McCree Renamed to Cole Cassidy

[Barendon]

Quinton wasn’t an FTE developer they had HR files on. He was a contractor who was embroiled in lawsuits that were not visually appealing and they acted a bit too quickly.
But they’re apples and oranges.
Blizzard have the info, not Kotaku or you, on what McCree did. And Quinton also publicly denied and shared the details of the allegations against him, some McCree tellingly hasn’t. They also didn’t fire Quinton, again he was an independent contractor, they replaced his voice work, which doesn’t open them up to wrongful termination.
The overstep taken by Blizzard on Quinton doesn’t mean everyone is innocent.

The Quinton thing is an example of how blizzard as a company behaves. Obviously there are differences. The likely scenario of why he would be fired from the company could very be likely due to negative association with the lawsuit, and not necessarily due to him being accused against or having any allegations.
You have no clue either as to why Jesse McCree was fired. You don't even know if he WAS fired at all, or whether he decided to leave the company or not. So, it's fine to think he is a sexual offender, or whatever you'd like to think he is. Just admit you have zero evidence to that fact.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Not a fan of the dude, but you perseverating on him being rapey and trash isn't exactly sane.

How isn't this sane when this thread is about him?

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Seems like you are the guy, who gonna erase Hitler from history books, go on my dear i will watch with popcorn.
(or just change his name to Speedy Gonzales maybe then we gonna forget him exist)

This is a false equivalency, try again.

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Do you have any evidence for your take ?

Its not a "take," tons of people are very open about this.

[Barendon]

He was the lead designer of Diablo 4, i doubt he would be sacrificed just to look good. Also none of his co-workers have been defending him, unlike with few others who were indeed falsely accused.

No accusations against went up either. You don't know if people are afraid of being let off if they speak up about people the company fired.

There were other people who were put on a leave together with him but others came back when he didnt. It's quite clear there was an internal investigation and discussions. He wasn't just "cancelled" because of public outroar. Out of the 20+ people fired after this only a few have been publicly named in the lawsuits.

When he appearntly laid off, on the same offical statment another dev who was in the cosby suite picture was also reported to leave the company. Such coincedence.

And yes, not answering to accusations is an answer in itself. Never said it was admission. If you nor no one who has worked with you for over a decade defends you it's odd to say the least. If anything, case Afrasiabi proves that the scummy people there are still watching eachothers' backs.

If he said he didn't do anything wrong, would people believe him? or would he get just more hate for it? He's likely have already consulted advisors on the matter that told him to stay low and hope people forget. This repeates on many occasions for these kind of online accusations. ProJared and Quinton Flynn come to my mind as great examples.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Okay, let's make one thing clear, for all we know, Mccree did not rape a person, else him getting fired would be smallest of issues.

Second, we don't exactly know what cases he has been involved, it's entirely possible that he, as senior staff, sided with the accused in a "he said, she said" situation, which given the current enviroment was likely enough to get him fired.

I'm not defending the guy, but at least have the decency to recognize that we have no fucking clue what Mccree has been involved, you can say that but still thinking to re name him was the right call.

"...Its entirely possible..." but do we have any evidence at all of anything remotely similar to that happening? No? Okay then.

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No, I don't know the truth behind who named what.

Okay thats all I needed you to say.

[Indigenously Abled]

How isn't this sane when this thread is about him?

You're insisting that he's something that he hasn't even been accused of. Creep? Probably. Don't be so flippant with labeling someone "rapey" without any evidence.

[Cthulhu fhtagn]

When he appearntly laid off, on the same offical statment another dev who was in the cosby suite picture was also reported to leave the company. Such coincedence.

And Cory Stockton was not fired for it. Hence it would make sense it was not the only criteria and that there was an internal investigation.

[Femininity]

The Quinton thing is an example of how blizzard as a company behaves. Obviously there are differences. The likely scenario of why he would be fired from the company could very be likely due to negative association with the lawsuit, and not necessarily due to him being accused against or having any allegations.
You have no clue either as to why Jesse McCree was fired. You don't even know if he WAS fired at all, or whether he decided to leave the company or not. So, it's fine to think he is a sexual offender, or whatever you'd like to think he is. Just admit you have zero evidence to that fact.

We've moved past needing evidence, and are quickly moving past even needing an accusation, to freely label someone a sex offender. It's this kind of backward guilt-by-association that muddies the waters, and makes actual sex offenders harder to target. Everyone jumping to label this man as a sex offender, take note: actual victims don't stand to benefit from your insistence that everyone involved in the controversy committed a crime. While this man is very likely complicit, the actual offenders are the ones that need to answer for their crimes.

Stop minimizing victims.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

You're insisting that he's something that he hasn't even been accused of. Creep? Probably. Don't be so flippant with labeling someone "rapey" without any evidence.

I don't need for him to have raped someone at gunpoint to be rapey. I'm not being flippant at all.

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We've moved past needing evidence, and are quickly moving past even needing an accusation, to freely label someone a sex offender.

I love how you are acting like this is completely random, as if someone pulled his name out of a hat and called him a sex offender.

[Specialka]

How isn't this sane when this thread is about him?

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This is a false equivalency, try again.

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Its not a "take," tons of people are very open about this.

I mean, has he been accused of anything ?

[Barendon]

And Cory Stockton was not fired for it. Hence it would make sense it was not the only criteria and that there was an internal investigation.

It is a possibility. We don't even know if Jesse was fired or not.

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I don't need for him to have raped someone at gunpoint to be rapey. I'm not being flippant at all.

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I love how you are acting like this is completely random, as if someone pulled his name out of a hat and called him a sex offender.

Explain your reasoning as to why you believe he's a sex offender then?

[Kralljin]

"...Its entirely possible..." but do we have any evidence at all of anything remotely similar to that happening? No? Okay then.

Nor do we have any evidence that he's in fact a "rapey person".

[Femininity]

I don't need for him to have raped someone at gunpoint to be rapey. I'm not being flippant at all.

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I love how you are acting like this is completely random, as if someone pulled his name out of a hat and called him a sex offender.

That's your interpretation. Spend time under the weight of the criminal justice system, trying to secure a conviction for an actual offender, and tell me how valid or useful your baseless allegations are.

[Indigenously Abled]

Nor do we have any evidence that he's in fact a "rapey person".

This dude is trolling. He's used "rapey" 6 times in this thread, just to hammer the point home. Defamation much?

[ProphetFlume]

People should always call him McCree, just to remind ATVI about all the hypocrisy they are spewing.

Or just because the new name is terrible. Just Cassidy might have worked but McCree has that cowboy feel that cassidy doesn’t.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

I mean, has he been accused of anything ?

For me personally, a picture of McCree smiling with a picture of rapist Bill Cosby in the Cosby suite is all I need to know about him.

But then there is all the other stuff that has come out. I also didn't call him a "violence rapist," I said he is rapey, which he is.

[Barendon]

We've moved past needing evidence, and are quickly moving past even needing an accusation, to freely label someone a sex offender. It's this kind of backward guilt-by-association that muddies the waters, and makes actual sex offenders harder to target. Everyone jumping to label this man as a sex offender, take note: actual victims don't stand to benefit from your insistence that everyone involved in the controversy committed a crime. While this man is very likely complicit, the actual offenders are the ones that need to answer for their crimes.

Stop minimizing victims.

I very much agree. Not sure if you misquoted me.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

That's your interpretation. Spend time under the weight of the criminal justice system, trying to secure a conviction for an actual offender, and tell me how valid or useful your baseless allegations are.

"Blah blah blah blah"

Again, this isn't some random act just to pick on some random dude.

[Indigenously Abled]

It is a possibility. We don't even know if Jesse was fired or not.

I tried to get that point across, but it's falling on deaf ears.

Explain your reasoning as to why you believe he's a sex offender then?

Association, purely.

[Specialka]

For me personally, a picture of McCree smiling with a picture of rapist Bill Cosby in the Cosby suite is all I need to know about him.

But then there is all the other stuff that has come out. I also didn't call him a "violence rapist," I said he is rapey, which he is.

I guess we do not need a judicial system with people like you.

[Cthulhu fhtagn]

For me personally, a picture of McCree smiling with a picture of rapist Bill Cosby in the Cosby suite is all I need to know about him.

But then there is all the other stuff that has come out. I also didn't call him a "violence rapist," I said he is rapey, which he is.

Except that at the time Cosby wasnt really widely associated with that. A lot of people saw that picture back in the day and thought nothing of it.