Nexus, a fanmade expansion idea. Discussion thread

[BB8]

Hi! This is a project that started back in late 2015[/LIST]

You do not have to say anything more. You are hired!

[Syegfryed]

The Ethereals are known for a magic called "technomancy." If that doesn't help legitimize Tinkers for you I don't know what will.

that don't help at all, i know eheal for their magic, just that.

You're being quite negative and not offering constructive criticism to this guy, who has been working on it for 5 damn years. "It's shit like the pandaren" what the hell dude? That's just rude.

Are you blind? i literally said it would be good to have another race native there, so we could get 2, instead of one lame race only

a new race from that place, adding more lore to the world

Your stance on Pandarens is subjective, by the way. Plenty of people don't have a problem with them.

and thus they are the last playable race, behind even gnomes and goblins

[MrLachyG]

Hello!

This is an update to let you know The Twofold Light is now called Nexus, and made a logo for it! (Well, it's an edit of an old "Shadowlands" leak from last year I believe?) In any case, it's gorgeous <3



In addition, I'm -slowly- transferring everything into a doc, updating many stuff in the process. With this link you're able to both read and comment.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Thanks for your support and patience!

I am curious as to how the story will play out now that the Alliance and Horde are at an armistice and Sylvanas is gone

[Sagenod]

that don't help at all, i know eheal for their magic, just that.



Are you blind? i literally said it would be good to have another race native there, so we could get 2, instead of one lame race only

a new race from that place, adding more lore to the world


and thus they are the last playable race, behind even gnomes and goblins

Well if you're concerned about quantity, did you see the two allied races concepts?

And regarding the Pandaren that's fair enough. Monk is also the least played class. But blatantly calling it shit is incorrect because it's not. Same with the Ethereals as a race concept

[matrix123mko]

Are you blind? i literally said it would be good to have another race native there, so we could get 2, instead of one lame race only

a new race from that place, adding more lore to the world

I am afraid you may be the blind one. Nexus adds three races. Horde gets Iodari and Alliance gets Rakzash.

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Why is fanfic on the front page of an MMO news site? Is this how bored we've become?

Sure, I see you would prefer a thread about Black Magic Specialist BABA JI

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Hey all!

I'm very sorry for all this idle period of time, but I'm still working on this slow and steady!

I'm moving all the project onto a Google doc where I can keep track of everything at once. Let's face it, Wordpress wasn't helping me much formatting everything. It was one hell of a mess. Any new update in the editor would make it worse. Here's the link of the doc if you'd like to read it. The navigation bar in the left works wonders.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Please feel free to comment in the doc!

I am glad to see you again. I will read it over time and then I will be ready to do more art for you.

[Azalar]

<3 Matrix

Why is fanfic on the front page of an MMO news site? Is this how bored we've become?

I'd rather read some fanfic than countless pages of no content tbh lol

I am curious as to how the story will play out now that the Alliance and Horde are at an armistice and Sylvanas is gone

Yeah that's something I have to play with. The "Turalyon goes on a race to see who gets the blessing of the Naaru first" is a tropos I like, especially considering how zealous he is (and how nostalgic of Xe'ra he looks). It would also make the Alliance do crazy stuff first for once. As of lately it's been Horde does stuff and Alliance reacts. I'd like to see the Alliance seizing the initiative.

You do not have to say anything more. You are hired!

Well I'm happy you like the logo, but that's just what it is, a logo. The important stuff is the rest of stuff xD

[Sagenod]

Ethereals as a playable race has me on board no matter what! Just as well I love that you've brought the Rakshasa into WoW and if the Rakzash are similar in culture to the D&D origin it's nice to see that they're on the Alliance, since the faction is distinctly lacking in manipulative feline magic users. Also, Oblivion is the best third DH spec concept I've ever seen and it certainly harkens back to the WC3 metamorphosis.

I've gotta say the work you do here is very admirable. I checked out the concept a while back, and you along with several other creative minds on here gave me the inspiration to try my hand at fan-made concepts.

That being said I have the tendency to lose my inspiration and suddenly lack the motivation to continue working on an idea. The only thing I've ever decided to put on here is my race(s) concept and I have the same issue of losing my motivation.

Now I know this thread is intended for Nexus discussion (which by the way I would suggest you request a thread title change), but I am just wondering if you are willing to offer me any advice on beating writer's block. And if you ever have the opportunity I would be honored to have your opinion on the concept itself, which is linked in my signature. Just let me know if it's overall shite or what.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Probably obvious but I would think this would be the one time where an actual Void attack would be good for the final end of the story(Maybe the Void Lords or another Void Entity out there in the Great Dark learns how Karesh is doing and well perfect time to attack. I can't really think of anything outside of that, Nexus seems very exotic so I'm kinda stumped.

Interesting concept though nonetheless.

[Azalar]

Ethereals as a playable race has me on board no matter what! Just as well I love that you've brought the Rakshasa into WoW and if the Rakzash are similar in culture to the D&D origin it's nice to see that they're on the Alliance, since the faction is distinctly lacking in manipulative feline magic users. Also, Oblivion is the best third DH spec concept I've ever seen and it certainly harkens back to the WC3 metamorphosis.

I've gotta say the work you do here is very admirable. I checked out the concept a while back, and you along with several other creative minds on here gave me the inspiration to try my hand at fan-made concepts.

That being said I have the tendency to lose my inspiration and suddenly lack the motivation to continue working on an idea. The only thing I've ever decided to put on here is my race(s) concept and I have the same issue of losing my motivation.

Now I know this thread is intended for Nexus discussion (which by the way I would suggest you request a thread title change), but I am just wondering if you are willing to offer me any advice on beating writer's block. And if you ever have the opportunity I would be honored to have your opinion on the concept itself, which is linked in my signature. Just let me know if it's overall shite or what.

I'm happy you like Rakzash, which are indeed based on Rakshasa, the same way Iodari are pretty much Djinns. For Oblivion I wanted something very different to what DH is now, and I think it worked out well, if not maybe too innovative lol

Motivation comes and goes, and I'm no different to you. The lack of feedback is certainly one of the most thwarting things regarding motivation. It's also one of the reasons this goes so slowly. The good thing is, the time in between bursts of writing energy helps me get ideas and refresh old ones. So yeah, procrastinating isn't necessarily bad either, it's perfectly natural as long as you don't lose the hook.

Oh I tried to change the title myself but it didn't work. You say I can request a change? I've got to try that. Thanks for letting me know!

Probably obvious but I would think this would be the one time where an actual Void attack would be good for the final end of the story(Maybe the Void Lords or another Void Entity out there in the Great Dark learns how Karesh is doing and well perfect time to attack. I can't really think of anything outside of that, Nexus seems very exotic so I'm kinda stumped.

Interesting concept though nonetheless.

Actually, there is a lead towards next expac after Nexus as soon as in x.2 (the second patch). Which will probably be about time travel again, but I believe I can work it out without being too much WoDish. I have some ideas swarming already.

[Ielenia]

work wonderful on the paper, but it is shit, just like pandaren

is worse in a faction revolved around factions and different races, pandaren didn't work, their nonsense ideology didn't work, and work less with a race like etherals, without any reason to join factions at all.

A neutral race also rob another unique race option, we could get 2, but instead we get only one, we pay the same for less

A race being "neutral" does not necessary means going the exact same way as the pandaren. For one, a neutral race does not HAVE to have the same starting experience. A neutral race also wouldn't have the same ideologies as the pandaren.

As for the ethereals, they're like "superior, more competent versions" of the goblins, meaning they're trade-oriented and don't usually tend to get involved in conflicts unless it benefits their goals.

[Azalar]

As for the ethereals, they're like "superior, more competent versions" of the goblins, meaning they're trade-oriented and don't usually tend to get involved in conflicts unless it benefits their goals.

Rather than superior (we could argue Draenei also have quite high superior tech), I'd place them somewhere in between Gnomish and Goblin tech. Theirs is definitely a more pragmatic approach.

The engineering triangle they'd make is amusing.

[Ielenia]

Rather than superior (we could argue Draenei also have quite high superior tech), I'd place them somewhere in between Gnomish and Goblin tech. Theirs is definitely a more pragmatic approach.

The engineering triangle they'd make is amusing.

Eh, I still think the Ethereals' technology is still very far ahead of the gnomes' and goblins' tech, considering that portals for them is a normal means of transportation, and hey can actually TERRAFORM as they have shown to be able to restore parts of a fel-corrupted land back into being able to harbor life.

And their tech is not exactly known for malfunctioning/exploding, too.

[Azalar]

Eh, I still think the Ethereals' technology is still very far ahead of the gnomes' and goblins' tech, considering that portals for them is a normal means of transportation, and hey can actually TERRAFORM as they have shown to be able to restore parts of a fel-corrupted land back into being able to harbor life.

And their tech is not exactly known for malfunctioning/exploding, too.

Oh, but I agree with you. I'm not so sure we could call eco-domes terraforming, though, they're an artificial greenhouse. A very impressive and magnified greenhouse.

In that respect, we'd have to take into account Naaru/Draenei tech too (as well as other races'), able to build spaceships and warp-in stuff. I believe it's not about Goblins and Gnomes alone anymore.

[Syegfryed]

Well if you're concerned about quantity, did you see the two allied races concepts?

there is no two allied concepts here.

And regarding the Pandaren that's fair enough. Monk is also the least played class. But blatantly calling it shit is incorrect because it's not. Same with the Ethereals as a race concept

and it is good because? the factions in the horde and alliance are in the limbo since MOP with no lore or development since they left the turtle, is shit, didn't work, and they should not do again, i like how the game work with different races at each faction and i preach they keep in the way is working

I have no problem with etheral as a race concept, like i said it would make sense they joining alliance, i have problems in they being neutral and in joining horde

I am afraid you may be the blind one. Nexus adds three races. Horde gets Iodari and Alliance gets Rakzash.

There is no such thing in the MMo champion post, i can't see shit here if its not here

A race being "neutral" does not necessary means going the exact same way as the pandaren. For one, a neutral race does not HAVE to have the same starting experience. A neutral race also wouldn't have the same ideologies as the pandaren.

As for the ethereals, they're like "superior, more competent versions" of the goblins, meaning they're trade-oriented and don't usually tend to get involved in conflicts unless it benefits their goals.

its the same race nevertheless

if you want make the same race with 2 different groups so totally opposite and different, both thematically and in appearance might as well just cut the crap and do 2 races anyway

pandarens didn't had the same ideologies, they went to different factions precisely because the ideologies were different, still didn't work

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Dumb question but I suppose Karesh didn't get touched by the Legion?

[Ielenia]

its the same race nevertheless

Now you're backpedaling, if you're just going to fall back to "it's the same race, regardless".

pandarens didn't had the same ideologies, they went to different factions precisely because the ideologies were different, still didn't work

Here's the thing: everyone loves to tout how "neutral pandaren does not work" because a WoW developer once said that in a tweet, but no one ever stops to think about what about the pandaren "does not work". Was it them sharing the same model? Was it them sharing the same starting experience? Was them sharing the exact same racials? The same class choices? Etc, etc.

[Syegfryed]

Now you're backpedaling, if you're just going to fall back to "it's the same race, regardless".

not rly, im since the beginning saying im not fan of the idea because it is the same race regardless in both factions

Here's the thing: everyone loves to tout how "neutral pandaren does not work" because a WoW developer once said that in a tweet, but no one ever stops to think about what about the pandaren "does not work". Was it them sharing the same model? Was it them sharing the same starting experience? Was them sharing the exact same racials? The same class choices? Etc, etc.

look, i know why you are defending the neutral race thing, don't try to pretend, but yeah they didn't work because they were the same race, in the factions revolved around racial difference.

if the "same" race, have everything different, then cut the crap and just do another race, completely pointless and nonsensical to put the same race with everything else different if they are the same race.

Similar races who evolved from the same, but are still different, and kill each other in a far away planet, sounds dope to me, the same race with different ideology also fighting for the luls, sounds shit to me, thats of course is mi opinión

[matrix123mko]

Dumb question but I suppose Karesh didn't get touched by the Legion?

Yes and no. They didn't bother to invade it, as it is a barren destroyed by Dimensius. However, some demons accidentally crashed onto K'aresh and are frozen in Val.

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Similar races who evolved from the same, but are still different, and kill each other in a far away planet, sounds dope to me, the same race with different ideology also fighting for the luls, sounds shit to me, thats of course is mi opinión

This is quite logical that these people fight for luls. Real humans do that for millenia.

[Azalar]

there is no two allied concepts here.

Yes, there are. Just not on the first post. That's my bad really, but here's it. It's probably outdated anyway, since I'm moving all stuff to the doc.

2 new Allied Races: Rakzash (Alliance) and Iodari (Horde)

Dumb question but I suppose Karesh didn't get touched by the Legion?

It's pretty much untouched by the Legion, yeah. HOWEVER, there are demons out there. If I recall my own lore well (lmao), Val was a satellite of Nathreza inhabited by Nathrezim which eventually exploded and became a comet that ultimately crashed on K'aresh. Just for the record, the Val we visit in Argus is in fact Val already in K'aresh.

There are also traces of protodemons (the Ruinwalkers) and the Aldrachi in the zone of Dal Karos in Amketh.

Exploring the neutral facet of demons is something I particularly like.

[Ielenia]

look, i know why you are defending the neutral race thing, don't try to pretend, but yeah they didn't work because they were the same race, in the factions revolved around racial difference.

Can I have an official statement for that, or are you just using conjecture?