Michael Avenatti, The Hero We Need or The Hero We Deserve?

[Orbitus]

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is the Trumpshitshow thread and this is about Avenatti. I mean you can keep cross posting your hatred, it means nothing, everyone on here with a few exceptions has a fascination with Trump and a hatred that knows no bounds....but you could post about the actual topic...maybe? I know it is hard for you to go any thread without mentioning Trump. And wouldn't that make you a Trumpkin/Trumpster? I forget what you guys like to call each other. It doesn't matter, mods only infract who they want to get them banned on threads because...censorship. I see lots of conspiracy theories just thrown about and trolling, but if I do it, I get banned. They pick and choose, hell Endus intentionally reported another person he was arguing with just to get them banned knowing he would not.

I once pissed off flairlane so bad he infracted me once, and it wasn't enough to ban me, so he infracted me a second time for the same post.....just so he could ban me. The first was 5 points and for good measure infracted me another 4. I am sure I will get banned for talking about it...I mean , why wouldn't he double infract me again?

I will take "something that doesn't happen for $1000", Alex.

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My favorite part of the Trump brigade celebrating Avenatti going to prison for attempted extortion where he didn't get anything out of it is they just spent months defending Trump's attempted extortion because Trump didn't get anything out of it.

Don't worry, it isn't illegal when Trump does it. But if an ordinary citizen, even a high profile one like Avenatti does it, it means it is illegal.

[derpkitteh]

My favorite part of the Trump brigade celebrating Avenatti going to prison for attempted extortion where he didn't get anything out of it is they just spent months defending Trump's attempted extortion because Trump didn't get anything out of it.

i would say this isn't comparable. extorting a foreign country shouldn't mean anything in american law. america first, before all others, is what we should be focusing on.

but idk how anyone ever thought he'd be a serious dem candidate. i mean, i guess he was basically pre-2016 trump, only a wife-beater instead of just a vag-grabber. so maybe he would have had a chance for all of this.

[szechuan]

extorting a foreign country shouldn't mean anything in american law. america first, before all others, is what we should be focusing on.

You would be okay if Presidents extorted foreign countries to hack Americans?

[derpkitteh]

You would be okay if Presidents extorted foreign countries to hack Americans?

that's not what was done, so it's not really relevant.

but telling someone to talk shit about someone else and you'll give the aid they need? eh, i don't care.

[szechuan]

that's not what was done, so it's not really relevant.

Trump still asked foreign countries to hack Americans "for" Americans.

but telling someone to talk shit about someone else and you'll give the aid they need? eh, i don't care.

It wasn't about talking shit. It was about Looking up Dirt on Americans.

You would be okay with Foreign Governments Hacking Americans?

[derpkitteh]

Trump still asked foreign countries to hack Americans "for" Americans.


It wasn't about talking shit. It was about Looking up Dirt on Americans.

You would be okay with Foreign Governments Hacking Americans?

repeating the same question doesn't make it more relevant. that's not what was done. it was effectively just talking shit about someone. do a little internal investigation and release what you learn to the public.

hacking's different, but that shit you're probably trying to bring up was just a joke on the campaign trail. "russia, if you're listening" it was said exactly like when someone makes jokes about god/ghosts/whatever "if you're listening, throw a chair", it was a joke to mock the idea that russia was trying to hack or whatever.

[szechuan]

repeating the same question doesn't make it more relevant. that's not what was done. it was effectively just talking shit about someone. do a little internal investigation and release what you learn to the public.

It wasn't an Internal Investigation whatsoever, if it was he Wouldn't be in Trouble whatsoever.

hacking's different, but that shit you're probably trying to bring up was just a joke on the campaign trail.

How do you if he was Joking? He just invited a country to openly investigate Americans.

[derpkitteh]

It wasn't an Internal Investigation whatsoever, if it was he Wouldn't be in Trouble whatsoever.



But The American Government asking a Foreign Government to look up Info on Americans for MILLIONS to BILLIONS of Dollars which others can use to Extort others is fine?

it would have been an internal investigation, by ukraine, in ukraine.

if it's info on an american citizen that was doing something in the country being asked, info that's within their foreign country to be looked at, yes. i'm fine with that. which is what happened. though the investigation never happened, and the money was given anyway.

[szechuan]

it would have been an internal investigation, by ukraine, in ukraine.

if it's info on an american citizen that was doing something in the country being asked, info that's within their foreign country to be looked at, yes. i'm fine with that. which is what happened. though the investigation never happened, and the money was given anyway.

Trump was clearly asking for more then that, Trump was also asking for a "Server" filled with Compromised Information on American Citizens.

hacking's different, but that shit you're probably trying to bring up was just a joke on the campaign trail.

How do you if he was Joking? He just invited a country to openly investigate Americans for his own benefit.

[derpkitteh]

How do you if he was Joking? He just invited a country to openly investigate Americans for his own benefit.

any normal, functioning person with the ability to detect humor, general social cues, and a lack of a desire to push an agenda for gain would understand it was a joke.

[szechuan]

any normal, functioning person with the ability to detect humor, general social cues, and a lack of a desire to push an agenda for gain would understand it was a joke.

Yet Trump just got away with extorting Foreign Governments for "Hacked" Information on American Citizens where he invited a country to investigate Americans for his own benefit.

[Orbitus]

it would have been an internal investigation, by ukraine, in ukraine.

if it's info on an american citizen that was doing something in the country being asked, info that's within their foreign country to be looked at, yes. i'm fine with that. which is what happened. though the investigation never happened, and the money was given anyway.

If Trump wanted a real investigation, he should have asked the State Department or the DoJ to do it right, instead of breaking the fucking law to extort Ukraine to make up bullshit on Biden that isn't there. The fact that he used someone that isn't a fucking government employee to do the investigation, means it is tainted and NOTHING that Guiliani gets can be used AT ALL in a court of law.

[Levelfive]

If Trump wanted a real investigation, he should have asked the State Department or the DoJ to do it right, instead of breaking the fucking law to extort Ukraine to make up bullshit on Biden that isn't there. The fact that he used someone that isn't a fucking government employee to do the investigation, means it is tainted and NOTHING that Guiliani gets can be used AT ALL in a court of law.

Not sure why you guys are trying to reason with someone who thoroughly enjoys being unreasonable and who revels so much in her own ignorance that it's practically masturbatory for her.
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[Saucexorzski]

Not sure why you guys are trying to reason with someone who thoroughly enjoys being unreasonable and who revels so much in her own ignorance that it's practically masturbatory for her.

stop talking about yourself so much.

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[unfilteredJW]

stop talking about yourself so much.

Imagine being over the age of 5 and using this phrase.

[Milchshake]

Hah I cant believe the mileage this thread has gotten! It's been living rent free in the heads of fascists and authoritarians for almost 2 years!!

More importantly, remember the Context of this thread, life in the middle of 2018:

• About a year after the Mueller probe launched. Leaks and details were scant
• About a year before the Mueller probe closed, and newly appointed criminal Bill Barr at the DOJ
• 18 months before Ukraine Whistleblower sent his complaints to congress detailing crimes by Trump and Guiliani
• Like 21 months before Trump became the third president to be impeached

It kinda reveals that heroes aren't really people. It's that a person can have a heroic moment in their life. Even bad people can have a heroic moment.

For the curious. The free rent in a fascist headspace smells bad. It's like a mix of; stale cheetos, bologna, and grandma's perfume.

[Donatello Trumpi]

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02...o-extort-nike/

"NEW YORK (AP) — Michael Avenatti, a lawyer who gained fame by representing a porn star in lawsuits against President Donald Trump, was convicted Friday of trying to extort sportswear giant Nike.

The verdict was returned Friday by a Manhattan federal jury after it deliberated charges of attempted extortion and honest services fraud in what prosecutors say was an attempt by Avenatti to extort up to $25 million from Nike with threats to otherwise harm it. The charges carry a combined potential penalty of 42 years in prison."


Looking good

lmao, I guess he truly is the hero the left deserves

[Lenonis]

lmao, I guess he truly is the hero the left deserves

You're awfully cocky for someone who is supporting a group of crooks that is one election from having their wrongdoing brought out into the sunshine. I'd say you'd feel stupid when Trump, Giuliani and friends are all indicted but...I'm not sure you actually have any sort of shame or self-reflection left.

[Jeb007]

Michael Avenatti, known as a hero on mmo champion.com

I mean really, this sentence just tells it all about what kind of delusions are being suffered here.

But it is golden entertainment. Cognitive dissonance galore. I love it boys. Encore, encore!!

[Masark]

Michael Avenatti, known as a hero on mmo champion.com

He lived long enough to become a villain.

It's apparently an occupational hazard for lawyers.