If blizzard sold transmog sets in the shop

[SpydirShell]

The problem we selling transmog in the store is that:
Any piece of for-money has got to be unique enough that people will spend money on it.

This means that any piece added will not get similar pieces added in-game for money or not.
Non-pay availability is thus limited by the existence of a paid version.

For example, the existing head transmog - cool glowy headpieces - have not gotten anything similar since their introduction.

[Alcsaar]

in game shops shouldn't even exist for a pay to play, subscription based game.

The last thing I want to see is them push more shit to the store that could be obtainable in game in various ways.

[Drusin]

Wonder how many times you've complained about capitalism on Twitter.

I'm only on Twitter to see the twitter exclusive content pornstars post. I never talk on there. I have no problem with capitalism

[qwerty123456]

in game shops shouldn't even exist for a pay to play, subscription based game.

The last thing I want to see is them push more shit to the store that could be obtainable in game in various ways.

Cash shops can help supplement the need for X number of players before the need to scale back the number of devs and content created.

[Alcsaar]

Cash shops can help supplement the need for X number of players before the need to scale back the number of devs and content created.

Maybe the reason for the downslide of subs is because of the mediocre content and expansions we've been seeing for the past 5+ years, so sounds like a vicious unsustainable loop to me.

[protpaul]

Eve online has done it multiple times now.
And the rest just have cash shops.

If they adjusted the sub value to be what dollar value used to be back in the day, we'd pay $21 per month.
Makes optional cash shop that sells irrelevant items sound pretty good alternative.

I mean why would the sub be worth what it was back then? Using your terrible logic server costs are a fraction of what they used to be. Why hasn't the sub been lowered since dozens of servers run off a single blade rather then one?

You don't have to stick your tongue down blizzards throat because you enjoy their products.

[Revamp Man]

Just
1. Wait until the next expansion and farm it

2. But tokens for boosts

There are plenty of games with gear shops

[qwerty123456]

Maybe the reason for the downslide of subs is because of the mediocre content and expansions we've been seeing for the past 5+ years, so sounds like a vicious unsustainable loop to me.

No game can sustain a set number of subscribers you would have to be retarded to think that. At a certain point in a games life cycle the number of new players is less than the number of players that stop playing.

[Lora]

Considering people have always bought gold, has the game been P2W all along?

but it wasnt officially p2w until blizzard added tokens. buying gold otherwise was and still remains against ToS and is a bannable offense.

[Rawrajishxc]

Buying a Tmog set with real money and walking around town because you're still ass at the game (as you said) sounds much less fun than actually doing the content. People like you, with this mentality, truly are ruining not just this video game but all video games.

That part.

[deenman]

Only if they removed the monthly fee and gave you unlimited access to the game by making it buy to play (most current expansion for the most current content), and then bolster the shop with a ton of cool shit to make up for the sub losses which has been proven to provide more money on average than a sub as most people don't keep a concurrent one anyways.

well actualy,in wow's case that would lose them bilions,wow's main income comes from bots,they buy the game and sub for longer than actual players,then actual players buy tokens to get gold to buy the extremly overpriced stuff the bots market manipulate,its pure genius,wouldnt surprise me if the bots are paying blizzard a cut,i think its fair to say bots make up more than half of blizzards income from wow

[TheRevenantHero]

I already kick people out of my group with the helm transmog my booting skills would just climb higher.

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People buying cashshop items in a sub game degrade it for everyone...

You can tell when a mount is going to be earned in game and when it is going to be sold via quality.

Kicking people from a group for having cash shop transmog is the epitome of toxic.

[Ticj]

How does it harm anyone if it is not compromising quality of ingame items?

It is a cosmetic item with no impact on game play. Same principle as mounts. There are cash shop mounts and ingame mounts. Many ingame mounts (like Lucid nightmare, Mail muncher etc) are as good as any cash shop mount. They have released pretty decent ingame mounts in BFA already in addition to the cash shop ones. (and unique ones like Hivemind mount). And no, not all of them are reskinned horses.

Optional services to support the bottomline is always beneficial to game development. Then execs dont have to lay off a bunch of artists/devs in order to meet their profits if they have reasonable income through some endeavors. As a publicly traded company, they will always look at improving their profits even at the cost of internal staffing.

So, I would rather people who can afford it help buy such things from the cash shop, if it would mean keeping a developer/artist from losing their job due to profits not meeting expectations.

TLDR,
Some people buy Collector's editions. Some don't. If it is not game breaking, allow the consumer to chip in and decide what they want to spend their money on.

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Wow and FFXIV are the only two currently active MMOs which have subs. And they both have cash shops. FFXIV has very comprehensive set of "xmog" items available in their shops. And people buy them a LOT. If consumers want to spend on such things, why shouldnt they be allowed to do so? It is not game breaking.

If it is against your principles to not support such things, then dont buy the items from cash shop. But dont block others who are willing to support artists for their hardwork from buying such items from cash shops.

Because you understand that the more time they spend on shop store cosmetics is less time being spent on things actually obtainable within the game right? You can't deny this is happening whenever BfA has given us so many reskinned mounts, yet they have had time to make what is it now....4 or 5 new shop mounts throughout the expansion? Keeping in mind of course that these shop mounts for the most part have their own unique models attached?

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And yet no one seems to be able to adequately explain how.

See above ^^^

[Gref]

that is a hard no from me. still if they put the old items from the previous expansions, that wouldn't make me quit. but if they put new greatlooking transmogs to the shop while the items we get from the raids simply suck in design, (as it is clear, blizz wants to sell the items on the shop, who gives a fuck about the design of free loot from raids) that would be the last straw for me.

not that I care about other people's looks but because of scummy business model that blizzard developed. with all the crap they did these last years, that would be the last thing for me. for shitting on the image of blizzard and my memories of a once great company.

[Stardrift]

optional purchases are optional and whoever wants to utilize these services to enhance their own personal gameplay are completely entitled to do so and anybody looking down on another person for it is actually a clown

LMAO okay there. Keep putting your hard earned money towards those that don't deserve it

[Kithelle]

What if Blizzard sold transmog sets in the shop? Like unlike the store helmets these are entire armor sets. Maybe even weapons and enchants. I'd instantly throw my money at the screen. Listen, I am neither good enough nor do i have the time for mythic raiding, and mythic raiding is always where the cool armor sets are. I get the "How about unlocking them through achivements/acomplishments?" but I like many others have more money than time, and I'd very much enjoy to look badass without having to run ancient raids for months.

Yes/No?

Edit: I didn't mean selling sets already in the game but brand new ones like the one in the shadowlands preorder

I could care less as long as the obtainable ingame stuff doesn't reduce in frequency or quality, wouldn't affect me in the least then.

[Rucati]

I have never and will never use transmog, the whole system is ridiculously stupid as far as I'm concerned. I also don't use the shop, so I'm like doubly uninterested in buying transmog from the shop.

That being said it wouldn't really bother me, seems like a logical next step honestly. As long as they don't have stats and it's purely transmog I really see no issue with it, they're basically already doing it with Shadowlands since one version gets you a set and the others don't, but yeah, again it seems fine to me.

[protpaul]

Kicking people from a group for having cash shop transmog is the epitome of toxic.

You make the community you want and I will aim to make the community I want. No quarter to those who support the cash shop by using it.

[Drusin]

lol while I do find the recent uptick in the number of "why do we still pay a sub price?" threads amusing I do hope everyone can get back to work soon in the wake of this pandemic so they can start making money again and not complain about 50 fucking cents a day lol.

[Unholyground]

well actualy,in wow's case that would lose them bilions,wow's main income comes from bots,they buy the game and sub for longer than actual players,then actual players buy tokens to get gold to buy the extremly overpriced stuff the bots market manipulate,its pure genius,wouldnt surprise me if the bots are paying blizzard a cut,i think its fair to say bots make up more than half of blizzards income from wow

I highly doubt it is anywhere close to half.