Insignificant systems revitalized

[Vorkreist]

Do you not understand what an opinion is? How is it an opinion that it's hard to make gold, you literally just quest and vendor everything you don't need, if you get a good green item you put it on the AH. Professions are also very profitable, especially right now. That isn't an opinion, that's very factual. Gaining 5 agility and 10 armor from a new piece of gear isn't a big upgrade, that isn't an opinion, those are just the numbers. Gaining 10% armor on your pet is not a noticeable talent upgrade, that is not an opinion.

You must be a Republican. "Vaccines cause autism, it's your opinion if you think they don't." "The Earth isn't round, that's just your opinion, it's obviously flat."... Sounds exactly like you.

You are talking so far out of your ass. You are just trolling at this point.
So listing the activities where you can make some gold = hey guys its easy!!! Oh look some mobs drop 6 silver !!! Its easy just grind lol. EZ
You can put random crap on the auction house and maybe someone buys your 50 silver green. EZ SEEE I TOLD YOU ITS EASY
Hey talents are bad because theres one for 10% pet armor so my arguments are just pure facts!! I dislike the talent system and I can't understand why others find satisfaction in it. Facts man!

Go back to school and learn the difference between facts and opinions or better as previously advised go troll on your shitty Bfa section.

You are more in line with that level of intelligence of antivaxers and flat earthers unfortunately.

[Rucati]

You are talking so far out of your ass. You are just trolling at this point.
So listing the activities where you can make some gold = hey guys its easy!!! Oh look some mobs drop 6 silver !!! Its easy just grind lol. EZ
You can put random crap on the auction house and maybe someone buys your 50 silver green. EZ SEEE I TOLD YOU ITS EASY
Hey talents are bad because theres one for 10% pet armor so my arguments are just pure facts!! I dislike the talent system and I can't understand why others find satisfaction in it. Facts man!

Go back to school and learn the difference between facts and opinions or better as previously advised go troll on your shitty Bfa section.

You are more in line with that level of intelligence of antivaxers and flat earthers unfortunately.

It's incredibly easy. Not my fault you're too dumb to understand. Sure if you put garbage greens on the AH they won't sell, but if you know what you're doing a lot of them sell for a few gold each past around level 45, the problem is most people just vendor them because they figure the AH is too much work. And learning how to make gold with professions requires actually doing math to see how to make profit, and most people are unable to do that apparently.

Talents are bad because over half of them are equally as useless as 10% pet armor, that just happened to be an example. But I guess you needed to purposely miss my point or else you'd have been proven wrong already.

Life must be very hard for you. I feel kind of bad. I mean if making gold in classic is hard I can't even fathom how hard you must think making money in real life is. Though I guess since you still live with mom and dad you probably don't have to make any money yet.

[Kookster]

Wow that's literally all you can say. Really pathetic, I wonder how you've managed to make it through life so far when all you can respond with is "You're wrong because I say so"... Guessing you're either 12 years old or you're such a narcissist you literally have no friends. Either way I hope your life improves.

Nice, i'm very close to get you there where i wanted you to be Just a little bit more and everyone notice it. So let's move on;

How is your lv 24 Hunter? You said earlier you've gonna stop soon @ classic. Which server you are? I'd take those 40 gold before you're leaving! PM if you're a good boy. Wuff wuff

[Rucati]

Nice, i'm very close to get you there where i wanted you to be Just a little bit more and everyone notice it. So let's move on;

How is your lv 24 Hunter? You said earlier you've gonna stop soon @ classic. Which server you are? I'd take those 40 gold before you're leaving! PM if you're a good boy. Wuff wuff

It's sad you think you're accomplishing something.

And I'm playing with like 5 friends, I can assure you the gold will go to them, although it sounds like you might need it more since you're apparently retarded and can't figure out how to make gold.

[khalltusk]

It's incredibly easy. Not my fault you're too dumb to understand. Sure if you put garbage greens on the AH they won't sell, but if you know what you're doing a lot of them sell for a few gold each past around level 45, the problem is most people just vendor them because they figure the AH is too much work. And learning how to make gold with professions requires actually doing math to see how to make profit, and most people are unable to do that apparently.

Talents are bad because over half of them are equally as useless as 10% pet armor, that just happened to be an example. But I guess you needed to purposely miss my point or else you'd have been proven wrong already.

Life must be very hard for you. I feel kind of bad. I mean if making gold in classic is hard I can't even fathom how hard you must think making money in real life is. Though I guess since you still live with mom and dad you probably don't have to make any money yet.

I am on nearly 18 gold now, I stopped playing the AH at level 12 as I was selling all my copper bars but now I am stock piling them (going to level engineering for the repair bot!).

I only buy skills I really need. So I am saving a load of cash. I sell everything I get to vendor. I only repair gear before a dungeon or if its about to break. Some guildies have harder times making gold but for the most part its pretty easy. I was just bad at the game when I first played and wasted gold on silly things.

FYI level 29 and aiming for some dungeon runs this weekend

[Vorkreist]

It's incredibly easy. Not my fault you're too dumb to understand. Sure if you put garbage greens on the AH they won't sell, but if you know what you're doing a lot of them sell for a few gold each past around level 45, the problem is most people just vendor them because they figure the AH is too much work. And learning how to make gold with professions requires actually doing math to see how to make profit, and most people are unable to do that apparently.

Talents are bad because over half of them are equally as useless as 10% pet armor, that just happened to be an example. But I guess you needed to purposely miss my point or else you'd have been proven wrong already.

Life must be very hard for you. I feel kind of bad. I mean if making gold in classic is hard I can't even fathom how hard you must think making money in real life is. Though I guess since you still live with mom and dad you probably don't have to make any money yet.

Just trolling and childish insults. Thanks for coming out of the closet.

Infracted {MoanaLisa}

[Mikah]

At no point did I say that was only from vendoring stuff, what are you talking about?

Yes you did:

Getting 100g by 40 for your mount is insanely easy by just vendoring everything you can't use and not learning your useless skills.

[Ghostile]

Just trolling and childish insults. Thanks for coming out of the closet.

Imagine throwing around lines like "You are more in line with that level of intelligence of antivaxers and flat earthers unfortunately." and "now you can go back to that special needs retail."

And then going all bitchy when someone calls you dumb.

[Shaetha]

there is call of duty for the people like you that dont like the elemetns of an RPG


spawn , choose class , kill




most of those things should be normal for an mmorpg ... gear , class skills , stuff like making poisons

It's funny you mention CoD because it still has more RPG elements than the original RPG video games.

[Rucati]

I am on nearly 18 gold now, I stopped playing the AH at level 12 as I was selling all my copper bars but now I am stock piling them (going to level engineering for the repair bot!).

I only buy skills I really need. So I am saving a load of cash. I sell everything I get to vendor. I only repair gear before a dungeon or if its about to break. Some guildies have harder times making gold but for the most part its pretty easy. I was just bad at the game when I first played and wasted gold on silly things.

FYI level 29 and aiming for some dungeon runs this weekend

Not repairing when you don't need to is important as well, I forgot to mention that. You usually replace gear before you need to repair it while leveling so it's a waste of gold most of the time. So many people waste gold on stuff for no reason then wonder why they don't have.

Just trolling and childish insults. Thanks for coming out of the closet.

I mean you ignore facts and make things up to prove your point. Why would I continue explaining the same thing over and over to you? You're either too dumb to understand or purposefully ignoring anything you don't like to hear. Not really worth trying to debate with you either way.

Yes you did:

Did you pass third grade reading comprehension? I said you can get 100g by 40 if all you do is vendor things and don't train useless skills. I then said I had 40g at level 24. Those two statements have literally nothing to do with each other, they are completely unrelated. I'm genuinely shocked I have to explain this to you because it seems really obvious.

[Rendark]

You are in the wrong forum troll.

So not liking something makes me a troll?

[DJ117]

Honestly I disagree with almost everything on this list. It's almost all meaningless and irrelevant to the actual game.

1) Gold. Gold really isn't a problem, half the skills you can learn are useless and skipping them has no negative impact on leveling whatsoever. Getting 100g by 40 for your mount is insanely easy by just vendoring everything you can't use and not learning your useless skills.

2) Gear rewards are rare but they also hardly matter, the difference between 10 agility and 15 agility isn't even going to be noticeable.

3) (Skipped 3??)

4) Yeah that 1% spirit really made me feel a tiny bit stronger, except no it was actually meaningless. Oh boy my pet got 10% armor, I'm sure I'll really notice getting a tiny bit stronger there. Classic talents are garbage because they have no impact on anything.

5) I guess? It's not really different than exploring on a mount except it takes longer. Pretty sure I spend at least 50% of the time in classic looking at my other monitor anyway because I'm just auto running for 5 minutes in between quests.

6) Could be because I play a Hunter but I haven't felt the need to group for anything other than one shit escort mission in Darkshore, and honestly if I had waited a level or two I'd have been able to solo it I just wanted to move on from that zone.

7) Pretty sure I've never done this and I don't know why anyone would, it's unlikely anyone is going to die anyway unless they aren't paying attention and aggro more mobs or just go AFK.

8) Not really sure what you mean. Just that quest items don't sparkle? I haven't really noticed honestly, they're almost always big enough to be noticeable whether they sparkle or not.

9) The quest log isn't bad, other than the times where it doesn't really tell you anything. Personally though I'm just using an addon to walk me through the quests anyway because the game is tedious enough without me having to read every quest I want to do.

10) Haven't done any dungeons in classic, don't really plan to. I guess it's nice that you have to spend 30 minutes spamming chat to find a group, then another 10 minutes running to the dungeon though.


So yeah... Out of those 9 systems there's maybe 2 that have value. Not a very good ratio honestly.

You just seem like a person that is annoyed by everything and that also has a bad day every day. I can’t take your opinion on the matter seriously because all your negativity you are still playing.

[XDurionX]

This is basically the start of a season. Wait four weeks and nobody cares anymore.

[Rucati]

You just seem like a person that is annoyed by everything and that also has a bad day every day. I can’t take your opinion on the matter seriously because all your negativity you are still playing.

Probably because a handful of negative things doesn't make the game bad, despite popular belief. And a lot of those things aren't even negatives. Gold making being easy is fine, gear is fine in classic, talents are kinda boring but they're fine, like those things aren't particularly bad. They're just kinda whatever.

[DJ117]

Probably because a handful of negative things doesn't make the game bad, despite popular belief. And a lot of those things aren't even negatives. Gold making being easy is fine, gear is fine in classic, talents are kinda boring but they're fine, like those things aren't particularly bad. They're just kinda whatever.

Then you should state what you like about it.

[Babadoo]

Except the majority of what I wrote isn't an opinion. Gold isn't hard to make. Gear isn't that big of an upgrade 90% of the time. Talents are unnoticeable garbage. Like none of that is opinion, it's all completely factual. Just because you're shit at making gold doesn't mean it's hard. Just because you think gear is super valuable while leveling up because you don't replace your shit for 30 levels doesn't mean that everyone does that, any player with half a brain replaces most of their gear pretty quickly by doing the proper quests and buying upgrades when necessary.

Sure, I guess you could say that not helping someone is my opinion because I don't feel the need to help trash players, but over half of those things aren't opinions and can't really be debated.



Wow that's literally all you can say. Really pathetic, I wonder how you've managed to make it through life so far when all you can respond with is "You're wrong because I say so"... Guessing you're either 12 years old or you're such a narcissist you literally have no friends. Either way I hope your life improves.

Go back to retail pillock. This game is not for you.

[Rucati]

Go back to retail pillock. This game is not for you.

Wow you really did a good job of explaining why you disagree with me. I bet that works really well on the playground in your middle school.

[Charge me Doctor]

This is my favorite part of Classic. All the systems that are insignificant during leveling in retail matter again. Now I am not saying they are completely not there but rather their importance is magnified in Classic. Here are a few off the top of my head in no particular order:

1. Gold
-Often times I cannot even pay for all of my skills. This places a heavy importance on currency in the game and it's awesome having to really be frugal to
try and get that next skill

...How? Mob grind while doing quests provides you with more than enough money to buy all your abilities and get a mount ~45 level. Maybe you just don't loot or throw away gray stuff or spend too much money on auction for stuff you don't need? I'll never understand those "i can't afford my skills" people, but i really want to.

- - - Updated - - -

Try leveling a fresh character without sending gold, bags, heirlooms and all that to your fresh character and compare then.

I mean, after initial hype for heilrooms burned out i sent them back to my main and parked them in a bank, because i didn't felt like doing 1/4th of quests in a location and going "gosh darn it everything gray now!". Yeah, but those things people complain about on retail (heirlooms (which leads to "i am overpowered" and "professions are useless"), dungeon spam, level 1 or 20 mount, having all flight paths open, not having to spam chat to find people for a dungeon and not having to run to the entrance) are completely optional, you can play without heirlooms, you can opt out of using green quest rewards, you can grab a profession and use only green/blue/purple drops/crafts and blue/purple quest rewards, you can walk to dungeon entrance and then queue (or you can spam chat for people to walk to a dungeon with and do it without LFG).

[Arkthugal]

7. Helping someone not die with no benefit whatsoever to me other than being helpful

You can do this in retail. In fact, retail encourages it more, because shared tap is a thing so you actually DO get some benefit from it.

[Charge me Doctor]

Honestly I disagree with almost everything on this list. It's almost all meaningless and irrelevant to the actual game.

1) Gold. Gold really isn't a problem, half the skills you can learn are useless and skipping them has no negative impact on leveling whatsoever. Getting 100g by 40 for your mount is insanely easy by just vendoring everything you can't use and not learning your useless skills.

If i'd didn't learn teleports and most skills like dampen/amplify magic, scorch, frostbolt, blizzard, upper ranks of frost nova, etc that i don't even use i'd definitely had more than 100g at level 40. But fun thing is that you don't even need 100g at level 40 to get your mount, it's more like 80 or 90.