Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

**Belize** · 2021-01-19, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Zaktar

Dead link. This one? https://twitter.com/KateNocera/statu...97019516772357

Of all the "bruh" moments, this one might have peaked.

**Zaktar** · 2021-01-19, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Belize

Of all the "bruh" moments, this one might have peaked.

On the plus side, this improves the chances that you'll be able to vote directly from your pillow someday.

**Kaleredar** · 2021-01-19, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Belize

There's a non-zero chance a few were arrested after DC.

Man that would be weird to hear. Like hearing that that one poster on here was arrested for possessing child... uh... stuff.

**PACOX** · 2021-01-19, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by Zaktar

Dead link. This one? https://twitter.com/KateNocera/statu...97019516772357

I made a joke IRL that he was probably a Trump supporter without knowing much about him by certain phrases in his commercials. I had to do a double take when I saw him defending Trump.

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There's a story on CNN that's not worth thinking much about because a lot of its speculative but makes me want to shake my head if true. Basically it's saying that Schumer is allowing McConnell to bargain for power in the Senate. Enough power that his voice may carry some weight.

Maybe in an alt timeline where McConnell didn't play king by refusing to floor legislation at his discretion. Maybe where he didn't straight up deny Dems a voice. And it wasn't like Republicans had a huge majority.

You could talk me into some 'across the aisle' BS depending on the context but not with the current GOP in power, definitely not McConnell who upheld aid to Americans because of his ego or orchestrated the miscarriage of the first impeachment. He gets the scraps that do not make it into the trash.

**Kathranis** · 2021-01-19, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by PhaelixWW

So... <sigh> ...pet peeve here...

Why is it that people can't be bothered to at least copy and paste the text of a tweet here, rather than just linking the tweet?

FYI, the tweet has been deleted, so whatever point you were trying to get across is unclear, whereas if you'd quoted the tweet when you posted...

The board needs proper tweet embedding TBH.

Anyway, I look forward to the inevitable lawsuits against Trump and Giuliani.

**Breccia** · 2021-01-19, 04:03 AM

Walking shitstain on democracy Giuliani himself voted provisionally.

**RampageBW1** · 2021-01-19, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Breccia

Walking shitstain on democracy Giuliani himself voted provisionally.

So... Is Giuliani accusing himself of voter fraud, and that's why he is absolute certain that mass fraud occurred?

**Breccia** · 2021-01-19, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide

I read the first of these the other day, didn't realise they were coming so quickly.

Speaking of which, the fifth one is up now.

Episode 5: The secret CIA plan

Again, it's too long to fairly summarize. This paragraph will tell you whether you want to read the rest or not:

The ploy to rattle Haspel and perhaps intentionally trigger her resignation unfolded in a lurching and incompetent way, like a bad Monty Python skit, on one chaotic day in early December.

**Egomaniac** · 2021-01-19, 04:38 AM

So, when are the Republicans calling for "unity" going to put their money where their mouth is and apologize for pushing the election fraud conspiracy?

**Kaleredar** · 2021-01-19, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Egomaniac

So, when are the Republicans calling for "unity" going to put their money where their mouth is and apologize for pushing the election fraud conspiracy?

No no no, you see, their appeals for "unity" means that republicans want the democrats to stop being mean to them, stop reminding them of the stupid things they either supported or ignored that Trump did, and insist that the democrats need to work closer together with the policies republicans want.

**Breccia** · 2021-01-19, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Egomaniac

So, when are the Republicans calling for "unity" going to put their money where their mouth is and apologize for pushing the election fraud conspiracy?

Never.

Only a few of them were truly putting forth evidence they didn't have, claiming Stop the Steal etc. Most of the others, desperate to straddle the divide, said "well so many people are saying this, we need an investigation based purely on everyone saying we need an investigation".

That's enough of a loophole to claim they weren't actually wrong, weren't actually spouting conspiracy theories, or advocating insurrection.

**Endus** · 2021-01-19, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Egomaniac

So, when are the Republicans calling for "unity" going to put their money where their mouth is and apologize for pushing the election fraud conspiracy?

Probably never, meaning they don't actually give any shits about "unity". They're trying to subjugate, and this time, by passing the buck and shaming their opponents.

For healing and unity to come about in a circumstance like this, you first need for those who've done wrong to take ownership of their mistakes, take accountability for the harms they've done, and to make amends and apologies. And I separated the two because apologies alone are not sufficient.

In this case, that would mean the following, at a bare minimum;

1> Acknowledge that Trump was an indefensible pick in 2016, and their support from then through today was a mistake.
2> That they, personally, are partially responsible for the damage done as a result of that support.
3> That any Trump supporters who broke the law should be charged strongly. That includes all Trump's compatriots and Trump himself, for their actions throughout the administration, and all those who broke into the Capitol on January 6 at Trump's behest. At a minimum. No pardons. No passes.
4> That any member of the House of Representatives or Senate who in any respect supported or assisted or defended the January 6 attack, either leading up to it or particularly during and after, should be summarily removed from their positions and barred from service in such positions for life, under Amendment 14, Section 3 of the Constitution.
5> Apologize to everyone else in America for their actions and conduct.

Once they've done that, then we can start to talk about healing and unity. If they won't, they're not interested in unity, they're interested in victory and they're hoping they can shame their opponents into concessions. Don't fall for that horse shit.

**Egomaniac** · 2021-01-19, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kaleredar

No no no, you see, their appeals for "unity" means that republicans want the democrats to stop being mean to them, stop reminding them of the stupid things they either supported or ignored that Trump did, and insist that the democrats need to work closer together with the policies republicans want.

Originally Posted by Breccia

Never.

Only a few of them were truly putting forth evidence they didn't have, claiming Stop the Steal etc. Most of the others, desperate to straddle the divide, said "well so many people are saying this, we need an investigation based purely on everyone saying we need an investigation".

That's enough of a loophole to claim they weren't actually wrong, weren't actually spouting conspiracy theories, or advocating insurrection.

Originally Posted by Endus

Probably never, meaning they don't actually give any shits about "unity". They're trying to subjugate, and this time, by passing the buck and shaming their opponents.

For healing and unity to come about in a circumstance like this, you first need for those who've done wrong to take ownership of their mistakes, take accountability for the harms they've done, and to make amends and apologies. And I separated the two because apologies alone are not sufficient.

In this case, that would mean the following, at a bare minimum;

1> Acknowledge that Trump was an indefensible pick in 2016, and their support from then through today was a mistake.
2> That they, personally, are partially responsible for the damage done as a result of that support.
3> That any Trump supporters who broke the law should be charged strongly. That includes all Trump's compatriots and Trump himself, for their actions throughout the administration, and all those who broke into the Capitol on January 6 at Trump's behest. At a minimum. No pardons. No passes.
4> That any member of the House of Representatives or Senate who in any respect supported or assisted or defended the January 6 attack, either leading up to it or particularly during and after, should be summarily removed from their positions and barred from service in such positions for life, under Amendment 14, Section 3 of the Constitution.
5> Apologize to everyone else in America for their actions and conduct.

Once they've done that, then we can start to talk about healing and unity. If they won't, they're not interested in unity, they're interested in victory and they're hoping they can shame their opponents into concessions. Don't fall for that horse shit.

I probably should have added a [Rhetorical] Tag

**beanman12345** · 2021-01-19, 02:36 PM