Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

Hey Breccia, did we cover this?



https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...863610368?s=19

New information I believe. So this is frightening. This means our possible President's debt would be up for bid. No joke. A country I believe could purchase this. We sort of discussed this numerous times but now more true than ever.

What are the odds Putin would buy it if Trump wins today, just to watch the colossal shitstorm that will follow?

[Themius]

Black Lives Matter will eradicate the suburbs....

Have I been setup into agreeing with the right wing?

I don’t think blm can do that.

[Fugus]

What are the odds Putin would buy it if Trump wins today, just to watch the colossal shitstorm that will follow?

And what makes you think Putin didn't already own it? Remember which bank we are talking about here.

[Breccia]

Trump signes Executive Order Fallout 76:

In recent years, a series of polemics grounded in poor scholarship has vilified our Founders and our founding. Despite the virtues and accomplishments of this Nation, many students are now taught in school to hate their own country, and to believe that the men and women who built it were not heroes, but rather villains. This radicalized view of American history lacks perspective, obscures virtues, twists motives, ignores or distorts facts, and magnifies flaws, resulting in the truth being concealed and history disfigured. Failing to identify, challenge, and correct this distorted perspective could fray and ultimately erase the bonds that knit our country and culture together.

Parents and local school boards must be empowered to achieve greater choice and variety in curriculum at the State and local levels.

Viewing America as an irredeemably and systemically racist country cannot account for the extraordinary role of the great heroes of the American movement against slavery and for civil rights. Thus it is necessary to provide America’s young people access to what is genuinely inspiring and unifying in our history, as well as to the lessons imparted by the American experience of overcoming great national challenges. This is what makes possible the informed and honest patriotism that is essential for a successful republic.

"Oh, so the E.O. lays out a specific curriculum?"

No, it sets up a commission to find one in a year or so.

"And it covers the full details of how most of the Founding Fathers were sl--"

Actually it seems to skip the parts where the Founding Fathers were anything other than amazing and had lots of black friends, always knew slavery was bad, and that racism is over. The end.

"Does it establish how this will affect private schools?"

It doesn't.

"Does it establish how this will affect public schools?"

It doesn't.

"Why didn't he do this four years ago?"

He wasn't losing an election because he supported Nazis and started race riots yet.

"So is the assumption that federal funds will be withheld unless this 'option' is mandatory?"

That's my view, but they can't actually spell that out without an actual list of topics to be covered. This is yet another announcement of "Trump is going to do something amazing any day now, just you wait!"

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What are the odds Putin would buy it if Trump wins today, just to watch the colossal shitstorm that will follow?

Putin doesn't throw money away on bad ideas. Maybe if he bought Trump before 2016 he --

And what makes you think Putin didn't already own it? Remember which bank we are talking about here.

Oh. Right.

[Bodakane]

I thank you pres Trump for many things, mostly for butthurt lefties <3
https://youtu.be/G87UXIH8Lzo
https://youtu.be/wrWzBg475Q8
https://youtu.be/p9esBun7-us

I bath in lefties tears ;D

The fact that you feel that way, means you're the villain in this story.

[Zan15]

Maybe we can get the U.N. to monitor our election. Because we are pretty much in third world dictator shenanigans at this point.

Haven't they sent people every election for like the last few decades?

[Breccia]

Trump explains the Texas thing.

You see the way our people, they, you know, they were protecting his bus yesterday. Because they are nice. They had hundreds of cars.

Not that I have to even say it, but, We Rate This Pants on Fire.

Also

Our Ruling

Trump’s TV ad said, "Joe Biden and Kamala Harrs’ government-run health care plan … could lead to hospitals being closed, put Medicare coverage at risk, and give benefits to illegal immigrants."

Biden has not called for only a government-run plan. He has called for a voluntary public option alongside private options.

The ad leaps to conclusions about how Biden’s plan would impact hospitals and Medicare coverage, relying largely on articles by groups that oppose the public option. Experts said Biden’s plan doesn’t include enough specifics to reach conclusions, but it’s a stretch to conclude that he would put Medicare coverage at risk. The study the campaign cited about the public option leading to rural hospital closures cites a huge range and makes some assumptions and also acknowledges that rural hospitals are already closing.

The only kernel here is that Biden’s plan allows immigrants here illegally to pay for health insurance, but it’s misleading to state that he would "give" them the benefits.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

The "super predators" thing is still false.

Our Ruling

Biden said, "I’ve released 22 years of my tax returns. You can go online and look. (Donald Trump) hasn’t released one."

Biden’s federal tax returns from 2019 dating back to 1998 are available online, as he claimed. The most recent returns are highlighted on his campaign website. Others can be found on the websites for the Obama White House and the 2008 Obama presidential campaign.

Trump has not publicly released his tax returns, making him the only president or major-party presidential nominee in decades who has not done so.

We rate Biden’s claim True.

Trump lies all the time about everything.

[Beazy]

I don’t think blm can do that.

How could they even if they wanted to?

[YUPPIE]

Catching Corona and Freezing to death to own the libs?

trump has a few points here, all of which he has mentioned

1. the world needs to retaliate against China for this virus already, and he promises to do this if he's re-elected. Biden has too, but Trump has a fiercer personality to keep these kinds of promises

2. lockdowns have to end and people have to get back on track ASAP or the economy will soon collapse. People think Trump encouraging this is bad but look at the reality of people not wanting to work anymore

[szechuan]

1. the world needs to retaliate against China for this virus already, and he promises to do this if he's re-elected. Biden has too, but Trump has a fiercer personality to keep these kinds of promises

Retaliating against China for mishandling the Virus is dumb and stupid.

2. lockdowns have to end and people have to get back on track ASAP or the economy will soon collapse. People think Trump encouraging this is bad but look at the reality of people not wanting to work anymore

Many lockdowns have already ended, Biden will actually listen to Scientists on Lockdowns and Precautions unlike the Anti-Science shill Trump who also Lied to Americans about the Virus and is still claiming it's just a flu.

the economy will soon collapse.

Trump is currently President
Trump collapsed the Economy because he lied to the American people while China was already warning about the Dangers of the Coronavirus.

[Fuiking]

trump has a few points here, all of which he has mentioned

1. the world needs to retaliate against China for this virus already, and he promises to do this if he's re-elected. Biden has too, but Trump has a fiercer personality to keep these kinds of promises

2. lockdowns have to end and people have to get back on track ASAP or the economy will soon collapse. People think Trump encouraging this is bad but look at the reality of people not wanting to work anymore

*facepalm* ... yeah lets have Coronie make more victims.

[Jotaux]

but Trump has a fiercer personality to keep these kinds of promises

How so, didn't he just lose a trade war to China and was too cowardly to enforce the things they did agree on? Isn't China just doing what it wants because it knows it has Trump by the balls?

[Felya]

the world needs to retaliate against China for this virus already, and he promises to do this if he's re-elected. Biden has too, but Trump has a fiercer personality to keep these kinds of promises

Who is going to punish Trump for lying to American people? Last I checked, Trump has money in China and has spent more on taxes in China, than US. You think China will show footage of Trump praising them for handling Corona and only blaming them, after he failed to do anything? After spending 100s of million of chloroquine? China never said it would be over by Easter... never claimed it’s like the flu... and sure as hell never suggested injecting bleach as a cure...

lockdowns have to end and people have to get back on track ASAP or the economy will soon collapse. People think Trump encouraging this is bad but look at the reality of people not wanting to work anymore

What economy are you going to have with people dying and getting sick? This is lunacy... we will not risk the lives of Americans to keep wallstreet and billionaires profiting... we are not on lock down and never were... we never had a national response... the economic collapse was with Trump’s inaction.

[Breccia]

people have to get back on track ASAP or the economy will soon collapse.

That sounds like admission Trump has let the economy nearly collapse.

[Felya]

How so, didn't he just lose a trade war to China and was too cowardly to enforce the things they did agree on? Isn't China just doing what it wants because it knows it has Trump by the balls?

His kept promises don’t even make sense... there is no wall... the economy is in shambles... there is no healthcare plan... there is no infrastructure week... there is nothing that Trump promised actually happening. Everything just got a lot worse...

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That sounds like admission Trump has let the economy nearly collapse.

They are just ignoring that there is no immunity... because Trump is a better doctor, than anyone else.

[YUPPIE]

If Trump is so keen to retaliate why hasn’t he done so already? Show me the people who don’t want to work.

1. we obviously have our own problems right now. And China being a nuclear power doesn't make it easy. In fact, on top of their current geopolitical atrocities, it has raised the question of how much such a nation armed with WMDs can get away with.

2. it's complicated. There are thousands upon thousands of people that don't want to go out and work anymore. On the other hand, there are as much people that don't give a fuck and go anyways. Day by day COVID cases rises as a result, but Trump has said such compromises are necessary. I assume he means the virus will just fade out to herd immunity.

[Felya]

@YUPPIE here is a prediction... all of the scientist and doctors Trump is ignoring or straight up fighting, will leave. If you like them replaced by businessmen and politicians... because they keep you from panicking by lying... you’ll get your wish...

[szechuan]

2. it's complicated. There are thousands upon thousands of people that don't want to go out and work anymore. On the other hand, there are as much people that don't give a fuck and go anyways. Day by day COVID cases rises as a result, but Trump has said such compromises are necessary. I assume he means the virus will just fade out to herd immunity.

Herd Immunity without a Vaccine will burden the Hospitals, including all the Permanent Life Long Damage the Virus can cause, it's a stupid idea from an idiotic president who doesn't know what he's doing, it's not a Compromise for anything, it's yet another example of an uneducated Anti-Science Moron President.

[Felya]

it's complicated. There are thousands upon thousands of people that don't want to go out and work anymore. On the other hand, there are as much people that don't give a fuck and go anyways. Day by day COVID cases rises as a result, but Trump has said such compromises are necessary. I assume he means the virus will just fade out to herd immunity.

There is no herd immunity... Trump is not a doctor or scientist... wtf?

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Herd Immunity will burden the Hospitals, it's a stupid idea from an idiotic president who doesn't know what he's doing, it's not a Compromise for anything, it's just stupid.

There is no such thing... people are getting reinfected... the immunity is for a very short period of time.

[Breccia]

I assume he means the virus will just fade out to herd immunity.

I'm going to give you ten minutes to declare if you think this approach will work, right now, or not. You may not say "well when we get a vaccine--" because you just said lockdowns need to end.

EDIT: Time's up.