Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Cizr]

When Trump sends in armed men to escalate the situation? Yes, yes it is his fault.


Why don't you tell us? When you're finished with that, tell us how many suspects have been arrested in relation to those crimes. Since, you know, police effectiveness is so astronomically high to justify never holding them accountable for murdering citizens themselvse.

When did Trump sent armed men vs how long are violent riots going on already?

You are complaining about police effectiveness? I am sure that people of Chaz were helping police to get to suspects, right? They totaly dont have "dont talk to cops, dont snitch" policy, right ?

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Those same majors / governors who are asking Trump not to do what he's doing in their cities with his gestapo police causing even more violence and riots?

Yeah the same majors who want to defund and cripple police and prevent them from doing their job. Obviously thats also Trumps fault. Trump is responsible for everything /s

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I'm sorry you're right, they're still in the process of burning. I'm sure the plumes of smoke will soon be visible around the country

I accept your apology for strawmaning. Try to do better next time.

[Draco-Onis]

Those same majors / governors who are asking Trump not to do what he's doing in their cities with his gestapo police causing even more violence and riots?

Don't bother the guy whose avatar was a swatzika but "totally not" is loving the Gestapo no surprise there.

[Cizr]

Don't bother the guy whose avatar was a swatzika but "totally not" is loving the Gestapo no surprise there.

I guess you ran out of arguments again when you need to lie and insult like that.


Btw feds are not like Gestapo at all. I know its part of your "Trump is literally Hitler !!!1" narrative but you should maybe read what Gestapo did because you are spitting on all victims of the real Gestapo. They sure wish that the worst thing Gestapo did to them was load them in a car, question them and then sent them home.

[unfilteredJW]

I guess you ran out of arguments again when you need to lie and insult like that.

You don’t get to throw stones about lying and misinterpreting.

[Blur4stuff]

Every single one of these thugs from top to bottom need to be prosecuted when Trump is out of office.

Following orders isn't an excuse.

[Howel]

I guess you ran out of arguments again when you need to lie and insult like that.


Btw feds are not like Gestapo at all. I know its part of your "Trump is literally Hitler !!!1" narrative but you should maybe read what Gestapo did because you are spitting on all victims of the real Gestapo. They sure wish that the worst thing Gestapo did to them was load them in a car, question them and then sent them home.

The Gestapo did plenty of snatch and grabs, questioning, and then sent you away.

They did worse things in the extreme, but not as a norm. So the comparison is not completely out of sense.

Could call them Stasi if that's a bit easier to swallow, then it is at least dirty commie strats

[Cizr]

You don’t get to throw stones about lying and misinterpreting.

I do actually. Are you trying to say something? I am sure you can backup whatever claim you have, right ?

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The Gestapo did plenty of snatch and grabs, questioning, and then sent you away.

They did worse things in the extreme, but not as a norm. So the comparison is not completely out of sense.

Could call them Stasi if that's a bit easier to swallow, then it is at least dirty commie strats

If they did snatch and grab it usually was accompanied with beating.

In my occupied country they would kill your whole family in front of you to make you talk. When they wanted to make a member of anti nazi resistance talk they killed his mother, cut off her head, put it in a jar of formaldehyde and took it with them everytime that they went to question him. Comparing Feds and Gestapo is absolute lunacy and pretty disgusting.

[Saltysquidoon]

You are complaining about police effectiveness? I am sure that people of Chaz were helping police to get to suspects, right? They totaly dont have "dont talk to cops, dont snitch" policy, right ?

I'm an actual lawyer, If I was going to give advice about talking to the police. It would be that no one should ever willingly talk to the police under any circumstances.

[Draco-Onis]

I guess you ran out of arguments again when you need to lie and insult like that.

Please specify which part was a lie? did you not have an avatar that was a Swatzitka that you said was totally not and was proud of? why aren't you proud anymore?

I could also point out the fact that you are always defending neo nazis and racists too but I am sure that is totally a "coincidence".

[Shadowferal]

No I said it hurts their message, no one deserves to be oppressed. The rioters are hurting the protesters message. The feds are doing a good enough job of helping the protesters message.

NAACP agrees with you

The Portland National Association for the Advancement of Colored People held an event in front of the Justice Center to bring focus back to the Black Lives Matter movement called, Portland: Let’s Get Protests Back on Track.

"With the arrival of anarchists and the Feds, the Black Lives Matter protests have become diluted by those who have either forgotten why we are demonstrating or purposely coopted the BLM message,” said Portland NAACP president E.D. Mondainé in a press release.

"I think it’s important for them to know to help us, to help what’s going on, is for them to realize, together we’re gonna stand, but divided we’re gonna fall,” said Pastor Roy L. Tate of Christ Memorial Community Church. “So we’re coming together to help spread the message that black lives do matter. That we’re not for racism. We gotta make sure that people understand that what we see, what’s going on, its not helping us, its hurtful.”

[Belize]

I'm an actual lawyer, If I was going to give advice about talking to the police. It would be that no one should ever willingly talk to the police under any circumstances.

What, are you saying that agreeing to wave all your legal rights and talk to the people that just kidnapped you without a lawyer, is not a great idea??

[Howel]

If they did snatch and grab it usually was accompanied with beating.

In my occupied country they would kill your whole family in front of you to make you talk. When they wanted to make a member of anti nazi resistance talk they killed his mother, cut off her head, put it in a jar of formaldehyde and took it with them everytime that they went to question him. Comparing Feds and Gestapo is absolute lunacy and pretty disgusting.

Weirdly enough, I said in extremes. The Gestapo wasn't small, if this was their action on everything, the list of dead people would exceed the wars death-toll.

But as I said, feel free to make the link to any other authoritarian police force that your feelings aren't triggered by. People will make the connection to it nonetheless, because the acts that they are doing, should be horrifying to even consider, so it being noted as an extreme shouldn't be surprising.

Or make up a completely new word. GeTrumpa. Strumpsi

[Saucexorzski]

I do actually. Are you trying to say something? I am sure you can backup whatever claim you have, right ?

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If they did snatch and grab it usually was accompanied with beating.

In my occupied country they would kill your whole family in front of you to make you talk. When they wanted to make a member of anti nazi resistance talk they killed his mother, cut off her head, put it in a jar of formaldehyde and took it with them everytime that they went to question him. Comparing Feds and Gestapo is absolute lunacy and pretty disgusting.

By this time you should release the authoritarian left likes to equate things that are not equal. Trump benefiting from russian interference means trump is a russian asset, detention facilities used to hold illegal immigrant under obama become concentration camps, and now the same federal agents the left wing folk were begging to kill the Bundy ranch folks are the Gestapo. Id say they just using hyperbole but they actually believe this stuff.

[Howel]

By this time you should release the authoritarian left likes to equate things that are not equal.

I think this is almost signature worthy, it is that drenched in irony

[unfilteredJW]

I do actually. Are you trying to say something? I am sure you can backup whatever claim you have, right ?

Literally shown a few posts up.

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I think this is almost signature worthy, it is that drenched in irony

Lack of self awareness and projection are as infective as the Covid virus to these folks.

Too bad a mask won’t help the stupid they spit.

[Cizr]

Please specify which part was a lie? did you not have an avatar that was a Swatzitka that you said was totally not and was proud of? why aren't you proud anymore?

I could also point out the fact that you are always defending neo nazis and racists too but I am sure that is totally a "coincidence".

It is slavic kolovrat which is a type of swastika. What is a lie is that its a nazi symbol and only used by neo nazis. Idk why you think that I am not proud anymore

Your claim that I always defend neo nazis and racist is also a lie that you use whenever you are losing an argument. I cant even count how many times I asked you to provide any evidence supporting that claim and suprise suprise you always failed to provide it.

Do not bother me with your attacks if you cant argue and educate yourself before you will make another repulsive comments like the Gestapo one.

[Cizr]

I'm an actual lawyer, If I was going to give advice about talking to the police. It would be that no one should ever willingly talk to the police under any circumstances.

Does not seem like a right advice. Cooperating with police helps caught criminals and saves lives.

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By this time you should release the authoritarian left likes to equate things that are not equal. Trump benefiting from russian interference means trump is a russian asset, detention facilities used to hold illegal immigrant under obama become concentration camps, and now the same federal agents the left wing folk were begging to kill the Bundy ranch folks are the Gestapo. Id say they just using hyperbole but they actually believe this stuff.

I know that. Their hypocrisy and double standards is hillarious.

[Saltysquidoon]

Does not seem like a right advice. Cooperating with police helps caught criminals and saves lives.

I didn't give any advice.

You are of course free to discard my opinion. I will say, however, as someone with legal training and experience that most of the legal fraternity agree it is never in anyone's legal interest to voluntarily talk to the police.

[Howel]

I didn't give any advice.

You are of course free to discard my opinion. I will say, however, as someone with legal training and experience that most of the legal fraternity agree it is never in anyone's legal interest to voluntarily talk to the police.

Guessing it is the whole, what you say, can and will be used against you in a court?

[Cizr]

I didn't give any advice.

You are of course free to discard my opinion. I will say, however, as someone with legal training and experience that most of the legal fraternity agree it is never in anyone's legal interest to voluntarily talk to the police.

I think I understand why you and your fellow lawyers see it that way. I just think that refusing to talk with police when it can help someone and save lives is morally wrong.