*Spoilers* HoT Story *Spoilers*

[zito]

Be warned this thread is entirely about spoilers on the story so if you want to not spoil yourself don't read.












On to the next thing I just finished the story. I felt it was strong at first but kinda dwindle near the end.

First things first though Eir and Trahearne are dead. Eir dies because Faolin stabbed her with a thorn so she couldn't get away from mordremoth. I feel like her death was... ok. Out of everyone she is the least bit interesting and has almost no character development.

Trahearne - guess what YOU kill him. It's great. Loved it. After killing mordremoth Trahearne gets a seed planted in his brain so mordremoth could be reborn but you kill him.

Now on to mordremoth. I feel like what they did with him was a cop out. He has no "body" the entire jungle is his body and he has a core center. Trahearne is connected to his brain and he connects us through the dream where we kill his mind. I mean it makes sense but this makes dragon number 2 where we are not actually fighting the dragon itself.

The fight was pretty good, it was pretty easy but long. Not hard. Interesting fair mechanics.

Sadly the story ends with that, and a cut scene of the egg hatching but ya know.

Oh and logan is in a comma /sigh

[Nyres]

Wow that entire ending just feels really forced an attempt to please the lowest common denominator. Also the jungle being an elder dragons "body" just feels like something out of a fanfic. Traherne's death feels like something they did based off the reaction to him not a logical plot they had planned since the beginning.

[Deleted]

Well that sounds rather weak...

Please tell me the final fight is atleast a bit better than the fight with zaithan?

[PACOX]

The fight is pretty involved and I can see a lot of people (think of the least common denominator in a mmo) right not people able to solo it, at least at first. Problem with the fight is that its buggy to all hell right now.

The end obviously points to LS3, I do kinda of feel that the end wasn't quite up to par with the rest of the story. Not bad but its like they could of had 1 or 2 more missions easily. He should of dies the way he was awoken, heh. The final cutscene foreshadows raids too (bunch of dragon being released into the area is going to make some tough creatures), the first boss in the BWE makes sense now.

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Wow that entire ending just feels really forced an attempt to please the lowest common denominator. Also the jungle being an elder dragons "body" just feels like something out of a fanfic. Traherne's death feels like something they did based off the reaction to him not a logical plot they had planned since the beginning.

Morde being the jungle was explained before, even shown in the trailer for the game. Trahearne's death is the same thing they did to Scarlet in LS1, Anet tweaks the story to the wants of the player base. Fans REALLY wanted Trahearne dead so he died. I kind of like that Morde was able to kill a number of big name characters. Plot armor is usually OP in a lot of fantasy stories, Anet has been killing characters off left and right.

[Fencers]

It is doubtful GW2 will ever allow players to direct fight a dragon the literal size of a mountain or an iceberg.

Some of this stuff is spoiled in game as well. I logged in a few days ago and while standing at the auction house in Hoelbrak the NPCs are toasting the deceased. I didn't do any story missions and I haven't even bought Heart of Thorns.

So there is that for those that care. I don't really.

[zito]

Well that sounds rather weak...

Please tell me the final fight is atleast a bit better than the fight with zaithan?

it is. You fight mordremoths avatar in his mind.

[Rivellana]

I love the story, it's been outstanding. As a sylvari player, I love how in depth they've made the interactions with other NPCs, how Mordremoth's whispers and influence affect your player character, and the interactions with Canach in particular. This character is also a Whispers member, so I almost lost it when a Blighted Tybalt showed up to my last fight.

That being said, I'm currently extremely frustrated with this last fight. I haven't been able to beat it yet because mine has bugged out pretty much every single time. I can't tell if some things are bugs or meant to be part of the fight. At least three times, when Braham ran over to the "rift" I'm supposed to go to, it's been bugged off the map entirely so that I have to jump off and kill myself in order to restart the fight because I can't get to the rift. Sometimes, Canach tanks the Mordremoth avatar just fine and I have no issues opening the rift. Other times, Mordremoth just will NOT let me get to that rift and stays on top of me, tossing the shiny floor line that puts torment stacks on at me or hitting me so I can't complete the rift channel. I've been killed twice on the first "flight" phase by having something just knock me out of the air between updrafts. Once, I got to the second "flight" phase, just to have Mordremoth throw a rock at me and knock me down. Once you're in the swirly stuff, you're dead. I haven't beat it yet and I don't see anyone else in the personal story LFG. Either they don't need help or they're just not that far yet.

[zito]

This character is also a Whispers member, so I almost lost it when a Blighted Tybalt showed up to my last fight.

That surprised me too. I was like TYBALT! I'm not sure how other characters get but sylvari get a couple little things. Like when rescuing logan or zolja you temp fall into the dragons control and another minion is like pick up this sword and fight for mordremoth.

All I wanted to do though was kill caithe. Tired of her shit

[Rivellana]

That surprised me too. I was like TYBALT! I'm not sure how other characters get but sylvari get a couple little things. Like when rescuing logan or zolja you temp fall into the dragons control and another minion is like pick up this sword and fight for mordremoth.

I finally got a group full of other frustrated people outside the instance. Made the mistake of starting the group though, apparently if the group leader dies, the boss bugs and you can't put the finishing touch on him. So right now, I'm dead again watching the pro players finish it, after I made them regroup with one of the good players as leader.

During the group fight when I was leader, I turned on my group members, and they killed me! LOL. I was downed and when rezzed I could run over to the rift and "cleanse" myself. I really thought that was neat too.

[zito]

I finally got a group full of other frustrated people outside the instance. Made the mistake of starting the group though, apparently if the group leader dies, the boss bugs and you can't put the finishing touch on him. So right now, I'm dead again watching the pro players finish it, after I made them regroup with one of the good players as leader.

During the group fight when I was leader, I turned on my group members, and they killed me! LOL. I was downed and when rezzed I could run over to the rift and "cleanse" myself. I really thought that was neat too.

oh that's cool for group intereaction. If I replay this though I am not picking caithe again to come along. Fucking pale tree fight was annoying. "oh hey let me just heal 1/4 of my health because you can't kill adds fast enough" fuck off

[Rivellana]

oh that's cool for group intereaction. If I replay this though I am not picking caithe again to come along. Fucking pale tree fight was annoying. "oh hey let me just heal 1/4 of my health because you can't kill adds fast enough" fuck off

Yeah that was pretty much what the group members who had chosen Caithe when solo said. They said choose Canach and Braham, who were my original choices anyways.

My fails were because I couldn't get my stupid glider to open on the air phases with my group. Not sure if it was bugged, lag, or what. I would stand over the vent and even try jumping and it just would not open.

[zito]

There are a couple small things I like. Such as the contradiction that is the jungle. Like the frogs are saying the jungle provides and has an answer but the entire jungle is mordremoths back.

The second small thing is that the Pact is gone. Literally. It's gone. Your character even says this. I just like how we are back to square one.

Also we now know the importance of the egg. Tyria could be in danger itself if all the dragons die. They release mass amounts of dragon energy that could distort the world (hello reactor) but the egg consumed mordremoths magic.

[Arlee]

Oh and logan is in a comma /sigh

That depends entirely on which one you save first. I went to Logan first and Zojja is the one in a coma... sort of curious how'll they handle that moving forward since these can be replayed. Most likely they'll both be awake and we'll just have a brief dialogue with both of them about how their recovery has been.

Also we now know the importance of the egg. Tyria could be in danger itself if all the dragons die. They release mass amounts of dragon energy that could distort the world (hello reactor) but the egg consumed mordremoths magic.

Which could be ok... or it could be really bad. Depends on a lot. I did this with a group last night and every single one of us had the reaction of "oh wow, that's not good". So it'll be really interesting to see where they take it.

About the fight itself, it's an interesting solution to the massive issues which arise when trying to do a dragon fight which feels epic but can be done with a group or solo. Though I did laugh when I first saw him, he sort of looked like a mini godzilla to me The inclusion of the you only get one life to do it is a really smart mechanic on their part, it really helps keep the fight from being too easy with a group. Though there are some bugs, like my glider didn't want to open randomly QQ. We didn't have any issue with the rifts though, and although other party members said they couldn't work the rifts I could even though I wasn't the leader of the group.

Aside from the issue I had with my glider I really like the inclusion of that as a mechanic in the fight. It is also a good example of why I don't mind them having story steps locked behind various masteries, it let's them have a lot more freedom to do different things and very mechanics up.

[Rivellana]

Though there are some bugs, like my glider didn't want to open randomly QQ.

I'm honestly really glad to hear this wasn't an issue just for me. Happened to a few of my group members too but I wasn't sure that me and the two of them weren't just bad players, because the same two guys who finished it had no issues both times.

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Well, it was better than Madness of Deathwing

[zito]

Well, it was better than Madness of Deathwing

Oh yea that fight. I agree. If we go by lore that the jungle was the entire back of mordremoth then yea the final fight was better then fighting deathwings tentacles

[Deleted]

Do we know who E is?

[orca2425]

What the heck are talking about.???

[zito]

Do we know who E is?

I was just thinking about that and nope, nothing about E yet.

[Deleted]

Poor Scruffy, no mention of him after his brave sacrifice.