Covid: schools reclosing

[Endus]

There's no science that says mandatory public school is optimal. It isn't. Learning from home or voluntarily attending school is what's optimal for their education.

This is just an obvious misanthropic lie. You have no basis in data or science for this claim. None. Because it's complete horseshit.

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I love America, even served overseas. Have you served your country?

This isn't a response to what Calfredd said, and has no bearing on anything being discussed.

Even if we believe you, and there's really little reason to. For instance; I'm the Pope. Call me Frank.

Anyone can claim anything on the Internet. Even if you did serve, it's meaningless, so why bother bringing it up? It doesn't make you any more patriotic than anyone else.

[Yuujin]

I love America, even served overseas. Have you served your country?

There are many reasons why you may have wanted to serve overseas that have nothing to do with loving your country.

For instance, you may hate brown people and revel at the idea of being able to ship overseas to kill them.
You may have failed academically and had no choice but the enter into the military to salvage your future.
You may have signed up for the National Guard thinking to make some easy money, only to find yourself being deployed overseas.

So, I'm not sure how you serving overseas proves your love for America.

[Santti]

I love America, even served overseas. Have you served your country?

/wanking motion.

Americans and their military, I swear.

You aren't special or noble for fucking up another country thousands of kilometers away from your national borders. It makes you a dick.

[BronzeCondor]

There are many reasons why you may have wanted to serve overseas that have nothing to do with loving your country.

For instance, you may hate brown people and revel at the idea of being able to ship overseas to kill them.
You may have failed academically and had no choice but the enter into the military to salvage your future.
You may have signed up for the National Guard thinking to make some easy money, only to find yourself being deployed overseas.

So, I'm not sure how you serving overseas proves your love for America.

I served because I love my country.

[Egomaniac]

America has not actually cared about teachers or any at or below that payscale for years. Not as a whole. It's why a lot of people or opting to just walk away, if they can somehow afford to do so.

Yeah, i should have said it's an extra fuck you to the teachers.

[szechuan]

I served because I love my country.

Yet you're content with Citizens in your country spreading an infectious deadly disease during a pandemic because of right wing Trumpist misinformation.

[Santti]

Yet you're content with Citizens in your country spreading an infectious deadly disease during a pandemic because of right wing Trumpist misinformation.

Nothing says love like infecting another with a disease. I guess?

Coincidentally, have you tried injecting yourself with a disinfectant, yet? Trump recommended it, OP. I'd recommend not to do it, because it's dumb, but I'm not Trump, so what the hell do I know?

[Yuujin]

I served because I love my country.

Doesn't seem so.

If you loved your country, you'd make the hard decision to give up some of your freedom's in the face of a pandemic to protect the lives of vulnerable Americans and push back against people within your own party who are encouraging behaviors that are killing off your countrymen. As someone who served in your country, you should know all about giving up some freedoms for the greater good.

You'd acknowledge the difference between Science and Politics, experts and politicians, the scientific community and the government, but instead you are intentionally combining the two to justify vaccine hesitance.

You'd stop trying to prop yourself up as being 'fearless' and implying that people who get vaccinated are 'afraid' or letting 'fear' control their lives when in reality the vaccinated are doing their part to protect their country for a deadly disease while the self proclaimed patriots are endangering and in some cases outright killing off fellow countrymen.

So please, don't pretend you love your country when it isn't your country at all that you love. No one is buying it and if you actually believe it? Oh man, do I feel sorry for you.

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Nothing says love like infecting another with a disease. I guess?

Coincidentally, have you tried injecting yourself with a disinfectant, yet? Trump recommended it, OP. I'd recommend not to do it, because it's dumb, but I'm not Trump, so what the hell do I know?

Exactly. I love my country! But I don't mind directly and indirectly killing her people by allowing people to spread misinformation.

[BronzeCondor]

Yet you're content with Citizens in your country spreading an infectious deadly disease during a pandemic because of right wing Trumpist misinformation.

If that's how you want to characterize it. If people want to get the vaccine, then that is their choice. If people want to over-react on fear porn, then that is their choice as well. It reminds me of a time when people were over-reacting to the post 9/11 fear porn that consumed the United States.

[Zaydin]

Just for the hell of it I will throw this in here.

No children who are San Francisco residents are currently hospitalized due to COVID-19, according to the city’s department of public health.

For the love of Christ, do not tempt fate.

[BronzeCondor]

Hopefully government officials will keep the public informed on developing events regarding COVID-19 and the vaccinations.

Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk.

“The message that breakthrough cases are exceedingly rare and that you don’t have to worry about them if you’re vaccinated — that this is only an epidemic of the unvaccinated — that message is falling flat,” Harvard epidemiologist Michael Mina told me in the long interview that follows below. “If this was still Alpha, sure. But with Delta, plenty of people are getting sick. Plenty of transmission is going on. And my personal opinion is that the whole notion of herd immunity from two vaccine shots is flying out the window very quickly with this new variant.”

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“The breakthrough problem is much more concerning than what our public officials have transmitted,” Topol continued. “We have no good tracking. But every indicator I have suggests that there’s a lot more under the radar than is being told to the public so far, which is unfortunate.” The result, he said, was a widening gap between the messaging from public-health authorities and the meaning of the data emerging in real time. “I think the problem we have is people — whether it’s the CDC or the people that are doing the briefings — their big concern is, they just want to get vaccinations up. And they don’t want to punch any holes in the story about vaccines. But we can handle the truth. And that’s what we should be getting.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...r-problem.html

[beanman12345]

Hopefully government officials will keep the public informed on developing events regarding COVID-19 and the vaccinations.

Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...r-problem.html

You sure showed everyone by linking an opinion piece. lul

but hey at least your not out here calling it a fake virus like some on your side, oh wait...

[BronzeCondor]

You sure showed everyone by linking an opinion piece. lul

If you care to scroll down, there is a Q&A with Harvard’s Michael Mina, Assistant Professor of Epidemiology, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health; Core Faculty, Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hii/peo...l-mina-md-phd/

[beanman12345]

If you care to scroll down, there is a Q&A with Harvard’s Michael Mina, Assistant Professor of Epidemiology, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health; Core Faculty, Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hii/peo...l-mina-md-phd/

Just finished reading that nonsense. You sure do love your fear porn. So much misinformation.

[starlord]

Hopefully government officials will keep the public informed on developing events regarding COVID-19 and the vaccinations.

Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...r-problem.html

i think the cdc is by necessity going to be a little slow to change their guidances, as things take time to verify beyond a doubt. but this would suggest that mask mandates & lockdowns in addition to vaccines are even more critical to slow the spread of covid.

[beanman12345]

i think the cdc is by necessity going to be a little slow to change their guidances, as things take time to verify beyond a doubt. but this would suggest that mask mandates & lockdowns in addition to vaccines are even more critical to slow the spread of covid.

Especially when you have as many people who are anti-mask and anti-vaxx freedumb peddlers.

[Progenitor Aquarius]

Another online academic year? Oh that’s great. At least I don’t have to take crap from my class mates when I get high grades. None knows what I am doing except professors. Perfect way to achieve everything!

[szechuan]

If people want to get the vaccine, then that is their choice.

Strawman.

If people want to over-react on fear porn, then that is their choice as well.

Yet people like you are ignoring the science and dangers from Leading Doctors, Physician-Scientists and Epidemiologists in the USA.

It reminds me of a time when people were over-reacting to the post 9/11 fear porn that consumed the United States.

False equivalence.

[Forogil]

The other thing is, even if we were to concede that Children are less likely to have serious complications from the disease, it's still a big "Fuck you" to all the teachers.

Are the teachers vaccinated?

If so the risk is low; especially for severe disease and death.
If not, and assuming they are not immuno-compromised, then you might question their credentials and what they actually teach.

[szechuan]

If so the risk is low; especially for severe disease and death.

The overwhelming majority of infections are going to be mild or asymptomatic in children.

Risk of Infection is not low, the Delta Variant is deadlier and much more contagious, and kids in the ICU is not just restricted to kids with underlying medical conditions or immunocompromised.


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...253250073.html