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they cant lie or misinterpret facts (and all those facts have to be audited before released to investors by another independant party), they would risk ENORMOUS troubles and gain nothing, they can ofc formulate it favourably
for example if they have one (lets ignore milions and keep it simple) less person playing a game they cant say it performed better than previous Q, but they can say it performed comparably to the previous Q, sounds better than "performed worse" and its still truth, although a bit vague
so when they say something performed better than previous Q it had to perform better, it might by TINY difference, but have to be better
It is in their best interest to report the truth. Lying to investors causes trouble. They already had one SEC investigation about misleading investors in regards to the recent lawsuits. Lying on an earnings report just to "be positive" would cause more trouble the company doesn't want. There is nothing PR speak about saying something is on track to out perform. Is it wording it in a positive light? Sure because it is positive news even if slight.
It would be a lie though if the stated product is actually under performing.
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Its slightly underperformed. But nothing to really worry about in the long term. Chances are they had big issues this quarter but because of a strong second quarter, even with diminished prospects in the 4th, they'll still perform decently well.
The issue is this is an expansion release year and they've definitely underperformed in that regard, seeing as they explicitly are only beating nonexpansion years.
Thats the thing here, they aren't lying to investors, but they have no obligation to show the whole truth.
I love how players still still the game is on a major decline despite the numbmers saying the opposite. "pay no attention to the numbers. I have declared the game is declining because I say it is". That game is in a much better place than the doomsayers want to admit. Talk about denial.
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Vanilla had no mtx, but maus were far better for classic. That was also just last quarter, it doesn't mean they will beat 2019 this year, even with the tbc mtx.
Like I said, they underperformed, its not the end of the world, but considering the releases and what they had going on, they aren't doing great this year, they are doing ok.
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The statement by Activision Blizzard specifically was in reference to modern (retail). Of course if you add in your own definitions and stipulations their statement changes.
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Monthly Active users is not lying or misrepresenting facts. They give a clear definition for that metric to the investors. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is a lie.
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Sure it did. TCG loot cards were micro transactions.
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mtx do nothing with engagement, and you have no clue what number of players vanila or tbcc had, as maus are for whole blizz...
wow classic released in august so Q3, so wow have to be AS OF NOW performing better than at this time of the year in 2019 otherwise it would be misleading which would lead to a CRAPLOAD of troubles, that they really cant risk right now since they are under "keen eye" due to lawsuit and shit...
they outperformed 2019, its said loud and clear, you might choose to believe they lie, but thats your problem... and nobody said they are doing great, they are doing fine, just better than any year without modern expansion in last decade (which includes year vanila was released)... might be just TINY BIT better, but its definitely better...
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i think he means classic vanila, which he is right, but that makes no difference as ENGAGEMENT is stronger too
Blizz is moving the bar, why don't you see that. Classic had no mtx is what I was saying.
This is the savvy part, no offense, but you are failing to see the report for what it is. Like I said earlier in the thread, its easy to not lie, but not report the truth.
If everyone logged in to delete their characters and Uninstaller multiple games, blizz can say "player engagement and maus at an all time high" its not a lie.
Thats the problem, not the solution, thats literally prooving my point, if your counting someone logging in for a second as a MAU, then your actually being disengenuous and committing white lie fraud.
Your telling people you're basically active when you're not, and your making it look like someone touching the game equates to playing it, sure, the majority of the gaming industry does this, but in blizzards case they love to inflate the numbers to unrealistic levels.
There is absoleutely no way in hell with the emptiness of current wow servers that there is somehow magically 10 million people still playing this game, that isnt just impossible, it is impossible.
If you were to realistically check the bot-to-player ratio, then you can see that in classic, tbc and retail.
Remember captain grim's meme video about the state of wow? Its not a joke, there are literally bots running dungeons and blizzard *Doesnt* ban them for doing this so of COURSE its going to look impressive to their shareholders.
Its not just smoke and mirrors, its flat out fraud.
Simply put, why should it be different? Because fraud is that one thing that never works once people can see through it and when they can, its impossible to pretend its fine when anyone with more than 2 brain cells can figure out that 1+1 does not infact equal 3.
No. I am just not choosing to add a bias to the statements made. You keep claiming they lied and that WoW is actually under performing. Why not inform the SEC that the investor communications contains an error?
Also why is it wrong to count every person that logs into a game? Not to mention you don't need to log in to uninstall any of their products. You and others like to spin MAU as being bad for counting every MAU for a product. Logging into a game for even 1 second makes you an active user for that month. Why wouldn't it? Why are you advocating that they actually lie by not counting every user for that period?
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It isn't biased to count a user as active for individual products and then combining it into one company wide statistic. That is reporting active users for all products lol. And yes you claimed MAU is a lie because they would already have been fined for reporting them if they can get in trouble for lying to investors.
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Its not fraud, its how maus are counted and its a decently common metric. People should know that MAUs aren't a hard line measure of success, but considering net bookings are still doing well Blizz isn't going to care.
MAU is ultimately how many potential customers there are, more is better but if they can meet expectations with less they don't matter as much. Thats the trick Blizz has been pulling for years.