9.0 General Discussion

[Rune B]

At least they released dire maul early so the kids that are usually around here to tell us that retail is dead and all that stuff are busy crafting ogre suits.

The new Shadowlands leak is confirmed as coming from the Blizzard gear store, so that essentially confirms that.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Which brings up the question of what they're doing in WoW to begin with.

They probably are ok with it or aren't really paying attention and truthfully I agree technology shouldn't be in a fantasy setting but in some way... I've been ok with it in Warcraft.

[Sondrelk]

That is literally the story for every single Legion and BFA leveling zone.

Think about it this way then?
Why not make an entire expansion set entirely in Suramar? Visually you could make it the most interesting expansion we have seen, but being in a single city the entire expansion would get draining after a while when all the zones deal with the same problem just masked slightly differently.

[FlemmMinis]

I also dreaded a "grey" Shadowlands much like when the player is dead making their way back to their body. But I think there are plenty of death themes to choose from, from cultures all around the world.

"Bastion" in the Shadowlands sounds like it might be the starting off point for both Horde and Alliance, and a neutral city from which we'll operate.

Bastion looks very "Elysian", sort of like Greek folklore. Perhaps that is where the "honored dead" or "happy dead" are or something. And then the other dead souls are in other zones resembling other, probably darker forms. And some sort of balance is maintained, between heaven and hell.

Perhaps we're actually headed for a "war in heaven" ala Diablo.

Greek you say?

[FlubberPuddy]

Which brings up the question of what they're doing in WoW to begin with.

WoW is still like 90% traditional fantasy. Blizzard I believe even re-affirmed they're not gonna get too space-y (aka sci-fi aka tech-heavy)

[Renley]

That is literally the story for every single Legion and BFA leveling zone.

Yeah, this. Plus, we know almost nothing about the Shadowlands. We don't know what kind of realm it is. Is it actually full of ghosts? Is it some hidden realm where life flourishes, and is a gateway? What races potentially live there? etc.

[HailArthas]

This calls for exterminatus

Come then you heroes. Come then in all your power and glory. For in the final hour, all must serve, the one, true, queen.

[Blayze]

Perhaps we're actually headed for a "war in heaven" ala Diablo.

We've got so many different entities claiming dominion over death that I think we'll get each zone having a couple of them duking it out.

[Renley]

So the overarching theme of the expansion is death, and then the overarching theme of the continent is death, and so is the theme of each individual zone.

Thematic variance is not the same as visual variance.
Visually you can make as many zones as you want and have them be visually distinct, but in the end each zone would be about the same thing, it would just look different in each zone.

Northrend, Outland, and Pandaria all had the same theme, and yet full continents were made with ease, with variety of themes and visual differences.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I also dreaded a "grey" Shadowlands much like when the player is dead making their way back to their body. But I think there are plenty of death themes to choose from, from cultures all around the world.

"Bastion" in the Shadowlands sounds like it might be the starting off point for both Horde and Alliance, and a neutral city from which we'll operate.

Bastion looks very "Elysian", sort of like Greek folklore. Perhaps that is where the "honored dead" or "happy dead" are or something. And then the other dead souls are in other zones resembling other, probably darker forms. And some sort of balance is maintained, between heaven and hell.

Perhaps we're actually headed for a "war in heaven" ala Diablo.

There's a lot pointing toward a "war in heaven" theme. Heck the groundwork for it was lain way back in Legion with an offhanded mention that Odyn saw life in the Shadowlands alongside death.

I just hope it's not one happy zone and then skulls and grey everywhere else. There's a lot of death to choose from, and we know Blizzard loves their continents full of illogically varied biomes.

[Chickat]

I take back how I tried to defend the wowhead comments earlier... now they are saying it might not even be the bolvar in the picture...

Its Anduin.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Its Anduin.

It's clearly LAVAMAN.

[ercarp]

They probably are ok with it or aren't really paying attention and truthfully I agree technology shouldn't be in a fantasy setting but in some way... I've been ok with it in Warcraft.

Technology has been a part of the Warcraft universe since WC3. Possibly earlier.

Not to mention the very first expansion of the game took us into space with tentacle aliens that flew spaceships.

People who act like technology and sci-fi elements haven't been a part of the Warcraft universe haven't been paying all that much attention from the looks of it.

[ro9ue]

What's up with this tweet from Towelliee? Is he just being cryptic? What does it mean

https://twitter.com/towelthetank/sta...09369134665729

Probably that leak is fake. The logo there doesn't look anything like hte legit one.

I think a lot of people just guessed Shadowlands correctly and used it for fakes.

[Feali]

Set up my laptop in the kitchen. Now I can cook while being hyped

[FlemmMinis]

it's clearly lavaman.

lavaman and the masters of the shadowlands

[Sondrelk]

Northrend, Outland, and Pandaria all had the same theme, and yet full continents were made with ease, with variety of themes and visual differences.

Try and think for a moment why the example i gave above of an entire expansion set entirely in Suramar wouldnt work, and the answer might just come to you.


If that doesnt convince you, i can always pull out the argument of Blizzard having showed the Emerald Dream aside despite it having just as much potential as the Shadowlands.

[Wangming]

is this sparta?

this is pandariaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[Gloriandus]

There's a lot pointing toward a "war in heaven" theme.

Bastion, Bastion's Keep

Sanctuary and Azeroth in same universe CONFIRMED

[Raetary]

Greek you say?

Yes.
Greek.

Incredibly good looking gods.
Very interesting mythology.
life-like white marble statues (fun fact: they were actually painted)
Gyros.
Lots of water.