Yes i do, after one week ago they were portrayed that way.
See, what happened in the last episode is what i imagined a dragon would look like in battle. It's what the books told us too. But last week we saw how 3 hits easily kill a dragon.
Now all the scorpions are just instantly annihilated. That's bad writing. Yes. I would have had no problems with it, if it wasn't for last weeks
Another thing that crossed my mind: Her father was ultimately killed because he stored wildfire everywhere in KL and wanted to ignite it. Now his daugther burned down the city and also ignited the wildfire her father has planted.
Yeah she had reasons, and she took what was hers by right, by any means necessary. The same as her father...
All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
You're saying the worst mass murderers of history were cartoonish? Cartoonish, as I interpret it, means unrealistic, are you saying what you mean to here? Thanks for explaining that it's possible to stop killing people? My best policy is to never start, but I'm also not a fictional dragon-riding queen who believes she is destined to rule a continent.
The rationale she lays out is insane, no question about it, the problem is it builds from pre-established places. Tyrion does push back, really hard, and does everything he can to give her reasons not to do it. He's been doing this for a while with her character but has fallen too far out of favor to have enough effect. As Daenerys makes clear though, if he pushes back too hard he'll be killed.
Can't speak to the bells thing, to me it was just a way of trying to draw an arrow for the audience "important moment here" and "this moment connects to that conversation we hope you remember." Not a lot of subtlety left in the series.
You say she's won the battle, and okay, but she's not just fighting a battle, she's trying to rule the continent, and that means more than just technically occupying the throne. Rule requires consent - including the now-thankfully-illegal kind of coercive consent granted by saying something like, "I will burn you and all your people if you don't do what I tell you." (Mostly, IRS still basically works off of this). You need people to accept your power over them in some way, Daenerys boils it down to "love or fear" in the episode I think. Meanwhile, her rage and paranoia are at peak, for some good reasons. She has lots of proof that this land she thinks she is destined to rule is populated by those who don't want her there. Even the people she trusts from Westeros, she can't seem to really trust. From what I see laid out in the episode, she wants to send a message to anyone who seeks to oppose her. Rule by fear or love, she chooses fear, and really she's correct to if what she wants is power. Even the guy who loves her can't love her, how is she supposed to win over a whole people? Okay okay it doesn't really work like that, but the point is there are lots of signs telling her she's only going to wield power if she makes people afraid of her. Not sure how the writers can say the thought never occurred to her when she's just shy of openly saying she wants to burn the city; but to me her turn seems more like something Martin would have planned than they would have come up with. Hopefully we get to find out!
Maybe it's not clear but I'm a pacifist, hate violence, hate that people use fear to dominate others. It's been used throughout history, as have barbaric shows of force, to compel people to submit. I am deeply grateful to live in a time where this is not as common. Daenreys was always a great example of the kind of person who is willing to do this.
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I don't view Dany burning the city as "Dany going mad". For many seasons, we have been told that Dany has no love in Westeros. No one knows who she is, no one wants her to rule them. Jorah has been telling her this from the start. Now that Jon turned out to be the true heir, she has told him that if the world finds out, she will not get the throne - because she is not loved. Right before the battle, she gives Jon a chance to rule with her, together as King and Queen. But he don't want her now that he knows they're related. So she says to him "Fear it is, then". When King's Landing surrenders, she can't allow it because she won't be able to rule on mercy and love - it has to be fear. She has to murder thousands so millions fear her. Whether she does this for lust for power or with twisted Thanosy logic, I don't know. That's the real discussion to be had I think.
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It seems that Film Theory's video on "Mad Queen Dany" was right all along.
And it also doesn't help that writing is utter shit, with writers deliberately taking a dump all over the plotlines they've been establishing for years, only to give us 3 minutes long throw-away scenes, if at all. At least the action is good and the production quality is obviously through the roof, but these are the only reasons for me to watch it.
the people in westeros, lanisters.
not only that they betrayed her by not sending support north they even killed one of the dragons and her best friend and advisor, plus they had the option to surrender and she went full mongol on them (innocents getting killed is not right i know but in every war they are collateral damage and no one forced them to go in the city as far as i know).
They were not collateral damage and she was not mad nor angry. She decided that if she show them mercy they will never fear her, and like she said to Jon: "Fear it is, then". She has to murder thousands so millions will fear her, otherwise they will never accept her as their ruler.
Yeah was going to comment this earlier but I'm starting to get pissed off at the shitty writing this season and don't want to ruminate on it. Ridiculous scene that served no real purpose.
I also liked Jamie and Ceraei's ending, felt appropriate and Shakespeare-esque despite the fact that as mentioned Jamie should have died off long ago.
Also agree with your point #3 but imo that surprise attack with three perfect shots never should have happened to begin with.