No, it's a western one and has been so since about 1500.
Jane Elliot described the western attitude to skin color (what people try to call "race") best "white is right, brown's alright, yellow let mellow, black stay back."
No, it's a western one and has been so since about 1500.
Jane Elliot described the western attitude to skin color (what people try to call "race") best "white is right, brown's alright, yellow let mellow, black stay back."
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Do you not know anyone from Asia? Seriously. Talk to an Indian. Talk to someone from China. Talk to someone from Myanamar. Or even better, talk to someone from Bangladesh.
And lets not pick on the Asian continent. Talk to people from the Congo.....
Forget talking to people, pick up a god dam international newspaper.
In case this isn't what I suspect it to be (a bait post) I am genuinely curious where the hell you live, and where were you educated that you DON'T already know that racial segregation IS NOT just an English cultural feature - racial segregation is a HUMAN cultural feature.
Oh, are you talking about the racial segregation other than the slavery? Or did you just forget about that little oopsie doopsie?
First of all they were segregated
Apparently along with the moors, before they were expelled.We send to the aljamas of the said Jews and Moors: that each of them be put in said separation [by] such procedure and such order that within the said term of the said two years they [shall] have the said houses of their separation, and live and die in them, and henceforth not have their dwellings among the Christians or elsewhere outside the designated areas and places that have been assigned to the said Jewish and Moorish quarters.
Secondly, expelling a racial group from your country is segregation it is the most complete form of segregation.
Thirdly, A culture that practices racial segregation domestically is defacto a racially segregated culture everywhere
Fourthly, the Spanish and the French participated in the slave trade so yes they practised racial segregation in their colonies
Finally, the Casta is literally a formal form of segregation based around the 'purity of the blood'.
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Tonight for me is a special day. I want to go outside of the house of the girl I like with a gasoline barrel and write her name on the road and set it on fire and tell her to get out too see it (is this illegal)?
They were all fundamentally based in a cultural perception that humans could be organized in a hierarchy based on skin color, regardless of the degree to which those institutions reflected that.
Once again, it's not a competition because giving a particular empire the "#1 At Racism" trophy does fuck all to actually address systemic racism.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Well, if I have to explain to you that all this was about racial segregation, I guess you can't cope with this topic, I'm afraid.
That segregation you're talking about was common within the Iberian Peninsula during the Middle Ages and it was both ways (Christians were also segregated in Al-Andalus). But as I said, we are talking about COLONIALISM. Limit yourself to the topic and stop talking about things that hasn't got anything to do with it.
The Spanish Empire did not treat native Americans in the same way as British people did. Mixed marriages were allowed and they tried, probably not in the best way, to integrate them in their society, which is something British settlers NEVER DID. Read a bloody history book.
This is a forbidden topic and will be locked before long, but no big loss since the answer is "no" and there really isn't anything to discuss.
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You could have just Googled racial segregation and got your answer, but instead you had to make a controversial thread.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation
That's false, again. Some empires did not develop a racial segregated society and they tried to integrate the native population within their empire. Other empires never did that and they always put white people over the rest. So yes, there are levels and scales of colonialism and imperialism.
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You haven't got a clue about Spanish colonialism and British colonialism, have you? Casta? Encomienda? What are you talking about? Do you even know what encomienda was? It meant they treated the new land as an extension of their mainland and not as colonies. Spaniards tried to create a mixed race society. Besides, Spaniards weren't allowed to slave native Americans. You're saying that all that is worse than segregating them and treating them as slaves, not allowing mixed marriages?
You'd better educate yourself before talking about history, otherwise you'll show up as an ignorant.
"How to destroy an argument in one post" the stage show, the experience, based on the book of the film.
Wasn't your thesis that racial segregation was somehow a unique trait to the British empire? Now you're not only admitting it was common in spain but (rather racistly) also trying to deflect by saying it was a BOTH SIDES issue?
Not the same type of segregation is not the same thing as not segregation.
Seeing as how you have now conceded the existence of the Casta (a form of racial segregation) existed in the Spanish colonial system and racial segregation was also common in the iberian peninsula. I take it you seek to withdraw your argument?
EDIT I just remembered you dodged the Congo/Leopold issue.
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Tonight for me is a special day. I want to go outside of the house of the girl I like with a gasoline barrel and write her name on the road and set it on fire and tell her to get out too see it (is this illegal)?
Why are people still taking this obvious bait thread seriously?
“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” -- Donald J. Trump, 2013
"I don't take responsibility at all." -- Donald J. Trump, 2020
You haven't read my first post, have you? I was talking about the countries that stemmed from the British Empire and how racial segregation and racism is still a thing in those countries. I've never said there weren't other kind of segregations throughout history. What I was talking about is how racism and racial segregation has continued in those countries until nowadays. If you can't understand that simple thing, I can't help you, I'm afraid. I mean, it's quite simple to understand that I'm surprised you're not able to get it after 3 pages of discussion.
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Politically marginalizing and culturally erasing a native population is not any better than outright exterminating them.
Sit down.
No, it didn't. Stop lying.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi