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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Again, citations?
    https://www.politifact.com/personali...yruling/false/

    Hmm... I wonder which one he was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    How does Trumping being a liar matter? They both can't be telling the truth.
    It's pure diversion. When faced with facts they find unpleasant, they immediately divert to whataboutism. Low resolution thinking ftl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    It's pure diversion. When faced with facts they find unpleasant, they immediately divert to whataboutism. Low resolution thinking ftl.
    Nah, it just shows you have no problem with people lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Nah, it just shows you have no problem with people lying.
    Whataboutism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    That is not what whataboutism is, but hey, nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    https://www.politifact.com/personali...yruling/false/

    Hmm... I wonder which one he was talking about.
    For me, not for Trump. Trump says a lot of cringe inducing wild shit. I personally don't comment on it for a variety of reasons. One, I've long understood Trumps political strategy is IRL Internet Trolling and attention whoring. Two, seeing that people for whom Donald Trump and every fart the man makes is their serial obsession and what that obsession has done to peoples personalities and mental states.... I say "Hell no" and prefer to just ignore Trump in favor of you know substantive and interesting ideas as well only paying attention when it rises to a significant degree like the warmongering for Iran or constant Israel shilling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    That is not what whataboutism is, but hey, nice try.
    Yeah, you're right...Wikipedia doesn't know what they're talking about. *rollseyes*
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Yeah, you're right...Wikipedia doesn't know what they're talking about. *rollseyes*
    Its not wikipedia that is wrong, you are. People pulling about your other opinions is not whataboutism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Yeah, you're right...Wikipedia doesn't know what they're talking about. *rollseyes*
    Wikipedia even says they're not a reliable source of information.

    Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. Biographies of living persons, subjects that happen to be in the news, and politically or culturally contentious topics are especially vulnerable to these issues. Edits on Wikipedia that are in error may eventually be fixed. However, because Wikipedia is a volunteer-run project, it cannot monitor every contribution all the time. There are many errors that remain unnoticed for days, weeks, months, or even years. Therefore, Wikipedia should not be considered a definitive source in and of itself.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe...eliable_source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobb View Post
    Wikipedia even says they're not a reliable source of information.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe...eliable_source
    Well there you have it! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Its not wikipedia that is wrong, you are. People pulling about your other opinions is not whataboutism.
    Apparently you have a conflicting definition of whataboutism...please do share.
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    Has any galaxy brained politicos written in defense of Judas Iscariot Warren that she was merely saying "Her Truth" yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Has any galaxy brained politicos written in defense of Judas Iscariot Warren that she was merely saying "Her Truth" yet?
    I casually liked Warren before I knew more about her. But all her lies during this campaign are really stacking up.

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    Pretty telling as to exactly how "deep" this supposed feud runs when the people stoking it are a mix of brocialists and right wing concern trolls.

    Y'all clearly don't remember 2008 if you think this is vicious.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Has any galaxy brained politicos written in defense of Judas Iscariot Warren that she was merely saying "Her Truth" yet?
    I personally believe that she misunderstood what Bernie was saying. IMO there's no way Bernie would ever say such a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurinaux View Post
    I'd consider Warren a progressive neoliberal. She's not very outspoken about it, however.

    The fact that she rants about current trade policy doesn't take her neo-liberalism away, it earns her the progressive label. She still wants to expand international markets, she just wants to enforce trade policy that elevates standards of living globally while including all the economic players beyond multinational corporations.
    Wanting more access to other markets is hardly a neoliberal position. The label these days means whatever I don't like so I just poke fun at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Pretty telling as to exactly how "deep" this supposed feud runs when the people stoking it are a mix of brocialists and right wing concern trolls.

    Y'all clearly don't remember 2008 if you think this is vicious.
    seems to be a manufactured "feud" in hopes of dividing progressives once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Wanting more access to other markets is hardly a neoliberal position. The label these days means whatever I don't like so I just poke fun at it
    Yep. Warren's positions fall squarely in the realm of Keynesian capitalist - that is not neoliberal by any stretch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starlord View Post
    seems to be a manufactured "feud" in hopes of dividing progressives once again.
    It is. They disagree on some things, but largely they're in overwhelming agreement and have resisted the media attempts to start a feud until recently.

    Media want a fight. It makes for easy headlines and tons of clicks. I'm legit surprised we don't have moderators during debates jumping on the tables with their phones held high screaming "WORLD SSSSSTTTTTTTAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" every time they try to get them into a verbal fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Pretty telling as to exactly how "deep" this supposed feud runs when the people stoking it are a mix of brocialists and right wing concern trolls.

    Y'all clearly don't remember 2008 if you think this is vicious.
    It's 8d chess plot to clear the field for Biden.


    I miss the simpler times when these guys all just followed Ron Paul.

    Even since he retired they atomized into those two groups.

    Kinda how white nationalists and al Qaeda also atomized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It is. They disagree on some things, but largely they're in overwhelming agreement and have resisted the media attempts to start a feud until recently.

    Media want a fight. It makes for easy headlines and tons of clicks. I'm legit surprised we don't have moderators during debates jumping on the tables with their phones held high screaming "WORLD SSSSSTTTTTTTAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" every time they try to get them into a verbal fight.
    CNN is as much to blame for Trumpism as Fox News, honestly. Without CNN we wouldn't have the 24 hour news cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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