Trends in terrorism

[JohnBrown1917]

A friend called me alt right, since then i dont talk to him. He dont understand... that its like calling me nazi. I have a immigrant fiance and im not racist more then most people im just a ateist that dont like religion. But now adays you have to love islam even when its as stupid as extream christians...

I really don't care what your friend calls you.

[Bodonius]

The far right thinks anybody to the left of them is far left, nothing new.

Everyone is crazy, your against animals being killed in a way that hurts alot... now not allowed to because thats hallal
If your not a member of the leftist church then they will blame you for whatever you do, you cant do right

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I really don't care what your friend calls you.

And I guess you are a kind and caring person so much proof of that.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

How people use a word define what a word mean, right now antifa is fascist because people see fascism like violence and against free speech then a national movment in itally. Just like you can call people that arent german nationalists nazi. You dont get it?

Ya no one who doesn’t spend a ton of time on the internet/social media sees antifa as fascist there just abunch of rioting assholes to most people.

[Bodonius]

Ya no one who doesn’t spend a ton of time on the internet/social media sees antifa as fascist there just abunch of rioting assholes to most people.

True, most see them as troublemakers that want to break windows at shops and steal things

[Lorgar Aurelian]

So nazism wasnt about germany thats what your saying?
Sorry, so when yelling fascist pigs to the police what does antifa mean?

You did not need to be German to be a Nazi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th...(1st_Croatian)

[Xarkan]

Or its not a language problem, its a american problem they dont have the same meaning of nazi, fascism and socialism as europeans

Perhaps the American redefinition of the meanings of words describing political movements should not rule you if you are European.

Regardless you said earlier

I hope we all agree that national socialist just like all socialists should die out.

And then you labeled yourself a social democrat

The Swedish Social Democrats were, as many of these parties, part of the Socialist International. They left in march 2017

The SI is one of the socialist movements (obviously)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

[Bodonius]

But members of other countries is called housenazi? And the whole point of everything was to make a big germany... So if not a german your pretty much a slave to german even if not a german nazi so either my teachers lied or the only good nazi is a german nazi

[Cjeska]

So despite the doomsayers of the internet saying that Europe will soon be destroyed by islamist terrorists, the trend doesn't seem to support that claim.

I've never heard anyone make that claim that we will be destroyed by islamic terrorism. Maybe you need to clean your ears and / or get some glasses, because the criticism is clearly the islamic ideology itself and everything bad that comes with it. Making straw man arguments just so you can disprove them with cherry picked statistics is not something anyone worth listening to would do.

[Bodonius]

Perhaps the American redefinition of the meanings of words describing political movements should not rule you if you are European.

Regardless you said earlier



And then you labeled yourself a social democrat

The Swedish Social Democrats were, as many of these parties, part of the Socialist International. They left in march 2017

The SI is one of the socialist movements (obviously)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

I have layers im a complicated person.
Im a socialist but also a liberalist. I do belive in helping all but also about freedom.
I want heavy social programs to help the 50% of the public that struggle, but also allow everyone to speak their mind about the goverment.

[zenkai]

Earlier you did, but then you replied:

I am not even sure that was English, so I am not sure how to reply to this.

So yes, you were being a bit of an ass there.

Yeah, I am an ass to people who post stupid shit. Never denied that.

[Cjeska]

True, most see them as troublemakers that want to break windows at shops and steal things

Though their methods against intellectual dissidents is fascist in nature. There is a reason why even slight deviations from the norm will get you ostracized from these groups.

[Bodonius]

Though their methods against intellectual dissidents is fascist in nature. There is a reason why even slight deviations from the norm will get you ostracized from these groups.

You say it better then me. I agree

[Shaderas]

Yeah, I am an ass to people who post stupid shit. Never denied that.

So you're an ass to everyone? Because almost everyone I see here has posted stupid shit at one time or another

[zenkai]

So you're an ass to everyone? Because almost everyone I see here has posted stupid shit at one time or another

LOL, some are easier to forgive than others

[Themius]

A whole 3 to 17 across whole of Western Europe? That kind of pales in comparison to islamists committing terror attacks with the one in France 2015 claiming 130 victims. I know which I'd be the most worried about if I lived there.

Do you even realize how ridiculous it is to fear something going from 3 to 17?

You’re Korean. There are areas where you don’t want to go else you’d be a victim of far right whites.

[Azelas]

The "War on Terror" is over. Terrorism is basically just another form of crime really - and not a very common one. Even during 2001 - 9/11 killed what, 3,000 people? Regular old homicide was ~14,000. And that's the most people they ever killed, whereas the US homicide rate is a yearly occurrence.

So I'm sure there will still be the occasional car attack, and of course intercepting cells and hunting down the wannabe terrorists is still important. But it's just part of the background noise of crime.

There are certainly some trends though. Now that they're desperate, out of resources and their cells are shut down or heavily monitored, organised attacks are rarer. Most of the "terrorist attacks" we've seen lately have been repeat offender low level criminals, typically with a history of drug abuse, who snap and commit an attack with questionable links to any greater organisation. The attacks are opportunistic, eg car rammings rather than anything planned out and well equipped.

And yes, far right violence is definitely an increasing concern.



Looking back over the history of terrorist attacks in Europe, Islamic attacks were sporadic and nowhere near the level of earlier periods like the 70s, 80s and early 90s.


https://www.statista.com/chart/4093/...pe-since-1970/

This is raw numbers, not even adjusting for population growth which would make the trend even more stark.

Basically, the IRA, ETA and a few others killed way more people in Europe than Islamic terrorism ever did, even if you include the outliers like Madrid, London and Paris.

Our parents and grandparents lived through an era of far worse terrorism in Europe than we have.

But Islamic terrorist attacks are a big problem... in the Middle East:


https://www.statista.com/chart/4094/...akistan-et-al/

how dare you bring data to a factless ideology-driven "discussion" where one side just tries to beat the other with baseless rhethoric and retarded arguments?

madman

[Malaky]

Nationalism.. you know, the most defining part of fascism?

But not the only one. That's not the point here, and nationalism in itself isn't bad.

And ye, its totally okay to suppress people who want to commit genocide, they are dangerous people. You can see both sides as equally bad, but that just deserves mocking.

Again you're missing the point. To the fascist any opposition is the enemy, as it happens with those antifa nutcracks.
Anyone they don't like "wants to commit genocide" regardless of what the people they're suppressing actually wants or is saying.

You've completely gobbled up their excuses.

[ParanoiD84]

Didnt take long before people starting mentioning the pussies antifa as usual.

Also was this a thread to point out that right wing terrorism is more of a threat then islamic terrorism? lmao, both groups are nazis though with the islamic terrorists acually still do nazi things in this day and age, like genocide, ethnic cleansing etc etc.

[JohnBrown1917]

But not the only one. That's not the point here, and nationalism in itself isn't bad.



Again you're missing the point. To the fascist any opposition is the enemy, as it happens with those antifa nutcracks.
Anyone they don't like "wants to commit genocide" regardless of what the people they're suppressing actually wants or is saying.

You've completely gobbled up their excuses.

But they are not fascists. Fascism is a nationalistic ideology, I dont care you dont find nationalism a bad thing or not, these are facts.
And we are talking about actions against fascism, not the people you have dreamed up in your head.

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Everyone is crazy, your against animals being killed in a way that hurts alot... now not allowed to because thats hallal
If your not a member of the leftist church then they will blame you for whatever you do, you cant do right

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What does that even have to do with what I said?

And I guess you are a kind and caring person so much proof of that.

The hell you on about?

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But members of other countries is called housenazi? And the whole point of everything was to make a big germany... So if not a german your pretty much a slave to german even if not a german nazi so either my teachers lied or the only good nazi is a german nazi

That was the point of the german nazis. Other countries are also "germanic".
Not to mention slavic nazis still exist, it does not have to make sense.

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I've never heard anyone make that claim that we will be destroyed by islamic terrorism. Maybe you need to clean your ears and / or get some glasses, because the criticism is clearly the islamic ideology itself and everything bad that comes with it. Making straw man arguments just so you can disprove them with cherry picked statistics is not something anyone worth listening to would do.

You should pay more attention.

[Sky High]

Do you even realize the amount of people in Sweden who claim that the islamists are coming to murder us all and that muslims are the biggest threat to Sweden in the history of our nation simply because of 1 terrorist attack that claimed the lives of 5 people two years ago?

I'm not saying that the far right is more dangerous than islamic terrorists as a whole, I'm not a moron. But the rhetoric is laughable. The amount of fearmongering related to muslims is just off the charts these days while people shrug off any time a far right extremist comits a violent crime with "Well what do you expect?"

well yeah, same as with America and thinking a bunch of fucking women and kids are members of MS13 or some shit. idiots have to have their scapegoats to pin all their fears and problems on.