How does Dragonflight look so far, Good, bad, same as usual?

[khazmodan]

This times 100000000!

I'm so sick of the rnd in wow, just give me some currency for doing dungeons, dailies, mythics etc... and let me buy what I want.

Totally agree, I am an altoholic and just want to explore the game without being stuck on one character for long. Currency for dungeons was a great way to have some fun with friends without going all try hard in mythics, raiding, etc. Just let the casuals have fun or watch the game die with fewer and fewer players since even the hard cores don't want to be in a ghost town.

[AlmightyGerkin]

Seems worrying, because 10.0 needs to be a straight up 10/10 for WoW.

No expansion will ever be a 10/10. Would bet maybe 8/10 but realistically 7.5/10. This expect DF to be out in 3months +/- still much work to do. I could assume it's going to go the way of WC3: Refunded as pushed into 2023 January or February but that's just my guess.

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This times 100000000!

I'm so sick of the rnd in wow, just give me some currency for doing dungeons, dailies, mythics etc... and let me buy what I want.

Wotlk had a decent system with that. Those items were better than the dungeon loot but under raid loot. Should have been kept and potentially expanded upon. Vault is something like that but not really.

[pahbi]

Totally agree, I am an altoholic and just want to explore the game without being stuck on one character for long. Currency for dungeons was a great way to have some fun with friends without going all try hard in mythics, raiding, etc. Just let the casuals have fun or watch the game die with fewer and fewer players since even the hard cores don't want to be in a ghost town.

A currency system is simple, predictable, and actually pretty fun, I enjoy window shopping the vendor then saving up to buy gear.

The very best loot can still come from raids while dungeons and mythics can have flavor drops like mounts, pets, transmogs etc...

I really believe the average wow player has long since matured enough to just accept grinding for some kind of currency to buy gear for themselves or alts.

[Revamp Man]

the exp nerf has me so ready for leveling my alts finally

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No expansion will ever be a 10/10. Would bet maybe 8/10 but realistically 7.5/10. This expect DF to be out in 3months +/- still much work to do. I could assume it's going to go the way of WC3: Refunded as pushed into 2023 January or February but that's just my guess.

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we have raid testing
and then we have....everything else in the game so final changes and bug fixes

[khazmodan]

A currency system is simple, predictable, and actually pretty fun, I enjoy window shopping the vendor then saving up to buy gear.

The very best loot can still come from raids while dungeons and mythics can have flavor drops like mounts, pets, transmogs etc...

I really believe the average wow player has long since matured enough to just accept grinding for some kind of currency to buy gear for themselves or alts.

This really brings up a good idea, it would be awesome if the armor and weapons were actually on mannequins in a store behind glass to create more hype for getting that armor/weapon. Maybe even a runway with your ability to request a model to walk it down and back the runway like a fashion show, lol. The problem is that there are so many types of armor that there should be the ability to request the armor you want to see in the window on a mannequin as well which would make it an interesting interactive location for the main city. One possible problem...I don't know if I have ever seen glass windows in WoW...

[TheRevenantHero]

Based on what I've seen of questing structure, the writing, heavily restricted new class, and illusion of choice talent trees I'm pretty confident DF is going to be another dumpster fire of an expansion like Shadowlands. Blizzard simply doesn't make quality products anymore.

[ukko]

Looks anemic IMO. I think that's the best description.

[Uvania]

??? I mean most of questing in all of wow's history has had npcs stop to talk to eachother for a bit before letting you continue, having done the entire main questline like 5 times now, it seems no more then past expansions.

Dungeons incomplete for this stage of testing?
nah, not at all, again comparable to prior expansions ive tested.

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having been in day 1 alpha for both, it is actually ahead of shadowlands by a fair bit.

Yeah, i still have nightmares about the escort quests from leveling in vanilla, everything has gotten more better and more modern over the years in WoW and i seriously dont miss much from "the ol' days" after playing alot of classic since 2019 and onwards.

Something i would like to see re-added to the game once again is colored gem slots with bonuses the feeling i had just looking at my priest early tbc with full primal mooncloth and whitemend set with those 3 gem slots in different shiny colors was beautiful

Maybe reforging aswell, possibly tie the reforging bit to inscription since its a nearly a pointless profession today, maybe they can make scrolls that convert lets say 25% of secondary stat to x amount of crit/haste/mastery/versa et.c. like how the missives work today while crafting legendary.

Also bring back enchantments to all gear slots again since the profit of enchanting is low and LW/Tailor leg armors, BS sockets e.tc. more customization!

[Nyel]

Is the "no content" thing a new meme? The level of content for 10.0 seems perfectly fine to me. Are people seriously crying for features like torghast when they have spent the last 2 years shitting on it?

Reading some replies, it feels like some people want a new game, but they want it from wow.

Content and features is not the same. Dragonflight has as much content as every other expansion at launch. It has barely any features though.

[rrayy]

Seems worrying, because 10.0 needs to be a straight up 10/10 for WoW.

No it doesn't. DF will be extremely successful.

[Nyel]

I forgot about them, transmog is one of my fav but afaik, it wasn’t an expansion release feature but came out in firelands? It’s splitting hairs, I know, but still.

I do agree with what you say, it is very lackluster. Nothing but to get really excited about. Dragon flying is meh to me, since I just wanna get to the destination, I don’t care for an “engaging” journey.

Transmog came with Dragon Soul I think. Yes, it came late, but I'd consider it part of Cataclysm.
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Glyphs came in WotLK, a pretty huge feature. I always forget about them.

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having something new just for the sake of it is a waste of resources both at launch and a later on when they spend patch time trying to fix said things.

And ya It’s pretty easy to deny that it’s more feature lacking because it’s on par with TBC (flying) wrath (vehicle combat) Cata (nothing?) and mop (scenarios) at all of there launches.

TBC: Shaman for Alliance, Paladin for Horde, Flying, Draenei, Blood Elves, Heroic Dungeons
WotLK: Death Knight, Inscription, Glyphs
Cataclysm: Worgen, Goblins, entire world revamp (granted, not a feature), Archeology, transmog (later in the expansion)
MoP: Pandaren, Monk, Scenarios, Challenge Modes, new talents

Dragonflight has what? Dragonriding aka restricted flying (and only 5 mount models) with a twist (this feature will get abandoned the moment we leave Dragonflight behind because it's utterly pointless), revamped professions (the 1283th time they tried that), new talents which are basically old talents in a new UI - as I said, Evoker is brand new and fresh.

Compared to the impact the other expansions had, Dragonflight just feels very, very light-weight.

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No it doesn't. DF will be extremely successful.

It absolutely does because Shadowlands, especially the longer it dragged on, was received poorly. And the "hype" surrounding Dragonflight feels very, very tame at the moment.
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Again, don't get me all wrong. I think Dragonflight has a fantastic setting and with Evokers they did a great job. That doesn't spare them the criticism towards their complete lack of ambition or creativity regarding anything besides that.

[rrayy]

It absolutely does because Shadowlands, especially the longer it dragged on, was received poorly. And the "hype" surrounding Dragonflight feels very, very tame at the moment.
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Again, don't get me all wrong. I think Dragonflight has a fantastic setting and with Evokers they did a great job. That doesn't spare them the criticism towards their complete lack of ambition or creativity regarding anything besides that.

]NO it does not. IT is going to be extremely successful. People like you say this every expansion. Every expansion makes more than the last. ANd how do you know they lack ambition? Oh right, you don't like it so thy are automatically ambitionless. Ditto for creativity.

[saintminya]

imagine WANTING islands, warfronts, and torghast.

Islands were great. Warfronts should have been great, but like WoD they were abandoned before they could reach their potential. They may never have admittedly, but I do believe they could've been a worthy diversion. Unlike Islands they were unfortunately not, so I did one weekly heroic tops. I did do the world quests, particularly Darkshore, almost every day before giving up on BfA altogether not long after the final patch...

Torghast, like SL in general, was absolute trash. I'm hype for DF, and will consider it a step up if I remain subbed after the first month.

[pahbi]

This really brings up a good idea, it would be awesome if the armor and weapons were actually on mannequins in a store behind glass to create more hype for getting that armor/weapon. Maybe even a runway with your ability to request a model to walk it down and back the runway like a fashion show, lol. The problem is that there are so many types of armor that there should be the ability to request the armor you want to see in the window on a mannequin as well which would make it an interesting interactive location for the main city. One possible problem...I don't know if I have ever seen glass windows in WoW...

That would be awesome! A whole building just for window shopping gear, runways, maybe some NPC band playing music. It would be hysterical.

This issue, and many others, offers the clearest evidence yet that the next expansion will be just more of the same.

That evidence being that blizz just can't seem to do anything new. They are stuck in the 90's and have to answer to their stockholder overlords before making even the smallest change to the formula of WoW.

[Biomega]

imagine WANTING islands, warfronts, and torghast.

I went to a restaurant, and the steak I got was cooked to fuck, inedible.

Then I went there again, and this time I got no steak at all.

If I complain about that, does that mean I WANT an inedible steak?

[Caerrona]

I went to a restaurant, and the steak I got was cooked to fuck, inedible.

Then I went there again, and this time I got no steak at all.

If I complain about that, does that mean I WANT an inedible steak?

It's more like morons have gone to a "burnt steak" restaurant for the past ten years complaining about burnt steak every fucking day of their lives, even though the regulars that show up, go there... because they like burnt steak.

They continue to be morons and go back to the same restaurant even though they know they hate it and HAVE to complain about it to people who enjoy because they have nothing else going on in their lives.

[FelPlague]

I went to a restaurant, and the steak I got was cooked to fuck, inedible.

Then I went there again, and this time I got no steak at all.

If I complain about that, does that mean I WANT an inedible steak?

Except you arnt getting no steak, unless you think dragonflight has literally nothing new.

and yeah actually i rather have no steak and a good salad then a good salad and a shitty steak.

[Biomega]

and yeah actually i rather have no steak and a good salad then a good salad and a shitty steak.

Even assuming you ARE getting a good salad (and that's far from evident), you still got screwed out of a steak here. AND YOU'RE SOMEHOW DEFENDING THAT.

[khazmodan]

That would be awesome! A whole building just for window shopping gear, runways, maybe some NPC band playing music. It would be hysterical.

This issue, and many others, offers the clearest evidence yet that the next expansion will be just more of the same.

That evidence being that blizz just can't seem to do anything new. They are stuck in the 90's and have to answer to their stockholder overlords before making even the smallest change to the formula of WoW.

So true, the really creative people have left the company and all that is left are the sociopathic, cash grab, stagnant formula mediocres.

[FelPlague]

Even assuming you ARE getting a good salad (and that's far from evident), you still got screwed out of a steak here. AND YOU'RE SOMEHOW DEFENDING THAT.

Again I would rather get no steak, then a fucking burnt one my dude...
and the fact you and the other people who have spent all of one and a half seconds doing any fucking research believe, is that there is NOTHING new in dragonflight, which couldn't be fucking further from the truth.
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So true, the really creative people have left the company and all that is left are the sociopathic, cash grab, stagnant formula mediocres.

Mate it is really weird how you idolize the people included in the lawsuit, while calling the remaining people "sociopathic"