But some random passing guy will most likely not want to waste his ammo on a kill that will net him nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    It raises the bar for those wanting to grief. If you took more damage the chances are that more people would grief. The way they have it will make it so the people who are truly dedicated to wanting to do it will still do it. But some random passing guy will most likely not want to waste his ammo on a kill that will net him nothing.
    It really doesn't tho because there is no "punishment" for the attackers.

    Honestly they should in some way copy OSRS PVP system. In OSRS if you attack first you are marked and on death you lose all your gear. Just getting flagged with a bounty doesn't really do anything.

    Now I'm not saying copy OSRS system 1:1 but there has to be some negative to a attacker, Losing ammo isn't that negative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    It really doesn't tho because there is no "punishment" for the attackers.

    Honestly they should in some way copy OSRS PVP system. In OSRS if you attack first you are marked and on death you lose all your gear. Just getting flagged with a bounty doesn't really do anything.

    Now I'm not saying copy OSRS system 1:1 but there has to be some negative to a attacker, Losing ammo isn't that negative.
    I would be ok with that. Speaking of OSRS it just launched today on mobile. Ahh man I still remember over a decade ago having me and my buddies ask random people around Varrok if they wanted to come pvp with us and we would get them to skull and then kill them(this was back in Rs1 days). Remembering this has made me realize that in games with pvp I have always been a dick. Yeah losing ammo is not that painful, especially since you can make it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Here are a couple articles for those interested:

    How Fallout 76 Microtransactions And Atoms Work (Gamespot)
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    The launcher bug has to be the most Bethesda thing ever and I can't stop giggling.

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    On one hand this was obvious (I guess), but on the other hand I'm sure there are people out there who were wondering about it, so here's confirmation (as much as people are willing to believe what Bethesda representatives say, that is);

    There will be more B.E.T.A. dates and times after the 4th, and before the 14th, to be announced later.

    https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/1057542771525902337

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/...67214570442752



    9 hour B.E.T.A. next time, instead of the 5 it was supposed to be.
    All well and good, but they're trying to make me too sleepy to work on Friday.

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    Got in for BETA around 830, over all I had a good time and didn't come across much in bugs to report. I didn't like the distance fog, seemed that after 40-50 feet things started to get blurry. I was also having a lot of random frame rate issues, tanking noticeably (1080ti, i7-7770K @4.8GHz). Also, is the in game chat set to open mic by default? I started streaming to show some friends the game and as I was talking to them in discord someone in game thought I was chatting them up. Made for a pretty funny encounter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    So... what's everyones favorite part of the game so far? Mine is when all the scorched phased through the earth and started attacking me from underground where I couldn't fight back.
    My favourite part has been being able to install it today.

    I hope I actually get to play it tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    My favourite part has been being able to install it today.

    I hope I actually get to play it tomorrow.
    I look forward to seeing how they botch the Tursday beta.
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    https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/31/1...d-hack-exploit How to one up the god damn button on the launcher.
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    The people who cry for censorship aren't going to be buying the game anyway. Censoring it, is going to piss off the people who were going to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/31/1...d-hack-exploit How to one up the god damn button on the launcher.
    Honestly doesn't surprise me much, these "bugs" have existed in most of their titles and they never really fixed them. Its why i am really holding my enthusiasm back for this game, so used to weird physic bugs that i can't imagine 76 would be unique.
    We live in an era of "me versus them", an era where something is done that you don't like means you are personally attacked. People whine too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/31/1...d-hack-exploit How to one up the god damn button on the launcher.
    Holy shit, they still haven't fixed that issue? Does anyone at Bethesda even bloody play their games on PC? This is mind bogglingly stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Does anyone at Bethesda even bloody play their games on PC?
    No. They are console players for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/31/1...d-hack-exploit How to one up the god damn button on the launcher.
    I say leave it in. Just have the server also establish where you should be, based on expected movement speed. Everyone else sees you where the server "sees" you, and your client's just glitching out. Or some similar "you thought you could cheat, but nah" kind of deal.

    The other, simpler fix is to have the client check the .ini and flag certain settings as "cheating" and fail to launch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I say leave it in. Just have the server also establish where you should be, based on expected movement speed. Everyone else sees you where the server "sees" you, and your client's just glitching out. Or some similar "you thought you could cheat, but nah" kind of deal.

    The other, simpler fix is to have the client check the .ini and flag certain settings as "cheating" and fail to launch.
    So... you would have them treat owning a faster video card as cheating? Seems a bit harsh.
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