No Diablo 4

[Keile]

D3's combat engine is a marvel of software engineering when you step back, watch what's going on in a fight and start thinking about all the graphic and math calculations going on at once. It's one of the best things I've ever seen. I've always wished there was a more old-style ARPG design to go with it.

Say what you will about D3. Actually going around, killing shit...seeing and HEARING items drop.. They got all the aesthetics down.

To this day it is STILL satisfying to hear the Legendary item drop noise....

[Xanadrienne]

Well blizz basicly said that they shifted their "best developers" to mobile project

RIP Diablo 4

Many of their best developers. Not most, not all, many.

[prwraith]

As long as Diablo 4 is darker than Diablo 3 idc. Diablo 3 was too happy campy fun time for me.

[MrPaladinGuy]

D4 is guaranteed to be filled with microtransactions if it gets made.

Ironically, this comes to mind- You Think You Do, But You Don't™

[Vineri]

D4 is guaranteed to be filled with microtransactions if it gets made.

Ironically, this comes to mind- You Think You Do, But You Don't™

Several years ago, I'd say you're crazy!..

But actually you're likely correct. Activision baby.

[RobertoCarlos]

you honestly don't think they put all the best devs on mobile and left pc with mediocre ones do you ?

well yeah, thats pretty much exactly what they said.

[Nihilist74]

D3's combat engine is a marvel of software engineering when you step back, watch what's going on in a fight and start thinking about all the graphic and math calculations going on at once. It's one of the best things I've ever seen. I've always wished there was a more old-style ARPG design to go with it.

This is what I love about diablo 3 the most. Is the classes, class abilities and the rotation of using those abilities similar to wow. The only thing I would wish them to do is make the world in diablo4 more of a large open world like an mmo world.

[glowpipe]

well yeah, thats pretty much exactly what they said.

Yeah. cause a company saying "Our best developers" mean its only the best right. They call all their devs the best. You think they would say something like "We put some developers over to mobile, including dave, he sucks at coding for pc, but he is capable for mobile"

[RobertoCarlos]

Yeah. cause a company saying "Our best developers" mean its only the best right. They call all their devs the best. You think they would say something like "We put some developers over to mobile, including dave, he sucks at coding for pc, but he is capable for mobile"

Well Wyatt Cheng is on the mobile game who was lead on diablo 3 after Jay Wilson was fired.

So the current lead diablo guy is focusing on mobile.

But keep pretending like its business as usual as blizzard outsource a game to china and continue to focus on micro transactions in all their games

[Puupi]

I will always believe that D3 WAS salvageable. The engine and the gameplay are amazing. The problem is character progression and poor endgame for the players and lack of monetization options (and a game poorly built for customization options to matter so you can monetize them) for the company.

They should have went with a subscription model or in-game shop option and constantly push out new content in forms of new classes, new dungeon layouts, bosses etc.

[glowpipe]

Well Wyatt Cheng is on the mobile game who was lead on diablo 3 after Jay Wilson was fired.

So the current lead diablo guy is focusing on mobile.

But keep pretending like its business as usual as blizzard outsource a game to china and continue to focus on micro transactions in all their games

But it is business as usual for a company who's main goal is to earn money to expand to a market that holds 51% of the gaming revenue and microtransactions is not just accepted, its expected

Don't get me wrong. I hate blizzard for what they did on this Blizzcon, i hate that they made a mobile game and i strongly hope it fails. I hate that they let diablo 3 die.

But i don't think them putting devs on mobile is the final nail in the coffin. They said they are working on a new game and content for D3. Now we just have to wait and see what that is. If that content is failing hard aswell, then we can start talking about the final nail for the diablo franchise

[Coldkil]

D3's combat engine is a marvel of software engineering when you step back, watch what's going on in a fight and start thinking about all the graphic and math calculations going on at once. It's one of the best things I've ever seen. I've always wished there was a more old-style ARPG design to go with it.

Agree. Ultimately it falls short for the same exact reason - when there's too much aoe = calculations everything lags to the point servers are impacted; though it's more a problem due to the gameplay shortages (aoe being king of everything) and incredibly useless and inane power creep (=huge numbers that are just a pain to manage).

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No for sure, when PoE was new I had my issues with it. It's obviously come a long way though and I'm happy to see the rather large influx of players it seems to have attracted recently. It really deserves a solid chance from everyone who enjoys ARPGs at all!

Yeah, the major issues right now are a) the pile of mechanics put on top of each other that make everything more complex at start and for new players is really confusing and b) economy is just borked due to years of inflation and people farming currencies; new leagues are just better since everyone starts form scratch, but experienced players are just so fast and efficient that economy slowly devolves.

If anything, i'd just recommend new players to play SSF, while being harder is just more streamlined and "easier" to dabble with and understand the game mechanics.

[Deleted]

That's fine. No money from me to you then, Activision. I'll take my custom elsewhere. That's fine by me. More savings.

[DeltrusDisc]

That's fine. No money from me to you then, Activision. I'll take my custom elsewhere. That's fine by me. More savings.

http://pathofexile.com/

You can even play the entire game for free!

[mrgreenthump]

That's fine. No money from me to you then, Activision. I'll take my custom elsewhere. That's fine by me. More savings.

Yeah well that's the usual way of doing things. If a company doesn't make a good product, don't support them. Blizzard just was the exception, because their quality used to be out of the park every time. Now Act-Blizz needs to prove they are worth our money like everyone else.

[matrix123mko]

I wonder when the "news for PC players later this year" will happen.

There's what...6 weeks left of this year?

Interesting. New Year's Eve announcement?

[Deleted]

http://pathofexile.com/

You can even play the entire game for free!

Thanks for the pro-tip. PoE is on the to do list. I was also looking into playing more RuneScape (non-mobile versions). Or "Just take my money" RuneScape as I like to call it.

Yeah well that's the usual way of doing things. If a company doesn't make a good product, don't support them. Blizzard just was the exception, because their quality used to be out of the park every time. Now Act-Blizz needs to prove they are worth our money like everyone else.

Quite true. The only way I've ever had any effect on the gaming industry getting myself heard is by voting with my wallet. Diablo Immortal will be no exception. Flying in Warlord's of Draenor comes to mind as an example. Hopefully others will do the same so we get listened to when the gazillions aren't flowing into Acti-Blizz's coffer's because they have trolled their own fan's. I think BlizzCon was the final straw for many Diablo fans.

[DeltrusDisc]

Thanks for the pro-tip. PoE is on the to do list. I was also looking into playing more RuneScape (non-mobile versions). Or "Just take my money" RuneScape as I like to call it.



Quite true. The only way I've ever had any effect on the gaming industry getting myself heard is by voting with my wallet. Diablo Immortal will be no exception. Flying in Warlord's of Draenor comes to mind as an example. Hopefully others will do the same so we get listened to when the gazillions aren't flowing into Acti-Blizz's coffer's because they have trolled their own fan's. I think BlizzCon was the final straw for many Diablo fans.

I hope you're right, but on a very large scale. Companies like Acti-Blizz need a reminder that they are not invincible.

[mrgreenthump]

I hope you're right, but on a very large scale. Companies like Acti-Blizz need a reminder that they are not invincible.

Their stock being down by 45% since Blizzcon is quite the reminder on how not to do things. Then again all of the big gaming companies are on the decline so it's probably not all about them. Still though, they must be panicing.

[Violetti]

Their stock being down by 45% since Blizzcon is quite the reminder on how not to do things. Then again all of the big gaming companies are on the decline so it's probably not all about them. Still though, they must be panicing.

45% is not true, and blizzardstocks are far from being the only ones going down last month