Well that would have being as you said IF:
1) Alliance wasnt constantly shown as pathetic, inept and incapable of even self-defense.
2) Horde players will claim that Alliance is just as bad or even worse then the horde regardless and so people cant really enjoy that status since it either depends on your personal point of view of morality or can be endlessly disputed like the dude below just did by appealing to “but you kill kobolds in droves”.
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Hey. Would that be “totally rad” to Void the Sunwell and have Silvermoon sucked into the Void like that floating island of void elves? Also it will have FLYING then. One small detail - all blood elves there will either die in horrible agony or go void elf and join Alliance and be completely loyal to the cause.
My question is : why is the human king always the alliance leader? Makes little to no sense to me.
Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos was the game that brought me into gaming. I was 17 years old then, I abhorred gaming before this game. From then on, I became a fan of Warcraft and Blizzard. To see it all go down the drain like this is truly sad for me. No king rules forever but at least some of them went down in history as real badasses. I hoped Blizzard and Warcraft would be one of them but it is no longer possible.
Genocide is genocide, since the Alliance already does it there is no reason for some of their ranks to commit a massacre against the horde here and there, thus fleshing out a decent cycle of hatred, instead of this wishy washy nonsensical garbage.
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Humans are easier to write
I can start arguing on why kobolds are different from “civilised” races of Azeroth and why we actually take quests from those of “beast” races who are not mindlessly aggressive but that seems pointless here.
And genocide of a horde race? In a same root as Teldrassil was? Sure. Just dont expect an ounce more then what Alliance got out of that. You will get like, a pinch of retribution on a whole loaf of depression and humiliation.
As a fellow Night Elf, I concur!
He broke Varian's promise to end the Horde would they fail to uphold honor again (Siege of Orgrimmar)
Also he dishonored Varian's last written words to him...
"I now believe as you do, that peace is the nobelest aspiration. But to preserve it, YOU MUST BE WILLING TO FIGHT!"
Taken from the Legion cinematic trailer.
Anduin just shits on his father's memory. He IS indeed a disgrace to the house Wrynn.
1) The Nightelves would be refugees because of Sylvanas and the Horde. End of story. The High King did not destroy their home. Stop trying to deflect. Darkshore is even retaken now, but they can't live there anymore. No way to regrow that World Tree.
2) The Nightelves are not refugees since they just went to the other World Tree in the north and live there now, according to Shadow's Rising. Thanks to Sylvanas they won't need much room anymore. Yes there are still some NPCs called "refugee" in SW, I know. These will be removed when there is a revamp of the Kalimdor map and the Nelfs get a capital again. Canonically they moved, the game just hasn't caught up with that change because we are worrying about reality being destroyed atm.
3) The Alliance wasn't in a position to retake Gilneas for quite a while. Too many cosmic threats and too many mad Warchiefs allying with said cosmic threats. Genn seems to understand this, else he would hardly be at Anduin's side and Tess is probably extremely relieved she does not have to go back to a life as princess.
They are just the easiest example, civilized races are butchered as well, like Vrykul and Naga, the latter having one of the most advanced civilization on the planet
I don't give a fuck about the factions as they are, Horde and Alliance are non entities and meaningless, its members devoid of motives or real interaction, I would love to see them collapse at one point, then have a timeskip of a few centuries, creating new ones with a vastly different roster.And genocide of a horde race? In a same root as Teldrassil was? Sure. Just dont expect an ounce more then what Alliance got out of that. You will get like, a pinch of retribution on a whole loaf of depression and humiliation.
In essence I care for a overarching consistent story, which currently does not exist.
Remember, in WoW Gameplay is always more important to the game designers than the lore or roleplay (sadly).
I think the only reason why they force stormwind with their stupid king wiliam lion theme all over our faces as the main city with a portal room, and center the "lore" around this is that they tried to have multiple cities in the first expansion and ended up with ghost cities.
If they would start to make alliance and horde less human / orc centric, they need to give people an actual reason to hang out in let's say "teldrassil 2" (lol) or undercity 2
You quest there, you leave there, and you never come back outside of nostalgia.
But I understand it is hard to design a game about multiple main cities when you do want actually cities with live in there and not just ghost towns.
The warfronts were a point in the right direction but then sucked because the gameplay was too easy, repepetive and stupid. But this kind of stuff should be made again but this time with good gameplay.
Give people a reason to be anywhere, or like blizzard would say it "it is fun" to be in city XYZ
Anduin did not retaken Ashenvale which he could have done. He didnt even tried diplomacy to achieve that.
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Vrykul start most fights like that and worship objectively evil entities from Lich King to Helya.
Naga are old god servants and it was alluded that they bear old god taint from birth which makes them evil in a same way Black Dragons (corrupted) are.
Another Night Elf main here, waiting to see the disgrace of a King taken apart for his treason.
A few threads ago, someone referred to the short story 'Elegy' as 'Fuck you, Night Elves.' It pretty much sums up Blizzards writing of the races outside of Humans. It's almost as if they have to be dumbed down or forced to make obvious mistakes to make the humans look good.
Anduin's role seems to have been to be a walking clique, wise beyond his years, spider sense warning him when he's about to make a bad decision, beat your swords into plough shares and hope the light will protect you when the big bad horde come stomping through.
I'm sure Magni loved Anduin, same for Velen and Aunty Jaina, but you've got to think after all their collective experience they should recognise the malleable boy King is not ready for such leadership.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
I don't feel that way. We won all conflicts with the Horde and kept the moral high ground on top. No matter how depraved their methods get, we beat them every time in the end.
We have much better characters, so much so that many Hordes feel the constant need to claim them for themselves (like Alleria and Valeera), while they fall over themselves crying about the characters they have (Baine).
All in all it's pretty nice being Alliance. Would be even better if the Horde wouldn't be allowed to torch our cities every 2 years, but that is just what they are.
Oh yes they do. It's adorable. They are wrong of course, but that truth wouldn't get into their heads if you pounded it in with Bolvar's hammer. I suppose it makes them feel better to believe this nonesense. Who likes to be on the wrong side after all.
See this is one of the things that irks me the most, alongside can do no bad Anduin, with the "current" writing.
Everything the Alliance does gets a pass because it would tarnish it. So the Horde does not exist for anything other than a foil to further the Alliance centric plot.
However the overall perception is that the game is heavily Horde favored.
This makes absolutely no sense.