Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Lost controller]

Cool, so the issue is that the dude isn't jacked enough and you just decided to complain about the womunz on the force.

So again: What's your definition? Since there will always be someone bigger than an officer around, should cops just like, put our wanted ads for the biggest people in the county and hire them because apparently being big is an important qualification because a majority of the officers time will, I guess, be spent manhandling suspects?

This is some special shit, yo. Going from blatant sexism to pure fantasy.

I've not brought up sex though it seems to consume your thoughts. Yes there will always be a bigger man but this isn't a case of a super fit suspect but a wiry teen breaking free physically...

If cops are not fit they are unfit to be cops.

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I think I misunderstood your initial point, my bad.

The physical test might be too lenient, but do you think it should be changed so that one officer can subdue any other person on their own?

Any other? No. but it should be expected they can overpower the average person.

[ghotihook]

Wow, how fucking juvenile. It's because of people like you Skroe can no longer post here.

I didn't post the original link. Someone else did. I relied on that link for my statement. The link is in this thread.

Tell us again why we're responsible for you not reading a thread you're commenting on again? We're all dying to hear this.

When you make obvious false statements and you get called out on it, it should be very simple for you to prove it true. This is basic man.

[Lost controller]

You still haven't shown how any of the officers are not physically fit.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1381657719569010688

[Machismo]

That's not how facts work. The proving the accepted wrong is how it works.

They provided evidence. You demanded evidence for claims they didn't make.

[Felya]

If it's so easy just link it. Cause it's not there.

Origin:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...police_aer.pdf

Reaction:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/u...rce-study.html
https://scholar.harvard.edu/jfeldman...ootings-police
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/121494...shootings-data

[Machismo]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1381657719569010688

How are they not physically fit?

How fit do they need to be, since you seem to be the sole arbiter on such things?

[ghotihook]

Origin:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...police_aer.pdf

Reaction:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/u...rce-study.html
https://scholar.harvard.edu/jfeldman...ootings-police
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/121494...shootings-data

Not a single one of those have anything to do with what he stated...it shows racial inequality, but not that a murderer is more safe than a black man being pulled over...
I 100% agree the police are fucked up and it's not fair, but that's not what he stated.
Do I have to relink his option for you?

[Felya]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1381657719569010688

Showing a woman couldn’t tell the difference between a gun that weighs almost 4 times more than a taser, isn’t helping your point. Your evidence is showing that she was too strong to tell the difference between two objects, with 4 times the weight of each other.

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Not a single one of those have anything to do with what he stated...it shows racial inequality, but not that a murderer is more safe than a black man being pulled over...
I 100% agree the police are fucked up and it's not fair, but that's not what he stated.

It literally does... I am amazed that you read all that in a minute... kudos...

[ghotihook]

Showing a woman couldn’t tell the difference between a gun that weighs almost 4 times more than a taser, isn’t helping your point. Your evidence is showing that she was too strong to tell the difference between two objects, with 4 times the weight of each other.

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It literally does... I am amazed that you read all that in a minute... kudos...

Along with the race issue, where it's literally safer to have killed several people as a white person than to be pulled over for a traffic stop as a black person.

It does not. Reread his quote.

[Machismo]

It does not. Reread his quote.

I'm sure you enjoyed all that evidence!!!

[Felya]

It does not. Reread his quote.

You didn’t fucking read the 4 articles I linked, including the 3 articles referenced in the paper, to come to this conclusion. I know this for a fact... you didn’t even read the conclusion of the paper...

[cubby]

It literally does... I am amazed that you read all that in a minute... kudos...

He's the bestest. Probably time to let him go no this - he doesn't even want to read the links we provide, and he's already admitted that he doesn't read the threads he comments on.

This giving of assignments thing is sub-juvenile. Adorable, too.

[ghotihook]

You didn’t fucking read the 4 articles I linked, including the 3 articles referenced in the paper, to come to this conclusion. I know this for a fact... you didn’t even read the conclusion of the paper...

Oh yea I read where they compared a white multiple murder to a black man being pulled over like he said...oh wait...that doesn't exist...

[cubby]

It does not. Reread his quote.

Look who the liar really is - unless you're going to try and convince us that you read four articles, and their related articles, in under two minutes.

Guess your true colors finally showing.

[Felya]

I'm sure you enjoyed all that evidence!!!

They don’t even read the links you provide... that paper comes to a different conclusion than this thread has been saying for the last several pages. That’s the paper conservatives use to disregard the BLM... it’s why I used the 3 additional articles, one is a QnA and 2 more a rebuttals.

The main reason the paper has that conclusion, is because it bases it’s statistics, relative to amount of crimes committed. Ignoring the fact that black people are more likely to be stoped. As in, profiling is what gets those numbers to be even.

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Oh yea I read where they compared a white multiple murder to a black man being pulled over like he said...oh wait...that doesn't exist...

No, they just relate it to crime in general... you are free to extract the minute example of those being multiple time murderers. You take the stats I provided, divide them by the number of crimes committed, adjust it for population and you got your statistic. Because, no one will ever give you that statistic, since it serves no point.

Edit: The data is there... you want me to do the math for you? Link what you see as credible numbers of these multiple people murders...

[Machismo]

They don’t even read the links you provide... that paper comes to a different conclusion than this thread has been saying for the last several pages. That’s the paper conservatives use to disregard the BLM... it’s why I used the 3 additional articles, one is a QnA and 2 more a rebuttals.

The main reason the paper has that conclusion, is because it bases it’s statistics, relative to amount of crimes committed. Ignoring the fact that black people are more likely to be stoped. As in, profiling is what gets those numbers to be even.

Oh, I'm well aware of that paper. It's literally the most exhaustive study ever done on the issue of use of force by officers. That's not just my opinion, that's also the opinion of Nick Selby, a police officer and statistician who has literally written a book on the issue.

[ghotihook]

They don’t even read the links you provide... that paper comes to a different conclusion than this thread has been saying for the last several pages. That’s the paper conservatives use to disregard the BLM... it’s why I used the 3 additional articles, one is a QnA and 2 more a rebuttals.

The main reason the paper has that conclusion, is because it bases it’s statistics, relative to amount of crimes committed. Ignoring the fact that black people are more likely to be stoped. As in, profiling is what gets those numbers to be even.

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No, they just relate it to crime in general... you are free to extract the minute example of those being multiple time murderers. You take the stats I provided, divide them by the number of crimes committed, adjust it for population and you got your statistic. Because, no one will ever give you that statistic, since it serves no point.

Edit: The data is there... you want me to do the math for you? Link what you see as credible numbers of these multiple people murders...

Like I said before the system is fucked. Black people are disportionally killed by cops. I am all for police reform (especially being from Minneapolis...) But the statement he made has not been proven, That's it's less dangerous for white murders than a black man being pulled over.

[DarkTZeratul]

Like I said before the system is fucked. Black people are disportionally killed by cops. I am all for police reform (especially being from Minneapolis...) But the statement he made has not been proven, That's it's less dangerous for white murders than a black man being pulled over.

So what, you want a peer-reviewed analytic dissertation to back up a simple observation on a fucking gaming forum?

[ghotihook]

So what, you want a peer-reviewed analytic dissertation to back up a simple observation on a fucking gaming forum?

I want him to admit it's not true. And he has no proof that it is.

[Felya]

That's it's less dangerous for white murders than a black man being pulled over.

Are we talking about cops knowing the person is a murderer? Because if we are not, the statistic presented already show that you are more likely to be pulled over if you are black. If we are to agree that the odds of a person being pulled over, being a murderer, is the same across races. Than logically, a white murderer is more likely to get away with it, because they are less likely to be pulled over.