I hate Sylvanas. She's overrated dull Character.

[Hawkknight97]

Title says it all.

Not only is Sylvanas a overrated dull Character but She is a Mary Sue that gets whatever she wants with no consequences, She has no mortal code of respecting the very Faction she leads, She doesn't care about her Family or People, and is a selfish entitled idiot that I hope she gets killed so that Horde can go back to its old roots. The Real Roots of the Horde. Not this Fan Service Character that gets all the spotlight while the rest of the horde ether doesn't the get the spotlight or just standing in the background doing nothing.

Sooner we kill Banshee Sue the better WoW can go back to its old roots of having a Great Horde Faction again.

[Lionhearte0]

Title says it all.

Not only is Sylvanas a overrated dull Character but She is a Mary Sue that gets whatever she wants with no consequences, She has no mortal code of respecting the very Faction she leads, She doesn't care about her Family or People, and is a selfish entitled idiot that I hope she gets killed so that Horde can go back to its old roots. The Real Roots of the Horde. Not this Fan Service Character that gets all the spotlight while the rest of the horde ether doesn't the get the spotlight or just standing in the background doing nothing.

Sooner we kill Banshee Sue the better WoW can go back to its old roots of having a Great Horde Faction again.

If you hate her because of the actions she's taken (i.e. "She has no mortal code of respecting the very Faction she leads, She doesn't care about her Family or People, and is a selfish entitled idiot"), than she has an effective character design.

[GreenJesus]

Wow! A completely new perspective that totally needed to be created!

[Oneirophobia]

She has no mortal code

Of course not, shes dead.

[Zandalariprelate]

Lionknight is back boys, release the high elves memes!

[Hawkknight97]

Lionknight is back boys, release the high elves memes!

I'm back and Still to this very day. You people are still the same as last time.

[Phunkle]

Not sure what you are hoping to accomplish with this kind of thread. This topic has been beaten to death in almost every other lore thread, so you'll only attract more negativity by creating a new one without any spin on the debate.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Her worst crime of all? Preventing playable high elves by getting blood elves into the Horde

[ZazuuPriest]

yea anduin pulling an in combat mass rez out of his ass .... no mary sue there

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Her worst crime of all? Preventing playable high elves by getting blood elves into the Horde

blood elves are high elves get over it

[Izalla]

blood elves are high elves get over it

joke

your head

[Aucald]

There is an existing megathread for the High Elf debate - let's keep it there and not pollute other threads/forums with it. Thanks.

[SirCowdog]

If you hate her because of the actions she's taken (i.e. "She has no mortal code of respecting the very Faction she leads, She doesn't care about her Family or People, and is a selfish entitled idiot"), than she has an effective character design.

I think there's a difference between hating her and the actions she takes within the context of the story, and hating the way in which she's written poorly. I believe the OP is referring to the latter, but I could be wrong.

[Freaking Frumpy Frak]

What I hate is that she the archetypical "infallible sassy female assassin" cliche.
I hate that she does these villainous things but the story treats her like a fucking hero. That's starting to change but I assume Blizzard has some contrived twist up their sleeve that's going to reveal that Sylvanus was actually the goodest guy all along.
I hate that Garrosh was immediately kicked out for being a meanie to the troll who had been antagonising him from day one, while the Horde is mostly blindly following Sylvanus after she repeatedly started wars for no/selfish reasons.

Wow! A completely new perspective that totally needed to be created!

No one forced you to read it. Don't like it? Keep scrolling.

[Ashleyxoxo]

I don't know why people find her sexy. Her face is old!

[GreenJesus]

What I hate is that she the archetypical "infallible sassy female assassin" cliche.
I hate that she does these villainous things but the story treats her like a fucking hero. That's starting to change but I assume Blizzard has some contrived twist up their sleeve that's going to reveal that Sylvanus was actually the goodest guy all along.
I hate that Garrosh was immediately kicked out for being a meanie to the troll who had been antagonising him from day one, while the Horde is mostly blindly following Sylvanus after she repeatedly started wars for no/selfish reasons.



No one forced you to read it. Don't like it? Keep scrolling.

He didn't add anything that hasn't been beaten to death in the thousands of threads created already. Why isn't this thread removed for being spam/trolling?

[Minikin]

There is an existing megathread for the High Elf debate - let's keep it there and not pollute other threads/forums with it. Thanks.

we might also need a sylvanas megathread XD

[Zandalariprelate]

we might also need a sylvanas megathread XD

At his point we need a horde, alliance, Saurfang, Anduin and Jaina megathread and someplace to lock out the helves fans with that weirdo rp alleria guy

Infracted.

[Draqson]

Well, I think you're wrong.

Though her writing saw better days, she still remains the most interesting character in the lore. That ofc is personal preference, but hey that didnt stop you either. I hope Blizzard is not taking the safe route and kills her off... again. Even if she goes full on villain, charismatic villains are the essence of a story. Just think of Batman without the Joker. Getting rid of her just to please a bunch of sweet tempered peace loving wimps collecting herbs to lvl up, wouldnt bring back "the old days" where there wasnt really much of a conflict at all. This tame Horde vs. Alliance war needed fresh blood, controversy and a touch of intrigue to actually distinguish the Horde from being just green-skinned Alliance. This is World of Warcraft after all, not World of Occasional Skirmishes - Battle for Ethics.

Obviously opinions differ, but for me it feels good to be bad.

[Kithelle]

Well, I think you're wrong.

Though her writing saw better days, she still remains the most interesting character in the lore. That ofc is personal preference, but hey that didnt stop you either. I hope Blizzard is not taking the safe route and kills her off... again. Even if she goes full on villain, charismatic villains are the essence of a story. Just think of Batman without the Joker. Getting rid of her just to please a bunch of sweet tempered peace loving wimps collecting herbs to lvl up, wouldnt bring back "the old days" where there wasnt really much of a conflict at all. This tame Horde vs. Alliance war needed fresh blood, controversy and a touch of intrigue to actually distinguish the Horde from being just green-skinned Alliance. This is World of Warcraft after all, not World of Occasional Skirmishes - Battle for Ethics.

Obviously opinions differ, but for me it feels good to be bad.

Most interesting character in lore?

She is a female version of the Lich King who tries to pretend she is better than she really is...she couldn't be much more one dimensional than she is now...she is a saturday morning cartoon villain without the mustache to twirl.

There is nothing interesting about her unless you're obsessed with mindless slaughter...or well lets be honest here...we know what most of her fans are obsessed with!

[Friendlyimmolation]

Most interesting character in lore?

She is a female version of the Lich King who tries to pretend she is better than she really is...she couldn't be much more one dimensional than she is now...she is a saturday morning cartoon villain without the mustache to twirl.

There is nothing interesting about her unless you're obsessed with mindless slaughter...or well lets be honest here...we know what most of her fans are obsessed with!

with how upset people like you are over her?