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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Warren is too dynamic to settle for VP. She can do so much more with a cabinet seat. Also putting two elderly white progressives on the ticket is just overkill.
    Also, these Reagan babies might be too young to remember. But losing 1 or 2 senate votes really slowed Obama's agenda. Nominating Sebieliues to Health was a big mistake. Then losing Ted Kennedy's seat to Scott Brown was a large blow. One which Warren remembers more keenly.

    Also these "I was a former Warren Supporter but..." tend to follow up by always putting her in a subservient role to Sanders. His VP, or one of secretaries. So curious.... Why would she give up real power as a senator or a committee seat?
    I want to say it's almost a Brocialist cliche. But we know brocialists dont really exist

    Warren is still in the race. We need her for more debates!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Bernie sure fucked up his interview with CNN. Can't answer substantial answers on policy costs and I guess said Castro was great.

    What. The. Holy. Fuck.

    The interview transcripts are dogshit too. He needs to up his fucking game and stop citing communist dictators as good people.
    That's literally the opposite of what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Have you posted anything related to reality in the last five years? Get help.

    I mean, it’s no worse that trump slobbering over Kim jong il and Putin.

    You’re deranged or trolling. Seriously, seek help.
    Reality? Like...

    Trump would crash the stock market
    Trump would lock up all minorities
    Trump would declare war on ____
    Mueller report would take him down
    Impeachment would take him down
    Etc etc

    Come out of your bubble and maybe you'll see reality for yourself. You're absolutely clueless or you don't live in the US if you think a self-avowed socialist who now praises communist dictators has any chance whatsoever in a general election against an incumbent with a strong economy.

    Would be funny if the Dems lost the house again just to show you how strong of a rebuke this country will give you. Even multiple Dems are sounding the alarm. You guys are on the railroad tracks with no clue of what is about to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Bernie sure fucked up his interview with CNN. Can't answer substantial answers on policy costs and I guess said Castro was great.

    What. The. Holy. Fuck.

    The interview transcripts are dogshit too. He needs to up his fucking game and stop citing communist dictators as good people.
    He praised Castro as much as Obama did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    "Now"? It got brought up because of things Sanders talked about in the 1980s. This has always been known, and isn't news to anyone who have a shit about anything.

    It isn't even the first time this got dredged back up; it was brought up in the 2016 primaries, too; https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...inistas-220550

    You have to be a special kind of willfully ignorant to be surprised by any of this. "Sanders remains ideologically consistent with his decades-long career positions" is not the gotcha you seem to think it is.
    So he's decades long consistent in his support for socialism and communist dictators.

    You're right, that sounds way better. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    This is the way of the mmo champion politics forum, Trump must be in every thread because Trumpsters can't post without bringing him up.
    You cannot really fault a thread dedicated to removing Trump for including Trump in the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    So he's decades long consistent in his support for socialism and communist dictators.

    You're right, that sounds way better. Ugh.
    False and I find it hilarious that Trump supporters suddenly care about supporting dictators, rewatch Trump's Helsinki conference with Putin or his meeting with Kim and let me know how you feel again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    False and I find it hilarious that Trump supporters suddenly care about supporting dictators, rewatch Trump's Helsinki conference with Putin or his meeting with Kim and let me know how you feel again.
    So because Trump did it, it's ok if Bernie does too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    He should have said Mexico will pay for it.
    Maybe the farmers can chip in with their bailouts.
    Democrats are the best! I will never ever question a Democrat again. I LOVE the Democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    So because Trump did it, it's ok if Bernie does too?
    Nope because Bernie did no such thing he analytically talked about how certain aspects of what they implemented was good versus Trump who showers dictators with verbal fellatio. It's called nuance and thinking critically foreign concepts to Trump followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    So because Trump did it, it's ok if Bernie does too?
    Then, why are you not upset that Trump did it? After all, you still support him, showing that you are being logically inconsistent. This is you literally admitting to being a partisan hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Reality? Like...
    Trump would crash the stock market
    I can't tell my landlord the rent is paid because the DOW is high today so fuck that.
    Trump would lock up all minorities
    He did this. Also increased tension towards Muslims, Hispanics, and Jews.
    Trump would declare war on ____
    Tried to but got checked
    Mueller report would take him down
    Impeachment would take him down
    Depending on what you expected out of those two incidents, he only 'beat' the by being shielded by a corrupt DOJ.

    The man is a loser of a President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordrann View Post
    It is almost hilarious really, Bloomberg gets in the race because he thinks he can stop the "liberal" wing, and now he is the very reason they will win the nomination. I think the best thing the "establishment" democrats could do at this point is push some of the weaker candidates to drop out of the race and endorse one specific candidate. They would win the nomination easily if the support wasn't so divided.
    Apparently the strategy being floated is that they want to remain divided because of the superdelegate dimension. They can't be absolutely sure that they'd win a contest with fewer candidates. But if they keep Sanders from a majority, someone else can win on the second round when superdelegates come in.

    Which is yet another insane idea. They don't think they can build a winning coalition that can beat Trump if Sanders wins. But they think they can build a winning coalition that can beat Trump by pissing off a plurality of their voters with a backroom shanking? This math does not check out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    You don't even have to use the WH for that argument.

    The constitution was written by slave owners and traitors. I guess that makes it bad now?
    Well they had to amend it for reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    I can't tell my landlord the rent is paid because the DOW is high today so fuck that.

    He did this. Also increased tension towards Muslims, Hispanics, and Jews.

    Tried to but got checked

    Depending on what you expected out of those two incidents, he only 'beat' the by being shielded by a corrupt DOJ.

    The man is a loser of a President.
    All this and he still likely steamrolls Bernie or anyone else.

    What a damning indictment of the current Democratic party. Beating Trump should have been a layup....but the Dems have turned it into almost certain defeat. What a cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    he analytically talked about how certain aspects of what they implemented
    LOL dude look at what you just wrote.

    If Trump had "analytically talked about certain good aspects of Nazi regime" you'd rake him over the coals, and rightfully so.

    New cult, same as the old cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Then, why are you not upset that Trump did it? After all, you still support him, showing that you are being logically inconsistent. This is you literally admitting to being a partisan hypocrite.
    Haven't voted yet but certainly considering it...current Dems not making it easy.

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...rmed-insulting

    Bernie should apologize and retract his statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    LOL dude look at what you just wrote.

    If Trump had "analytically talked about certain good aspects of Nazi regime" you'd rake him over the coals, and rightfully so.

    New cult, same as the old cult..
    I wouldn't I would be impressed if he could analytically talk about anything without a teleprompter. Let me give you an example Trump is a racist piece of shit but his criminal justice reform bill is a good first step and it has greatly benefited a lot of people of color. Do you see how this works? I know it's hard do try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    All this and he still likely steamrolls Bernie or anyone else.
    Based on what data?
    Bernie should apologize and retract his statement.
    Less and less people will start buying the US propaganda about Castro, sorry.
    This means nothing coming from people who praise people who killed far, far more people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Haven't voted yet but certainly considering it...current Dems not making it easy.
    Then vote for Trump.

    All this and he still likely steamrolls Bernie or anyone else.
    Wrong.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Then vote for Trump.
    He's hardcore Trump supporter he voted on a poll he was going to vote for Trump in 2020 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Bernie should apologize and retract his statement.
    Where's the apologies for the countless Racist statements/Policy and Civilian Casualties Trump has been responsible for?
    Last edited by szechuan; 2020-02-24 at 07:07 PM.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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