[Spoilers] New Shadows Rising Excerpt

[Verdugo]

Anyone else think the arrows are purposely misleading, especially since Talanji's attempted assassination? I'm willing to bet it's Tyrande and her elves. If not her, it's some other group trying to either frame the horde, or just trying to cover their own tracks.

Nah its Sylvanas. This expansion has shown us that speculating is worthless.

[Maxilian]

Something i don't rly know, why those young guards were killed? Did Sylvanus send her dark rangers just to shot some random dudes in Stormwind to put the blame of Zandalari? but i dunno, she would knew Anduin and the other would knew it was her doing all along?is this another 2746D chess she is playing with us?

Looks like spies or people looking for Sylvanas on Zandalar, i imagine she's there to deal with Bwonsandi in some way (or take something from him)

[formerShandalay]

One good thing is that Anduin at least doesn't make the mistake of sending Genn after her this time. He'd just burn down all of Zandalar while doing it. ^^

[BaumanKing]

One good thing is that Anduin at least doesn't make the mistake of sending Genn after her this time

So let's send Sylvanas' unstable sister instead. Great logic.

[Varodoc]

So let's send Sylvanas' unstable sister instead. Great logic.

If the Vision of N'Zoth show anything, she's as unstable as literally anyone living in either Stormwind or Orgrimmar, Thrall included.

[formerShandalay]

So let's send Sylvanas' unstable sister instead. Great logic.

At least she hasn't effed things up more than anyone else yet. I mean, she might not be the best pick at first glance, but Turalyon/Alleria is a much better pick than Genn/Rogers.

[Katchii]

You hire a YA author you get YA fiction. Who would have guessed?

I don't see the problem with this. YA books aren't inherently bad, though there are plenty that are, they just aren't complex and therefore not very subtle, that's kind of the point.

It's not meant to be a hugely praised and amazing literary work, it's a bridging story for a video game.

[Aeula]

Yeah, not going to buy this. I'll find another way to read/listen to it.

Even getting it for free would be subjecting myself to torture. But maybe it'll be funny torture with some choice cringe we can mock.

[Timester]

Since when Anduin became the absolute King of the Alliance? The "High King" is the military title of the Alliance commander-in-chief, it's not one position to be given by one Alliance king.

[Aeula]

Anyone else think the arrows are purposely misleading, especially since Talanji's attempted assassination? I'm willing to bet it's Tyrande and her elves. If not her, it's some other group trying to either frame the horde, or just trying to cover their own tracks.

It's probably Nathanos.

[Mehrunes]

At least she hasn't effed things up more than anyone else yet. I mean, she might not be the best pick at first glance, but Turalyon/Alleria is a much better pick than Genn/Rogers.

Alleria spent the last 500 years in a prison because of her decision making.

[formerShandalay]

Alleria spent the last 500 years in a prison because of her decision making.

Yea, by the decree of a naaru that's gone completely bonkers. I'm not going to hold that specific point aginst her ^^

[RadasNoir]

Nah its Sylvanas. This expansion has shown us that speculating is worthless.

This. People should really know by now that it's always something to do with Sylvanas.

Also, Tyrande is a lot of things, but "subtle" definitely isn't one of them. If she's going to go after the Horde, she's more likely to take the direct approach rather than some sort of false-flag nonsense.

[Aucald]

This. People should really know by now that it's always something to do with Sylvanas.

Also, Tyrande is a lot of things, but "subtle" definitely isn't one of them. If she's going to go after the Horde, she's more likely to take the direct approach rather than some sort of false-flag nonsense.

It also seems unlikely Tyrande would kill Alliance citizens in order to blame the Zandalari - she has no real and specific anger toward them, after all; her ire is focused singularly on Sylvanas. Nothing about this frame-up really seems to serve Tyrande's immediate goals.

[Minikin]

Man does Genn not ever learn lol. How many times must this dude be humbled (justified and not justified) to get his temper in control. Honestly next time he throws a hissy fit he should be reminded that last time he went on his anger crusade, he lost a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER, to a bunch of SHIPS, while having the moment of surprising and firing the first shot. If i had a loss like that on my book, id talk a bit more slow.

[allawyn]

It really irritates me how deferential to Anduin Genn is here. You're still a king, Genn, albeit of a destroyed kingdom.

It certainly is out of character. Genn treats the armistice as nothing. "We don't know if the Zanadari are involved, so lets just go ahead and violate the armistice because they might be". But that is in character for Genn. But then Anduin is suppose to consider it important but he is all "OK, that's a reasonable point of view".

[Varodoc]

"Tyrande is trying to frame the Horde" is the new "Greymane burned Teldrassil and framed Sylvanas". New expansion, same old arguments

[Maxilian]

I think misdirection is the main implication, yes. But more likely it's down to Sylvanas and her loyal Dark Rangers (apparently) trying to drive a wedge between the Horde and the Zandalari, probably dovetailing with Sylvanas' goal of eliminating Bwonsamdi - if the Zandalari lose the support of the Horde they become isolated once more, thus making Bwonsamdi and Talanji much softer targets.

Sounds like a sound assumption.

This also would make sense with the statement: "As Zekhan and Talanji work to save Bwonsamdi, their journey will be a key turning point in bolstering the Horde against the coming darkness and finding themselves and they may rediscover what makes the Horde strong."

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"Tyrande is trying to frame the Horde" is the new "Greymane burned Teldrassil and framed Sylvanas". New expansion, same old arguments

Most likely, is not that the idea of Tyrande framing the Horde is bad, is just that, it would be a twist, and we know that Blizzard will go with the most obvious reason as it was shown with the burning of Teldrassil fiasco

[sam86]

- Anduin is the leader of the Alliance. He's delegating, it's pretty obvious having a 1000 year veteren as the commander of your forces is a good idea.
- The Alleria Windrunner thing is just nitpicky, it's a formal order - and we know Anduin is a formal person - is it really that strange to you that he addresses her with her full name?
- There is nothing to suggest Zandalar isn't a continent
- Again, there is nothing to suggest Dark Rangers aren't the most skilled group of archers in Warcraft, and even then - Genn could just be being hyperbolic as he often is

what exactly make u not think they can shit on lore like they always do and change dark rangers lore?
and no according to last book dark rangers should be worse as @Combatbutler said, after all it was their shit idea to make undead from scourge to weakling pathetic creatures

[Maxilian]

If the Vision of N'Zoth show anything, she's as unstable as literally anyone living in either Stormwind or Orgrimmar, Thrall included.

The visions are N'zoth ideal world, so i wouldn't take it as anything, and is silly to not say that she's "dangerous" to a point, but she's going with the other side of the coin (Turalyon), so one another can keep them in check if needed (so IMHO a good idea to send the 2 together, also they have been working together for quite a long time, so they should have good teamwork)