Poll: Time to categorize the "Alt-Right" as a violent extremist ideology

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  1. #61
    Totally agree on the premise that people can stop painting anyone right of center or anyone who doesn't agree with every left wing agenda as "Alt-right"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyggalag View Post
    Totally agree on the premise that people can stop painting anyone right of center or anyone who doesn't agree with every left wing agenda as "Alt-right"
    Theres no "painting" needed. The shooter is your run of the mill conservative; using your run of the mill conservative rhetoric and a heavy penchant towards conspiracy theories.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druenos View Post
    Alt right is just a term the far left invented for anybody who doesn't agree with their ludicrious SJW agenda.
    Odd I’ve never been called alt right even when not agreeing with said “SJWs” if seems as if there is more to it then that.

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    Yes and no. This would apply to the more extremist adherents, sure, but to go and say that most self-styled alt-righters are on the same level as Salafists, well, that's thankfully not the case, otherwise we would've seen way worse than what has happened till now. Comparing Watson to Choudary? Don't make me laugh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    I'm getting infracted by an American moderator on an American topic promoting/advocating weapons on a childrens forum, what else to expect on an American forum. I'm done here and i'm going to leave you one thing to remember:
    [extremely graphic picture of dead children]
    Hope you sleep well. With the lack of empathy the majority of you show i guess that won't be a problem. BB

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    He wants a government that caters just to the right and whims of white people and the "superior" culture. He is a conservative through and through, wanting to payback as a means to preserve white society from the invaders. You're in denial if you think this was anything else.
    No, I think you are ignorant to the point of stupidity if you think that manifesto was real. The entire thing was written as soundbites for the media to echo far and wide. He even says as much in the damn thing.

    As I said before, read it, then watch the actual livestream. No one puts as much thought into this as that guy did, and then performs as poorly as they did when it comes time. And that is without even going into the problems with the logic in the manifesto itself.
    Unreason and anti-intellectualism abominate thought. Thinking implies disagreement; and disagreement implies nonconformity; and nonconformity implies heresy; and heresy implies disloyalty — so, obviously, thinking must be stopped. But shouting is not a substitute for thinking and reason is not the subversion but the salvation of freedom. - Adlai Stevenson

  6. #66
    For people like Richard Spencer, yes. But, I have a problem with the term alt-right being thrown around so loosely, that I would say no for this poll.

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    I’m cool with calling all extremist ideologies violent. Muslims, alt-righters, anti-abortion bombers, etc.

    Inner city gang culture as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Run Lift Train View Post
    I’m cool with calling all extremist ideologies violent. Muslims, alt-righters, anti-abortion bombers, etc.
    Are all Muslims violent? I ask, because my neighbor is a Muslim... should I be worried?

  9. #69
    what in the hell do any of you plan to do to stop it?


    oh, i got it, start plucking the letters off your keyboard so you can throw them at alt righters! that'll teach them
    No sense crying over spilt beer, unless you're drunk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livnthedream View Post
    No, I think you are ignorant to the point of stupidity if you think that manifesto was real. The entire thing was written as soundbites for the media to echo far and wide. He even says as much in the damn thing.

    As I said before, read it, then watch the actual livestream. No one puts as much thought into this as that guy did, and then performs as poorly as they did when it comes time. And that is without even going into the problems with the logic in the manifesto itself.
    It definitely is real and is the product of conservative rhetoric and delusion echoed by some of most powerful politicians in the US and Australia. Look at what an Australian senator just said moments ago about Islamic followers and immigration. The only difference between the shooter and the politican is that the shooter actually executed conservative rhetoric.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Whens the last time you even heard them in the news? Theyre so irrelevant this thread isnt needed.
    Just today, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargulf the Happy Husky View Post
    what in the hell do any of you plan to do to stop it?


    oh, i got it, start plucking the letters off your keyboard so you can throw them at alt righters! that'll teach them
    The same thing liberals and progressives did in against Nazis and all conservative rule, fight back and win.
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargulf the Happy Husky View Post
    what in the hell do any of you plan to do to stop it?


    oh, i got it, start plucking the letters off your keyboard so you can throw them at alt righters! that'll teach them
    It's just a bunch of impotent little boys on the internet who will never do anything lol. Fighting the good fight! Online, never actually accomplishing anything constructive in regards to what they see as the great enemy.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    It's clear by now that the Alt-Right is in essence a violent extremist movement. Clearly not every member or sympathizer will commit a violent act, but the movement as a whole reached a point where it has globally caused enough fatalities that it can be considered a serious threat.

    Its "luminaries" like Sargon of Akkad, Black Pigeon, Joseph Watson, Stephan Molyneux and ideological founders like Steve Bannon and Richard Spencer have hidden behind "free speech" enough.

    We shut down Islamic rabble rousers like Anjem Choudary, it's time we shut down people like the ones I mentioned above. Platforms like Youtube, Twitter, Facebook need to clean up their act and crack down on this content the same as they do with those spreading other forms of extremist ideologies.

    Enough is enough. "The Great Replacement" and other rubbish talking points like that might not outright call for violence, but do the legwork for the radicalization of those willing to commit acts of violence.

    **Any Mod reading this, please could you fix the title of the thread? -It is time...**
    You couldn't be any more wrong. Sargon is an english liberal, Molyneux is a libertarian and Spencer is a white nationalist. You couldn't pick people with any more diverse politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Stefan Molyneux is, if anything, an even bigger Nazi than Spencer. Y'all really can't help yourselves defending these fuckers, eh? I wonder why
    Citation needed.

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    Oh look, it's another leftist fear mongering trash thread. Just a friendly reminder that your ideology killed literally dozens of million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Comparing Sargon of Akkad, Black Pigeon, Joseph Watson, Stephan Molyneux and even Steve Bannon to people like Richard Spencer, is precisely what makes people think your arguments hold Zero weight. Since you lump a bunch of people into a category and say "LOOK THEY ARE ALL PART OF THE SAME THING" when you know full well they aren't.

    Inane comparisons like this is always hypocritical because the exact same people that lump all these Guys together with actual Neo-Nazis and Psychos is the exact same thing you argue against when you say you shouldn't judge other huge groups by what a few do.

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    Sometimes I don't think they understand how even Real Life works.
    They have all peddled the same islamophobia and white genocide bullshit theories. These theories are the bedrock of the current far right, and of the shooter in new Zealand. There is absolutely no defending any of them unless you want to be seen as a fascist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Just today, you mean?
    And that would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    You couldn't be any more wrong. Sargon is an english liberal, Molyneux is a libertarian and Spencer is a white nationalist. You couldn't pick people with any more diverse politics.

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    Citation needed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BvaJhwAl4E

    He seems to sure love white nationalism...

    And that goes directly against principles of libertarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athredas View Post
    Oh look, it's another leftist fear mongering trash thread. Just a friendly reminder that your ideology killed literally dozens of million.
    How would you know? You are brand new here.

    Maybe you could provide a link to all those other threads about which you are speaking.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    It definitely is real and is the product of conservative rhetoric and delusion echoed by some of most powerful politicians in the US and Australia. Look at what an Australian senator just said moments ago about Islamic followers and immigration. The only difference between the shooter and the politican is that the shooter actually executed conservative rhetoric.
    Yep, you are nuts. Not sure if blinded by bubble or just flat out trolling. <>
    Unreason and anti-intellectualism abominate thought. Thinking implies disagreement; and disagreement implies nonconformity; and nonconformity implies heresy; and heresy implies disloyalty — so, obviously, thinking must be stopped. But shouting is not a substitute for thinking and reason is not the subversion but the salvation of freedom. - Adlai Stevenson

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    Todays events are exactly why in the UK people like Tommy Robinson have been banned from social media platforms. People peddling hate and violence should be behind bars, it doesn't matter where they are from, what colour their skin is. Hate is hate and terror is terror. Anyone arguing against that belongs there too.

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