Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Wildberry]

Crazy how Leftists really love to shoehorn Child Porn analogies into entirely unrelated discussions. @Endus are you doing alright?

[Krakan]

I really only blame these platforms in the sense that they should have killed this movement in its cradle. Frankly, a lot of them trusted in the same ideology as if screaming conspiracy theories could ever be reasoned with by actual facts. Now the goons radicalized on their platforms are running around screaming about made up enemies and the fucking Minority Speaker is complaining about bots being deleted from conservative accounts in the days after he had to run and hide from an insurrectionist mob.

I'm waiting to see if this percolates down and kills the appetite for this kind of meatheaded content. If it doesn't this is going to be a long, long fight.

They couldn't if they tried. It's been building for over a decade now. It's just the start of the pendulum swinging to the other side. Do you recall the lighting speeds lgbt were recognized in the 2000s? Expect to see something similar coming from the right in this decade.

It's just the wheel turning.

[Edge-]

They couldn't if they tried. It's been building for over a decade now. It's just the start of the pendulum swinging to the other side. Do you recall the lighting speeds lgbt were recognized in the 2000s? Expect to see something similar coming from the right in this decade.

It's just the wheel turning.

What oppressed minority on the right is gonna get some legal recognition and protections in the next decade?

Incels?

[Santti]

Crazy how Leftists really love to shoehorn Child Porn analogies into entirely unrelated discussions. @Endus are you doing alright?

I see someone went for a little fishing trip to find something to point at.

And all you found was an old boot. Sad!

[sirmixalot]

Crazy how Leftists really love to shoehorn Child Porn analogies into entirely unrelated discussions. @Endus are you doing alright?

About as crazy as conservatives finding pedo rings in pizza places.

[Krakan]

What oppressed minority on the right is gonna get some legal recognition and protections in the next decade?

Incels?

Nah they will push their own agendas to my knowledge the right in America doesn't really do racial politics. I'm not really sure what they will push for much like I couldn't tell you what the left would of pushed a decade ago. If you told me they would push hard to allow prepubescent children to get sex changes I wouldn't of taken you seriously during the lgbt marriage days.

[Wildberry]

I see someone went for a little fishing trip to find something to point at.

And all you found was an old boot. Sad!

Yeah, naturally the last time I tried discussing an actual issue with Endus, I drifted into the "Not allowed to talk about that" territory. Instead of risking that again, I figure I might as well ask why this seems to be the go-to analogy. Him, Vaush, etc.

Odd fixation, that's all.

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About as crazy as conservatives finding pedo rings in pizza places.

Yeah, I agree those people are kooky. Granted, it's kind of hard to blame them. They rightfully distrust traditional media & it's not like Epstein got fair coverage. (Yes, I dislike his association with Trump, too. So you can skip straight ahead to the next low-effort reply)

[Howel]

They couldn't if they tried. It's been building for over a decade now. It's just the start of the pendulum swinging to the other side. Do you recall the lighting speeds lgbt were recognized in the 2000s? Expect to see something similar coming from the right in this decade.

It's just the wheel turning.

Just the wheel turning? Gays were given legal protection, right to marry, and generally pushed as being just as normal as the rest of us. And supposedly the opposite of that is staging a coup, becoming vile people who encourage violence, boldface lying and generally being an asshole towards anyone that doesn't kneel to the moral code set forth.

How are those two even remotely close to the same? How is that turning a wheel, and not taking the wheel off its axel and pushing it down the entire street?

[Wildberry]

becoming vile people who encourage violence, boldface lying and generally being an asshole towards anyone that doesn't kneel to the moral code set forth.

I can't believe the right did this, that's so horrible!

[Machismo]

Yeah, naturally the last time I tried discussing an actual issue with Endus, I drifted into the "Not allowed to talk about that" territory. Instead of risking that again, I figure I might as well ask why this seems to be the go-to analogy. Him, Vaush, etc.

Odd fixation, that's all.

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Yeah, I agree those people are kooky. Granted, it's kind of hard to blame them. They rightfully distrust traditional media & it's not like Epstein got fair coverage. (Yes, I dislike his association with Trump, too. So you can skip straight ahead to the next low-effort reply)

It's not hard to blame people who buy into bullshit conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence.

They are the ones pushing fake news, they are the ones who Think Qanon is the path to follow.

So, keep shilling for those shitbirds.

[Wildberry]

It's not hard to blame people who buy into bullshit conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence.

I'm sure your definition of "conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence" would similarly cover crazy Flat Earth-type lunacy like "Systemic Racism," correct?

[sirmixalot]

I'm sure your definition of "conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence" would similarly cover crazy Flat Earth-type lunacy like "Systemic Racism," correct?

Speaking of low effort.

[Howel]

I can't believe the right did this, that's so horrible!

Have anything to actually say, other than childish "no you!"?

[Wildberry]

Speaking of low effort.

It's not my fault you happen to be in a cult that dismisses evidence which debunks their preferred theory of explaining the world. It's not too late to turn back, you can always come to me for help. I would really suggest skimming through some peer-reviewed papers relevant to these sweeping claims those people make. There are some truly enlightening ones about the Criminal Justice System!

I almost can't believe that there are people who are allowed to peddle blatant falsehoods like the idea that "African-Americans do drugs just as much as whites but are arrested for it more." It's actually really sad how far down this crazy rabbit hole some people go.

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Have anything to actually say, other than childish "no you!"?

Not really. If you don't get it, you never will. I'm sorry to say.

[Machismo]

I'm sure your definition of "conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence" would similarly cover crazy Flat Earth-type lunacy like "Systemic Racism," correct?

The Pedo Pizza Parlor was already brought up... as was the conspiracy theories about all the election fraud that didn't actually happen.

Systemic racism does have evidence backing it.

https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...399/w22399.pdf

Man, you cannot stop being wrong in order to shill for Nazis and conspiracy theorists.

[sirmixalot]

It's not my fault you happen to be in a cult that dismisses evidence which debunks their preferred theory of explaining the world. It's not too late to turn back, you can always come to me for help. I would really suggest skimming through some peer-reviewed papers relevant to these sweeping claims those people make. There are some truly enlightening ones about the Criminal Justice System!

I almost can't believe that there are people who are allowed to peddle blatant falsehoods like the idea that "African-Americans do drugs just as much as whites but are arrested for it more." It's actually really sad how far down this crazy rabbit hole some people go.

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Not really. If you don't get it, you never will. I'm sorry to say.

Now tell us how you really feel.

[Machismo]

It's not my fault you happen to be in a cult that dismisses evidence which debunks their preferred theory of explaining the world. It's not too late to turn back, you can always come to me for help. I would really suggest skimming through some peer-reviewed papers relevant to these sweeping claims those people make. There are some truly enlightening ones about the Criminal Justice System!

I almost can't believe that there are people who are allowed to peddle blatant falsehoods like the idea that "African-Americans do drugs just as much as whites but are arrested for it more." It's actually really sad how far down this crazy rabbit hole some people go.

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Not really. If you don't get it, you never will. I'm sorry to say.

I just provided a peer-reviewed study, please let me know when you are done with it.

[Howel]

Not really. If you don't get it, you never will. I'm sorry to say.

Yeah I am not interested in getting it, could give it to my dog though, it might actually stop being smart enough to open doors then.

[szechuan]

I'm sure your definition of "conspiracy theories that are not founded on evidence" would similarly cover crazy Flat Earth-type lunacy like "Systemic Racism," correct?

Yet another false equivalence, Systemic Racism is not a Conspiracy, Flat Earth is.

[Endus]

Crazy how Leftists really love to shoehorn Child Porn analogies into entirely unrelated discussions. @Endus are you doing alright?

Because it's the worst possible thing that's censored that I feel we'd both agree upon as being vile and worth censoring.

It's really not that complicated, and the insinuation you're trying to draw regarding me completely ignores my motive in using that particular example.

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This is the perfect example of intolerance for any other opinion except your own - and the only right one. Nowhere I told that I am opposed to equitable treatment of these minorities, I am opposed to propaganda of their values and giving preferences to them. Equality is about equality, right?

The idea that those minorities are getting favourable treatment is white supremacist fearmongering, not reality.

It always goes like this;

"Hey, LGBT people should be allowed to marry their life partners just like hetero couples."
"We can't give them SPECIAL RIGHTS! They can marry the opposing gender like the rest of us!"
"You get how you're describing the status quo as a special preference, rather than equality, and all we're asking for is equality, right?"
"NO SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR THE UNCLEAN!"

Every single time. They don't have an argument. They've just internalized supremacy as normalcy, so any move for equality seems like special privileges for the minority groups, to them. It pretty much never is.

Child porn is clear example of physical violence towards other people, especially children. When 'equality' is widely definited term, which everyone can interpret as they wish - which we're seeing for the last 10 years or so. It is you who change and abuse terms here.

First, you mean "harm", as distinct from "violence". There's a lot of harms that aren't actually violent. Grooming a child to be exploited is often largely non-violent; no actual hitting or injury is necessary.

Second, if we can agree on "harm", that same standard applies to bigotry, directly. So you've demonstrated there's no changing of terms.

In fact, shameful terms of Versaille treaty and excess punishment of Germans after WW1 led to social demand for someone like Nazis and 3rd Reich. Try to read some history first.

Horsecock.

"The Nazis were a natural reaction" is Nazi propaganda, plain and simple.

One example: let's imagine that I am employer. How my opinion, that I should choose people who I want to hire depending on their professional competency and not on their skin color or sex orientation, harms others? And we know that some gay man that I refused to hire can always raise noise on social media that I refused him just because he is gay. Then I will have to explain myself, but I will already be a villain in the eyes of many many people and my reputation will suffer. It is real example btw. How my opinion that all lives matter harms others? How my refuse to bend the knee to blacks, just because I am white and some white people 200 years ago who were not even my ancestors harmed some black people, harms these blacks? I can give plenty more examples.

It isn't a real example. It's fearmongering nonsense. Diversity hiring doesn't expect any employer to hire someone unqualified.

And if white candidates are constantly "more qualified" for the position, well. That says it right there, doesn't it?