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    What's so special about Wrathion?

    Any ideas? Why is he special? And do you really like how he has developed, character arc, from origin to current, Why do you like him or don't like him? What made Wrathion and Andruid work, but not say Me'dan. Not many successful younger characters in warcraftfor sure.


    Also who would you prefer for Black Aspect/ Wrathion or Ebonhorn? Does Ebon want to leave the Highmountain?
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    I like Ebonhorn much better because he is only Horde side Dragon. and a Tauren at that.

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    I think for me Wrathion feels a lot more like us, like a dragon that we can relate to because of his age, and we don't resent him being badass or magically powerful because he is a dragon afterall - before his power developers, his greatest asset is his intelilgence, he's got a very sharp mind and a bit of a schemer, but one that actually has a sense of honour - even though he doesn't always go about it the best way - for me tha'ts more because he had no parents to show him.

    Despite that he's actually turned out quite well.

    A bromance/friendship with Anduin actually I think was a good move and an asset, we should have seen more of the two of them in previous episodes before they develop.

    For me, I really got to like Wrathion in 8.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwank05 View Post
    I like Ebonhorn much better because he is only Horde side Dragon. and a Tauren at that.
    So for you it's faction based???

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    I'm ambivalent about liking him, but it's pretty obvious why he's so special. He was the only non-corrupted black dragon that we knew of. Yes, Sabellian was on Outland and yes, Ebonhorn was hiding on the Broken Isles. But that still made Wrathion one of only three. Then you have his father as the world-ending mega threat. That casts a big shadow over you, y'know? That, plus screen time and cool quests, leads to a special character.
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    For me he's a believable "good" black dragon. Him being purified didn't instantly make him exactly like a red dragon say. He, like his evil kin, was arrogant and underhanded.

    In dnd terms: I like that his chatoic "good" over say lawful "good".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyux View Post
    I'm ambivalent about liking him, but it's pretty obvious why he's so special. He was the only non-corrupted black dragon that we knew of. Yes, Sabellian was on Outland and yes, Ebonhorn was hiding on the Broken Isles. But that still made Wrathion one of only three. Then you have his father as the world-ending mega threat. That casts a big shadow over you, y'know? That, plus screen time and cool quests, leads to a special character.
    How come Ebon horn isn't corrupted?

    Also for a while, wasn't Wrathion the last black dragon whelp? I don't really remember. ANd if we have these 3 there must be more or at least can be right?

    I wonder why they don't work togehter, and will we get a female dragon for rpoducing more uncorrupted black dragons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    How come Ebon horn isn't corrupted?

    Also for a while, wasn't Wrathion the last black dragon whelp? I don't really remember. ANd if we have these 3 there must be more or at least can be right?

    I wonder why they don't work togehter, and will we get a female dragon for rpoducing more uncorrupted black dragons?
    Ebonhorn/Ebyssian was cleansed of the corruption of the Old Gods via the Hammer of Khaz'goroth, a Titanic artifact with power over the earth and stone, closely aligned with the essence of the Black Dragonflight. Ebonhorn's existence was a closely guarded secret, and no one (not even Deathwing) apparently knew he existed or had been recovered from his old lair in the Broken Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Any ideas? Why is he special?
    Wrathion was cleansed of the Old Gods' corruption via an unknown Titanic artifact in an installation beneath the Badlands (presumably part of the Uldaman complex), and appears to have also gained some aspect of Titanic power and knowledge via this process. He was further empowered, and gained even more Titanic knowledge, on consuming the essence of Lei Shen - which itself contained some of the power of Highkeeper Ra and thus a portion of true Titanic power due to the essence that the Pantheon had bestowed to the Keepers on the occasion of their deaths.
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    Wrathion is imperfect (his mistakes are shown and he's screwed up a lot which can make him more relatable) he's charismatic, good looking, and a dragon. He has a lot going for him in that aspect.

    Also his friendship and banter with Anduin in MoP was unironically one of the best things in that expansion and the devs would be crazy not to do something similar for the Dragon Isles, which has the similar premise of a just found island to explore the wonders of.
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    Wrathion, alongside his bodyguards, Right and Left, attended the trial of Garrosh Hellscream, frequently corresponding with Anduin Wrynn during intermissions. He came to acknowledge the prince of Stormwind as a personal friend, though he told him that his kind heart and desire to see good in the world would be his undoing. He sat as far from Alexstrasza as he could.

    Eventually, Wrathion revealed himself to be working with Kairozdormu and the Infinite dragonflight to free Garrosh and send him back in time to the Draenor of thirty-five years ago. After incapacitating the Chu brothers so he could lock up Chromie for investigating Kairoz, Wrathion was confronted by Anduin, who attempted to deter his friend from freeing the captured warchief. Proclaiming that as the last of the Black Dragonflight, the protection of Azeroth now falls to him, Wrathion knocked Anduin out and took his leave. Despite his actions, Wrathion believed this would be best for Azeroth in the coming conflict with the Legion, and maintained hope that Anduin would eventually understand his motives and even stand with him as a brother when the time comes.

    As Wrathion was a wanted fugitive of the Alliance following the events of Garrosh's trial, the troops led by Lady Claudia took aim.


    What an arrogant bastard. Wasn't he responsible for his actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Why is he special?
    In lore? He was introduced as the sole surviving member of the Black Dragonflight on Azeroth who wasn't evil or mutated.

    Out of lore? Most players knew him as their employer from the MoP legendary questline. In every chapter of the legendary questline (which everyone did because it was THE main story content after levelling and provided powerful equipment, and gave players access to the Ordon Sanctuary), he would have conversations with Anduin at the Tavern in the Mists (which is also how most players became acquainted with Anduin), playing checkers, talking about the state of Azeroth, etc. Players became very endeared by Wrathion and Anduin.

    There are other dragon characters, but they didn't have onscreen prominence like Wrathion did, either being relegated to sidequest content that many players skipped, or only really appeared in books that most players never read. It's telling that of any Warcraft dragons, Wrathion has far and away the most fanart:











    And do you really like how he has developed, character arc, from origin to current
    I will never understand this millennial obsession with "character arcs".

    Why do you like him
    I liked his chats with Anduin. He is sympathetic in that he feels embarrassed by his father's legacy, and is also sympathetic in being the last of his kind. Also, he gave me orange loot.

    What made Wrathion and Andruid work, but not say Me'dan
    Again, Wrathion and Anduin actually appeared prominently ingame, whereas most people haven't read the Me'dan stuff.

    Not many successful younger characters in warcraftfor sure.
    Wrathion and Anduin were among the last creators the original writing team created. New characters are written by the new writers and are unlikeable. Nobody wants to hear Calia whine about her dad.

    Also who would you prefer for Black Aspect/ Wrathion or Ebonhorn?
    Wrathion, because he was the first and has done far more.
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    I kind of hate how Wrathion advertently caused WoD to happen and inadvertently caused Legion to happen and managed to walk away from it with little more than a slap on the wrist (or in this case, a punch in the face)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Any ideas? Why is he special? And do you really like how he has developed, character arc, from origin to current, Why do you like him or don't like him? What made Wrathion and Andruid work, but not say Me'dan. Not many successful younger characters in warcraftfor sure.


    Also who would you prefer for Black Aspect/ Wrathion or Ebonhorn? Does Ebon want to leave the Highmountain?
    Oh, I don't know.

    He's Deathwing's/Neltharion's son... literally the son of the Earth Aspect and leader of the Black Dragonflight.

    Who cares, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    What made Wrathion and Andruid work, but not say Me'dan.
    Because Medan was bloody rediculous. He was a half human, quarter orc, quarter draenei, related to three major lore characters, was a shaman mage priest and became the Guardian of Azeroth.

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    I preferred him when he had a turban.

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    For me I personally hope that in Dragon Isles that Ebonhorn takes the leadership over the Black Dragonflight because of his ''humanoid'' side of view is good for their flight to regain their duty as protectors.

    Wrathion have proved to be a risky character who probably would fall for similar issues like Deathwing himself got into and better off being a person with his own organisation aiding us champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasualVader View Post
    For me I personally hope that in Dragon Isles that Ebonhorn takes the leadership over the Black Dragonflight because of his ''humanoid'' side of view is good for their flight to regain their duty as protectors.

    Wrathion have proved to be a risky character who probably would fall for similar issues like Deathwing himself got into and better off being a person with his own organisation aiding us champions.
    But wouldn't the same logic also mean that Wrathion would not fall like his father did - he is very conversant with the voi d and whispers of the old ogds his father fell oto, and has shown he is seriously opposed to them. By token of his experience and his character , after the 8.3 arc we know he has overcome the temptation of his father.


    I think his "riskiness" also gives him a level of uncertainty and unpredictability, dragons are meant to be dangerous and fearsome, not exactly teh sort you should be able to count on. Well if you can on some, it's nice to have a couple that you can't entirely be sure off - and are closer to the anti-hero side than the hero side, if you ask me. It makes Wrathion feel a bit more dangerous, despite being so likeable - for me, that's a good balance.

    While I like Ebonhorn's stability, I'm sorry, he hid and focused only on the Highmountain, while this is good work, he shows little to no enterprise, forward thinking and the sort of genius indicative of Neltharion - even Neltharion long before he became Deathwing. Wrathion seems the spiritual successor, and I kinda feel a lot more attached to him because he's had much more screen time, and it's been likeable stuff, which has not been easy to do in wow for blizzard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    I preferred him when he had a turban.
    I miss that too, although I don't see why he can't sometimes have it, taking it off and on. Like when he is in private with ANduin or friends, it is off, and when in public it is on.

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    He is an ambitious, mysterious character from whom we know little. When he was first introduced it was not clear if he was trustworthy or not. Now we know he´s good, or so it seems.

    That makes him special. Hopefully they will not destroy his character in 10.0

    I am particularly afraid of what the modern devs might do with Anduin and Wrathion... since they insist in opening uncalled for cans of warms into the Warcraft universe.. Let´s hope they certain issues out of Warcraft from now on

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    Well he's very handsome and has THAT look in his eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    I kind of hate how Wrathion advertently caused WoD to happen and inadvertently caused Legion to happen and managed to walk away from it with little more than a slap on the wrist (or in this case, a punch in the face)
    This. The character was very poorly written by blizzard. And when the time came in Legion for his big plan to unravel, they didn’t even use him…
    Now you have a black dragon who almost destroyed the world, again, and nobody seems to remember all of his wrongdoings.

    Ebonhorn would make a way better black dragonflight leader/main character.
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    I like to think that Wrathion has some sort of recollection of his time in the egg, and so learnt from Rhea's nobility and sacrifice, and felt influence of the titan artifact used to purify him.
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