The Great Push - New Mythic+ Tournament

[Sanguinerd]

Go play FF14 if you want a casual MMO how about that?

Or Blizz could just accept that WoW and esports doesn't work, how about that?

[Thage]

Please stop trying to make this game into a competition.

Fun for those who participate, but for the rest it creates silly meta playstyles enforced on people which make no sense for people below 20+ keys.

Pretty much this. I haven't ever seen people in General, Trade, or LFG talking about how excited they are to see the next MDI match, or how they hope to one day get into the MDI and win big. WoW is just not a game well-oriented toward eSports, and Blizzard has been trying to push rope on this for over a decade now ever since they tried getting people hyped up with Arena eSports (I have always felt sorry for the poor fucks hired to commentate Arena and MDI eSports because that shit sounds like the kind of thing that would make me consider the pros and cons of a lobotomy via ballpoint pen).

WoW doesn't work as an eSport because there's no sense of balance. eSports are interesting when the meta allows for numerous strategies and picks, turning it into a game of feints and feeling out the other team's ability. eSports in games like WoW and Overwatch are Cookie Cutter Meta Team A versus Cookie Cutter Meta Team B almost unanimously. There's a reason Blizzard's eSports have been in freefall while LoL, CS:GO, and COD remain strong performers, and the harder they try to shove a square peg into a round hole, the worse their games suffer for it.

Dungeons have become boring and uninspired in terms of map design. Very rarely does a modern WoW dungeon feel like an enemy stronghold or a location that could be out there in the world, they feel like maps that have been designed with performance in eSports in mind. This is best exemplified with The MOTHERLODE!!, a literal circle with boss chambers along the way. Blizzard's modern dungeon design philosophy has been so exceptionally uninspiring that I can't be assed to push into Mythic anymore, not only because they skullfucked drop rates and how much gear you get from the weekly chest, but also because it doesn't feel like I'm pushing into enemy territory, it feels like I should be discussing with my team whether to peek banana.

[Samuraijake]

Pretty much this. I haven't ever seen people in General, Trade, or LFG talking about how excited they are to see the next MDI match, or how they hope to one day get into the MDI and win big. WoW is just not a game well-oriented toward eSports, and Blizzard has been trying to push rope on this for over a decade now ever since they tried getting people hyped up with Arena eSports (I have always felt sorry for the poor fucks hired to commentate Arena and MDI eSports because that shit sounds like the kind of thing that would make me consider the pros and cons of a lobotomy via ballpoint pen).

WoW doesn't work as an eSport because there's no sense of balance. eSports are interesting when the meta allows for numerous strategies and picks
also because it doesn't feel like I'm pushing into enemy territory, it feels like I should be discussing with my team whether to peek banana.

u sayin u dont like to watch DH + fire mage + ww all day on both teams all day through the entire competition?

[jackofwind]

M+ above 15 is not casual in the same way as mythic raids are not casual.
M+ is the best thing added to wow ever, it gives people something hard to do of their raid hours, makes dungeons viable again and you can do it in a tight group of friends or complete pug.

Vomit. Time-based difficulty is boring and contrived.

[rhorle]

So they bringing something new like this in on the heels of they just laid people off that would have promoted it? Lol

The e-sports people were related to in-person events which won't be happening for a while because of COVID-19. They still retained those for online/remote e-sports. Weird how things work right?

[erifwodahs]

Vomit. Time-based difficulty is boring and contrived.

we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks

[rhorle]

#MilkThoseSheep

How can they milk something when it is free to enter? Maybe move on to some other game/venue to complain about if Blizzard is so terrible.

[GUZ]

I see these things and immediately think ha gheyyy

[kaintk]

dont they fired all the people from event like this and 1 month later , making another event like this ?

wth ?

[erifwodahs]

how soon until Torghast world competition:

gather your torghast teams and see who can get the most anima in 30 minutes

prize pool : $1500 dollars watch on youtube may 29th

#MilkThoseSheep #KotickYatch37 #Fire800MoreEmployees

So... blizzard is at fault for organizing free entry events with a prizepool? I mean they certainly are shits sometimes, like they MDI toy thing, but if you are going to bitch about this at least ask someone to help you out, because this is some 70 IQ shit.

[Samuraijake]

So... blizzard is at fault for organizing free entry events with a prizepool? I mean they certainly are shits sometimes, like they MDI toy thing, but if you are going to bitch about this at least ask someone to help you out, because this is some 70 IQ shit.

never said blizz was at fault for anything.

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dont they fired all the people from event like this and 1 month later , making another event like this ?

wth ?

yep sure do.

[Kumorii]

Actually sounds much better in theory than MDI.... Gonna watch and see, will be more fun to see pushing high keys rather than steamrolling "low" ones.

[Relapses]

Failing at creating an eSports scene is something Blizzard isn't new to.

And pointless impotent cynicism apparently isn't something you're unfamiliar with either. eSports event exposure is some of the easiest, low overhead marketing available to Blizzard, they'd be complete fucking morons to not at least try to tap into it at a competitive level. The MDI clearly isn't working as well as they would like so they're trying a different angle. A healthy eSports scene would only stand to enrichen the longterm stability of WoW but instead of even attempting to understand the underlying reasons for Blizzard to conduct these types of events instead you'd rather bitch about the fact that they're running their billion dollar gaming franchise without consulting you personally first. Get the fuck over yourself.

[Samuraijake]

we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks

technically mythic raids are timed on the basis that they have ... enrage "Timers"

[Kumorii]

20k prize pools. Valve is out there giving Dota 2 millions. Blizzard is really a joke now.

Valve? Isn't majority of the prize pool crowdfunded through the tournament shop stuff?

[Samuraijake]

Actually sounds much better in theory than MDI.... Gonna watch and see, will be more fun to see pushing high keys rather than steamrolling "low" ones.

youtube videos are already out for this kind of thing though.... right now... as we speak.

[Kumorii]

youtube videos are already out for this kind of thing though.... right now... as we speak.

Cool beans...

[jackofwind]

we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks

Encounter timers/enrages aren't the same thing at all as having the entire event timed which completely dictates the overall strategy meta and promotes stupid things like extensive pack-skipping and huge meme aoe pulls.

There is no non-timer focused challenging 5-man group content in the game, and Mythic Dungeons would have been vastly better system if they were focused on scaling levels of extremely unforgiving/demanding mechanics and didn't revolve around running against an arbitrary clock.

[Samuraijake]

Cool beans...

here you go +26.. enjoy that excitement you were looking for... hit replay a few times if you want


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsymjwHBBA

[Cæli]

if they want to make such an event cared about... multiply the price reward by x100