Punk rockers/anarchists and Libertarians, what is the difference?

[unfilteredJW]

I never expect authoritarians to agree with me.

It’s yet another term Machismo doesn’t understand.

[Endus]

Utilities have to be that way. Or you'll end up with a situation like texas during febuary. Or you'll have people paying 50% of their paycheck for water.

Also that services that aren't part of a market in the first place can't really be construed as "monopolies" to begin with. It's like claiming that police departments are a "monopoly".

[bladeXcrasher]

Or, you mean like government-backed monopolies like PG&E? I see we're back at the beginning.

Glad you are admitting utilizes are best to be public instead of privatized. Why though, are you supporting socialism? I thought you libertarians loved privatization and free markets?

[Machismo]

Name a single instance of a new competitor successfully upending a large monopoly. A link must be provided. A random acronym is insufficient.

Manitoba Hydro and Quebec Hydro. When I brought them up previously you ran away from them like a scared little kid.

This isn't my argument... try and keep up.

I simply pointed out that I don't know much bout Manitoba or Quebec.

Of course, I do know a lot about Flint...

[unfilteredJW]

Also that services that aren't part of a market in the first place can't really be construed as "monopolies" in the first place. It's like claiming that police departments are a "monopoly".

Wait for it.....

[Machismo]

It’s yet another term Machismo doesn’t understand.

I mean, I couldn't even get people to entertain the thought of not increasing government spending.

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Also that services that aren't part of a market in the first place can't really be construed as "monopolies" to begin with. It's like claiming that police departments are a "monopoly".

So, I don't get to count PG&E?

Interesting...

[Ivanstone]

This isn't my argument... try and keep up.

I simply pointed out that I don't know much bout Manitoba or Quebec.

Of course, I do know a lot about Flint...

Irrelevant. Answer the question. Or do you not actually know how capitalism deals with a monopoly?

True.

You really, really don't.

[Machismo]

Glad you are admitting utilizes are best to be public instead of privatized. Why though, are you supporting socialism? I thought you libertarians loved privatization and free markets?

Flint would like to have a chat.

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Irrelevant. Answer the question. Or do you not actually know how capitalism deals with a monopoly?

True.

You really, really don't.

It's your straw man.

[Ivanstone]

So, I don't get to count PG&E?

No. They're a for profit corporation that should've been slapped with an anti-trust suit or simply be state-run.

[Machismo]

No. They're a for profit corporation that should've been slapped with an anti-trust suit or simply be state-run.

They are a government-granted monopoly.

You mean like TEPCO? or like Flint?

[Ivanstone]

It's your straw man.

Its not a straw man. You like capitalism. You don't like monopolies. I'm of the opinion that capitalism will always default to monopolies. If you disagree explain why I'm wrong.

[Machismo]

Its not a straw man. You like capitalism. You don't like monopolies. I'm of the opinion that capitalism will always default to monopolies. If you disagree explain why I'm wrong.

Yep, so maybe you should ask me to back up the things I say, not the things you say.

"I think this, prove me wrong!!!"

[Ivanstone]

They are a government-granted monopoly.

You mean like TEPCO? or like Flint?

TEPCO is another publicly traded company who made free-market decisions.

You know nothing about Flint.

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Yep, so maybe you should ask me to back up the things I say, not the things you say.

"I think this, prove me wrong!!!"

I did. You said it was a straw man.

[Machismo]

TEPCO is another publicly traded company who made free-market decisions.

You know nothing about Flint.

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I did. You said it was a straw man.

Who is the majority owner of TEPCO? We've already covered this in class.

I know Flint was a huge example of government incompetence.

Great, this is your argument, not mine.

[Mayhem]

I support the existence of some government.

There, now you can stop with the narrative that I don't support any government or regulations.

I never claimed otherwise, you didn't read my post, did you? You just said nope and be done with it. Awkward.

[Machismo]

I never claimed otherwise, you didn't read my post, did you? You just said nope and be done with it. Awkward.

Well, its good we agree that regulations are not marketing, and that I do support government.

[bladeXcrasher]

Who is the majority owner of TEPCO? We've already covered this in class.

I know Flint was a huge example of government incompetence.

Great, this is your argument, not mine.

Individual investors. Do you ever backup the shit you post? Less than 3% is government owned.

[Machismo]

Individual investors. Do you ever backup the shit you post? Less than 3% is government owned.

The largest of which is... the Japanese Government. They own a controlling stake.

Those darn government-granted monopolies.

[downnola]

I support the existence of some government.

There, now you can stop with the narrative that I don't support any government or regulations.

Is there a country with some government and low spending that doesn't look like Venezuela, Yemen, Ethiopia, or Syria?

[Mayhem]

Well, its good we agree that regulations are not marketing, and that I do support government.

So that's it. Not going to explain your shit. Good, good. So my post stands as what your position is and will lead to, thanks for playing.

Hypocrite