Confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett for the Supreme Court

[downnola]

I think religious people are protected by law from discrimination though. So before you get to that you would need to get rid of the discrimination law first.

The separation of church and state matters when you're appointing people to the supreme court. It's not discrimination, it's trying to keep theocrats out of the judicial branch of government.

[Antiganon]

I think religious people are protected by law from discrimination though. So before you get to that you would need to get rid of the discrimination law first.

1A provides for a freedom of and from religion.

Congress can't pass laws based on religious beliefs. Period.

[breadisfunny]

I think religious people are protected by law from discrimination though. So before you get to that you would need to get rid of the discrimination law first.

stop playing dumb.

[Ashleyxoxo]

She’s very attractive for someone her age.

[breadisfunny]

She’s very attractive for someone her age.

if your into milf's who look like a deer in headlights look i guess....

[Azadina]

They're small-minded hateful bigots.

Why should the onus be on the rest of us to change their minds? Better to marginalize them and expose them and let them socially reap what they sow. If they don't like it, they can stop sowing hatred any time. Literally nothing is forcing them to do so.

Changing their minds isn't just impossible, it's irrelevant. Why would we ever make that effort? Why is that everyone else's responsibility, and not the responsibility of the bigots themselves?

You don't try and convince a serial sexual harasser that they should stop predating on the company's female staff. You just fire them, and let them go fuck off somewhere else, while simultaneously telling every prospective employer who contacts you regarding them about their problems, in great detail and in as condemnatory a tone as you can feasibly do so.

Where the hell did this idea of "changing their minds" even come from? It's absolute gibbering nonsense.

It's even worse than just nonsense; it's bad faith arguing. It's purposefully trying to set their opponents on a pointless and a complete waste of time of a quest, in order to distract the attention away from whatever status quo they want to keep in the meantime, unchallenged. Any time spent trying to reason with them, is time spent away from opposing them, and that it precisely what they'd like.

[Krakan]

They're small-minded hateful bigots.

Why should the onus be on the rest of us to change their minds? Better to marginalize them and expose them and let them socially reap what they sow. If they don't like it, they can stop sowing hatred any time. Literally nothing is forcing them to do so.

Changing their minds isn't just impossible, it's irrelevant. Why would we ever make that effort? Why is that everyone else's responsibility, and not the responsibility of the bigots themselves?

You don't try and convince a serial sexual harasser that they should stop predating on the company's female staff. You just fire them, and let them go fuck off somewhere else, while simultaneously telling every prospective employer who contacts you regarding them about their problems, in great detail and in as condemnatory a tone as you can feasibly do so.

Where the hell did this idea of "changing their minds" even come from? It's absolute gibbering nonsense.

Because in time the wheel turns and in its turning you will squeal under its wheel all the same.

It is coming for when power fades for the weaken group to lash out. I don't blame you for your zeal it's much the same as conservatives in the 90s acted when culture slipped from their grasp.

I believe that when it comes time for the old guard to fall how they fall matters. If you try desperately to brow beat the new it will end up with things being far worse.

I believe any weapon you fashion against an enemy is a weapon you accept will be used on you. It's why you now see conservatives pushing so hard to fire left leaning authors for example. They know it is their time once again.

[Draco-Onis]

Because in time the wheel turns and in its turning you will squeal under its wheel all the same.

It is coming for when power fades for the weaken group to lash out. I don't blame you for your zeal it's much the same as conservatives in the 90s acted when culture slipped from their grasp.

I believe that when it comes time for the old guard to fall how they fall matters. If you try desperately to brow beat the new it will end up with things being far worse.

I believe any weapon you fashion against an enemy is a weapon you accept will be used on you. It's why you now see conservatives pushing so hard to fire left leaning authors for example. They know it is their time once again.

But time moves forward abortion, same sex marriage and the culture wars that conservatives want to fight are 80-20 issues. The majority of the country has moved on and accepted these things they are the ones fighting time. So there is no changing their minds they know there is no wheel turning that is why they are so desperate to rig the system so that a minority can control the majority. The problem is they are pressing too hard conservatives with a brain like Roberts know this but the entire right wing has gone off the deep end and now we cross the rubicon.

[Krakan]

But time moves forward abortion, same sex marriage and the culture wars that conservatives want to fight are 80-20 issues. The majority of the country has moved on and accepted these things they are the ones fighting time. So there is no changing their minds they know there is no wheel turning that is why they are so desperate to rig the system so that a minority can control the majority. The problem is they are pressing too hard conservatives with a brain like Roberts know this but the entire right wing has gone off the deep end and now we cross the rubicon.

Homosexuality is a ancient Greek issue by that standard and that is simply going by what we have recorded I'm sure it is far older.

If what you said was true I doubt there would be this level of worry or fear. Much has changed in even my short time on this earth and it could just as easily change back and the reason for it changing will be the same passion filled arguements that had it change.

I don't believe it should at least not all of it I admit to have some issues with a specific group I believe is handled poorly but it breaches the forums rules so I can get into specifics via PMs if you feel I need to clarify.

I don't know where the middle ground will be if I am honest. It's easy to see the other sides sins but they are peering at yours. Under democrat control we have seen cities burn and murders that shouldnt of been allowed to happen aided by the chaos.

They are galvanized I honestly don't know how far they can push public outrage currently.

[Elegiac]

Because in time the wheel turns and in its turning you will squeal under its wheel all the same.

It is coming for when power fades for the weaken group to lash out. I don't blame you for your zeal it's much the same as conservatives in the 90s acted when culture slipped from their grasp.

I believe that when it comes time for the old guard to fall how they fall matters. If you try desperately to brow beat the new it will end up with things being far worse.

I believe any weapon you fashion against an enemy is a weapon you accept will be used on you. It's why you now see conservatives pushing so hard to fire left leaning authors for example. They know it is their time once again.

K, you're entitled to believe this but you're still wrong.

Prove otherwise.

[Draco-Onis]

Homosexuality is a ancient Greek issue by that standard and that is simply going by what we have recorded I'm sure it is far older.

If what you said was true I doubt there would be this level of worry or fear. Much has changed in even my short time on this earth and it could just as easily change back and the reason for it changing will be the same passion filled arguements that had it change.

I don't believe it should at least not all of it I admit to have some issues with a specific group I believe is handled poorly but it breaches the forums rules so I can get into specifics via PMs if you feel I need to clarify.

I don't know where the middle ground will be if I am honest. It's easy to see the other sides sins but they are peering at yours. Under democrat control we have seen cities burn and murders that shouldnt of been allowed to happen aided by the chaos.

They are galvanized I honestly don't know how far they can push public outrage currently.

Name one city that has burned? It doesn't help to use hyperbole, republicans control most of the government. If you are referring to racial unrest that has resulted in some looting that has happened under presidents of both sides it has more to do with demons we never dealt with as a country. The right wing has made it clear they want to take this country back 100 years with this appointment everything is on the table. It's the nightmare of people like Roberts who are afraid of the pendulum swing.

The reason for this worry and fear is simply due to how unstable conservatives have become as a group. Both parties have taken the approach of slowly boiling the frog as politics are boring people have not paid attention until now. Both groups are galvanized because the right has given up slowly boiling the frog and put the oven on max. The democratic party is now forced to do the same in the other direction just like physics no one escapes Newton's law. If democrats fail to deliver on what the majority wants then they too will face a backlash of historic proportions from the progressive wing which will take over.

[Krakan]

K, you're entitled to believe this but you're still wrong.

Prove otherwise.

Prove what exactly? That the past is a strange and forgien land we don't truely understand and that the future will look upon us the same way?

[Elegiac]

Prove what exactly? That the past is a strange and forgien land we don't truely understand and that the future will look upon us the same way?

No, prove your nonsense hypothesis about social cyclicality.

Because no, Felicia, history does not repeat itself.

[draynay]

Prove what exactly? That the past is a strange and forgien land we don't truely understand and that the future will look upon us the same way?

Its always best when the person who doesn't understand anything doesn't try to speak for others. I get that you don't understand, but your experience is hardly global.

[Elegiac]

Its always best when the person who doesn't understand anything doesn't try to speak for others. I get that you don't understand, but your experience is hardly global.

I do love the Connal-esque tactic of retreating into quotes to make oneself seem profound when they're backed into a corner, tbh.

[Krakan]

Name one city that has burned? It doesn't help to use hyperbole, republicans control most of the government. If you are referring to racial unrest that has resulted in some looting that has happened under presidents of both sides it has more to do with demons we never dealt with as a country. The right wing has made it clear they want to take this country back 100 years with this appointment everything is on the table. It's the nightmare of people like Roberts who are afraid of the pendulum swing.

The reason for this worry and fear is simply due to how unstable conservatives have become as a group. Both parties have taken the approach of slowly boiling the frog as politics are boring people have not paid attention until now. Both groups are galvanized because the right has given up slowly boiling the frog and put the oven on max. The democratic party is now forced to do the same in the other direction just like physics no one escapes Newton's law. If democrats fail to deliver on what the majority wants then they too will face a backlash of historic proportions from the progressive wing which will take over.

The only difference between what you are saying and what a conservative would is who pushed who.

I don't really need to list off names when you instantly know the issue at hand. You can play the it's both sides game but as an outsider it rings a bit hollow to me at the very least.

I don't know what the future will bring but if I had to guess I believe conservatives will win this bout and stack the supreme court.

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No, prove your nonsense hypothesis about social cyclicality.

Because no, Felicia, history does not repeat itself.

If that is what you wish to believe more power to you. I don't really know how to argue faith well.

[Elegiac]

If that is what you wish to believe more power to you. I don't really know how to argue faith well.

Then don't, and don't pretend that a fundamentally faith based position should be taken with any seriousness when it runs contrary to actual fact.

[Krakan]

Its always best when the person who doesn't understand anything doesn't try to speak for others. I get that you don't understand, but your experience is hardly global.

I don't know how to respond to this.

[Felya]

If what you said was true I doubt there would be this level of worry or fear. Much has changed in even my short time on this earth and it could just as easily change back and the reason for it changing will be the same passion filled arguements that had it change.

The worry and fear are your bubble... plenty of people are not seeing the burning cities. Plenty of people are seeing the Ukrainian flag on police arms, in pictures pretending it’s US, pushed by corrupt politicians.

The reality, there is no going back. It’s no longer the will of the people, but an authoritarian decree. It’s the representation of incompetent government and the ability to skirt issues, in the name of power. They can make any law they want, the people are not going away. They will be there to justify fighting persecution. Even Machiavelli wasn’t stupid enough to claim attacking a minority, that has majority support, has political advantages.

I don't believe it should at least not all of it I admit to have some issues with a specific group I believe is handled poorly but it breaches the forums rules so I can get into specifics via PMs if you feel I need to clarify.

When there is talk of removing rights, it’s pretty clear who the group is... the one losing rights... the ones who can hold a marriage ceremony in a church, but won’t be able to get a government issued marriage license.

I don't know where the middle ground will be if I am honest. It's easy to see the other sides sins but they are peering at yours. Under democrat control we have seen cities burn and murders that shouldnt of been allowed to happen aided by the chaos.

Any middle ground is injustice, that’s why you need to claim cities are burning. Name a city that’s burning and I will provide empirical evidence you are being lied to. If Seattle is burning, how is Amazon, Microsoft and Nintendo of America still functioning? How can Microsoft release a new gen XBox from Redmond, when across 520, the city is on fire? How can Amazon hold a prime sale day, when their campus occupying around 20% of Seattle, is on fire? Have you heard of Wallstreet, as NYC burns?

They are galvanized I honestly don't know how far they can push public outrage currently.

Who is galvanized? Trump couldn’t even get majority if the voting Americans last time.

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I don't know how to respond to this.

He is saying that the pictures pushed by the White House and their cronies, seem to contain police with Ukrainian flags on their arms... in Portland, Seattle and NYC... while even architecture on those shots, seem distinctly Slavic... strange...

[Draco-Onis]

The only difference between what you are saying and what a conservative would is who pushed who.

I don't really need to list off names when you instantly know the issue at hand. You can play the it's both sides game but as an outsider it rings a bit hollow to me at the very least.

I don't know what the future will bring but if I had to guess I believe conservatives will win this bout and stack the supreme court.

Oh that is a forgone conclusion that conservatives will have a 6-3 majority on the court but in doing so they are cementing their own demise. The 5-4 majority was already giving them everything they wanted within reason but they have lost reason which is why they have chosen a nut case like Barrett.