What's so good about FFXIV?

[Daffan]

I just rewatched it. Talk about overblown. Dude was upset, sure, but everyone around him was laughing and in high spirits. WTF are you talking about? To class that as "internal problems" is mind boggling.

smoke make fire just like Blizzard ))

[Graeham]

I just rewatched it. Talk about overblown. Dude was upset, sure, but everyone around him was laughing and in high spirits. WTF are you talking about? To class that as "internal problems" is mind boggling.

It's a cultural thing. In a society that has a major issue with suicide to the point where there is an entire forest where people go to kill themselves...to imply someone should go and commit suicide is, perhaps, one of the gravest insults possible in Japanese society.

The reaction isn't overblown at all with that in mind. It's the equivalent of Yoshi-P dropping the 'N' word on a livestream and we all know how that would go down.

Personally I've never really bought into Yoshi-P's 'nice guy' act. He's a very shrewd, intelligent man who knows exactly what to say and do in order to milk the FFXIV community but there's been moments where the mask has slipped and his real opinions/attitude has crept through.

[Schmittay]

It's a cultural thing. In a society that has a major issue with suicide to the point where there is an entire forest where people go to kill themselves...to imply someone should go and commit suicide is, perhaps, one of the gravest insults possible in Japanese society.

The reaction isn't overblown at all with that in mind. It's the equivalent of Yoshi-P dropping the 'N' word on a livestream and we all know how that would go down.

Personally I've never really bought into Yoshi-P's 'nice guy' act. He's a very shrewd, intelligent man who knows exactly what to say and do in order to milk the FFXIV community but there's been moments where the mask has slipped and his real opinions/attitude has crept through.

I think Yohi P has always been quirky, well for a Japanese anyway. He's passionate. FFXIV director Yoshi P in tears. 'Nice guy act' my arse, this dude is the legit deal.

[Frozenbeef]

Reminds me a lot of Aion...

Currently at level 53...still waiting for the amazing moments that draw you in...

So far the best bit to me is the crafting mini games.

[8bithamster]

It's a cultural thing. In a society that has a major issue with suicide to the point where there is an entire forest where people go to kill themselves...to imply someone should go and commit suicide is, perhaps, one of the gravest insults possible in Japanese society.

The reaction isn't overblown at all with that in mind. It's the equivalent of Yoshi-P dropping the 'N' word on a livestream and we all know how that would go down.

Personally I've never really bought into Yoshi-P's 'nice guy' act. He's a very shrewd, intelligent man who knows exactly what to say and do in order to milk the FFXIV community but there's been moments where the mask has slipped and his real opinions/attitude has crept through.

Please.. stop trying to act as if you're a cultural expert on it.. people who actually attended fan fests, who actually talked to Yoshi-P tell completely different stories. Who is more believable?

1.) Someone who watches weeb stuff and goes "hur hur I know all about japan! omg suicide forest lawl" (which you're wrong on btw. The forest wasn't made for suicide..)

2.) People who actually talked to the dude, who watched livestreams with him

[Graeham]

You're free to obsess over him if you so wish. It's not like there has not been numerous celebrities who have seemingly been 'cool dudes' only to have some very unfortunate skeletons discovered in their closets. It's not even that I dislike the guy, I just don't think he's as flawless or as switched on as many like to portray him as - but there's always been a pretty unhinged cult surrounding Yoshi-P to the point where it legitimately interferes with feedback and suggestions in relation to the game.

I'm just a little baffled as to why something he did that is inherently wrong is being ignored and brushed under the rug as if it didn't happen.

[Kittahsmash]

Personally I've never really bought into Yoshi-P's 'nice guy' act. He's a very shrewd, intelligent man who knows exactly what to say and do in order to milk the FFXIV community but there's been moments where the mask has slipped and his real opinions/attitude has crept through.

I've got friends who have actually sat down and talked to Yoshi-P in person for some interview questions, and have been doing so for 8 years...and you couldn't be further from the truth. But you're not going to care about that, because you're LITERALLY looking for any reason to hate on him.

Your cynical view about him says a lot more about who you are as a person, than it does about him. Your opinion holds absolutely zero factual weight, and I really do wonder about your mental health. Yoshi is a dude, he's not infallible. He makes mistakes, he has some good ideas. There are definitely people who have too high of an opinion of him, but he has done very little to not deserve the trust of the players. Indeed, many of the things he's done and promises he's kept throughout the years show him to be a much better person than the majority of other game developers. You can't accept that, so you're looking for anything in what you perceive as 'cracks' in how he presents himself, and for that you have my deepest sympathy.

Get help.

I'm just a little baffled as to why something he did that is inherently wrong is being ignored and brushed under the rug as if it didn't happen.

Very conspiracy theorist of you to not mention what that thing is, and why you think it's wrong, so that the rest of us can pick it apart and call you crazy.

[Graeham]

A wonderful example of:



The sheer overreaction to anything related to the game or development team being anything less than perfect never ceases to amaze me.

[ippollite]

Here's the thing for me. I really like this game. I LOVE the universe. Its so mysterious to me and i cant quite (still... shb) get my head around it (this is likely because there are 14 other games in the series and one in development and i really want them all to cohere into something absolutely majestic). But as it stands im trapped in this one completely boring narrative that believes itself to be one boring, divine all encompassing narrative. I feel like Urianger. Hang on... This temporal occlusion doth bind me, happenstance, in some flat equilibrium whence i can no longer see mine own self through the eyes of eternity. This cage is but a triangular prism seeking to bolster such an illusion... yet... YET!...

[Kittahsmash]

A wonderful example of:

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ulYuAY5.png[/I]

The sheer overreaction to anything related to the game or development team being anything less than perfect never ceases to amaze me.

I do quite enjoy how you completely ignored my question about what he supposedly did. "overreaction"? Really? Someone coming in here and saying what I did is an "overreaction"? What do you think a normal response to your comments would've been, then? What would a "reaction" be, in your opinion?

You've clearly got some agenda that you're trying to promote, stop trying to pretend that you're not.

[Graeham]

I don't have an agenda and you can see from my posting history that I've been playing and enjoying the game for years. That doesn't equal to me thinking everything is sunshine and rainbows, though.

I'm not interested in a pointless argument, at any rate. Either agree to disagree or put me on ignore. Either route suits me just fine.

[Kittahsmash]

you still haven't answered what you meant by this totally-not-drive-by-some-agenda-claim:

I'm just a little baffled as to why something he did that is inherently wrong is being ignored and brushed under the rug as if it didn't happen.

Maybe the third time of me asking you about it will actually get you to answer.

[Graeham]

Well, putting aside the simple fact that others and myself have had less than positive interactions with both the Gamer Escape and Reddit communities in the past you're not doing a very good job at representing your platform. It's honestly pretty creepy that you're so bent out of shape by a passing comment made in a thread.

Leave me alone, please. I gave my response earlier - either we can agree to disagree on the subject or you can place me on ignore.

[KrayZ33]

Well, putting aside the simple fact that others and myself have had less than positive interactions with both the Gamer Escape and Reddit communities in the past you're not doing a very good job at representing your platform. It's honestly pretty creepy that you're so bent out of shape by a passing comment made in a thread.

Leave me alone, please. I gave my response earlier - either we can agree to disagree on the subject or you can place me on ignore.

- talks shit

- gets called out for it

"dude, you are creepy, why do you care! leave me alone"

Pretty sure you know yourself how high the bullshit meter is when you wrote about the "suicide forest" (which is no different than the golden gate bridge for example) and brought that into connection with what has happened, lol.

Getting some flack for that is obviously a given.

[Graeham]

That's not what happened, but feel free to believe whatever delusions come your way.

I'm not sure why it's so difficult to acknowledge that telling people to go and kill themselves is far from an acceptable comment.

It's even more baffling that rather than address that it happened, deflection is being embraced to attack those who dared to highlight it as an even that happened.

Though when the defence is that Yoshi-P is nice to people who happen to bring mutual financial benefit to each other, I think it's pretty clear there's little more to be said on the subject. So let's find something different to discuss, eh?

[KrayZ33]

That's not what happened, but feel free to believe whatever delusions come your way.

Okay. Just like you did then? I prefer not to.

[Graeham]

Okay. Just like you did then? I prefer not to.

See the rest of my post, since edited.

The event happened, thus it cannot be a delusion on my part.

It's not like I'm even saying that Yoshi-P is a terrible person, just that he isn't perfect and there's some pretty valid reasons to doubt some of his statements and intent.

As I've said, I enjoy the game for the most part. I have my beef with some of it, but I consider it to be the best option on the market where MMO's are concerned right now.

[Ealyssa]

one of the gravest insults possible in Japanese society..

Nope

Classic white savior syndrom tho... "Oh no, those poor japanese. He talked about suicide". It's not because you watch some anime that you understand the japanese culture. Who would have thought ?

[Graeham]

Nope

Classic white savior syndrom tho... "Oh no, those poor japanese. He talked about suicide". It's not because you watch some anime that you understand the japanese culture. Who would have thought ?

I'm pretty far from being a 'white saviour' but the fact that you even resort to that term in the first place says more about you than it does me.

Again, it can't be that difficult to admit that telling people to kill themselves is not something acceptable in pretty much any civilised society.

Out of curiosity, have you seen the actual rant in question? It was genuine anger and frustration on his part, rather than 'just a joke'. It may be pretty hard to find nowadays, though. Last time I looked it had been scrubbed from Youtube. Presumably because it didn't make for pleasant optics.

[KrayZ33]

See the rest of my post, since edited.

The event happened, thus it cannot be a delusion on my part.

It's not like I'm even saying that Yoshi-P is a terrible person, just that he isn't perfect and there's some pretty valid reasons to doubt some of his statements and intent.

As I've said, I enjoy the game for the most part. I have my beef with some of it, but I consider it to be the best option on the market where MMO's are concerned right now.

It doesn't matter what you think about the game, you are embarassing yourself by pretending to know the culture with that suicide forest bullshit and try to base your delusions on a single scene that was also quite obviously said as a joke.
I also love the fact that literally no one next to him was disturbed by it thinking "oh did he just say that, shiiit", yet you think it's equal to someone saying the N word in public televison/during an interview or whatever.
I'm sure everyone would be laughing and clapping their hands next to him if someone said that here, am I right?