Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Oh my fucking god............................................................................

what is the actual fucking point of Donald Trump and every single one of the flying monkeys of his administration.

I'll say again: if he keeps going the way he's going, he's going to be lucky if he escapes the Mussolini treatment when American's loved ones start getting sick en masse like in Italy.

Like fuck he will. It this happens, the Republican Party should, at the very least, be dead for the next few centuries.

But we all know that's not going to happen. Democrats are too scared to do anything remotely akin to the Mussolini treatment (even figuratively), and Republicans are too far gone that they've lost any ability to be self aware any longer.

[Crissi]

I've never been happier to be a Massachusetts man.

After listening to Abbot, I'm actually not that worried about Texas either. San Antonio is getting its first drive through, with houston and Dallas to follow in a week. Our Med industry is actually top notch.

Other red states, however....

[Paranoid Android]

"No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”

Biden is going to smash his skull with that particular rock. I can't wait for the swing-state ads.


"Lost a loved one to Coronavirus?"
"Trump: No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”
"Cant get tested for Coronavirus?"
"Trump: No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”
"Lost your savings and retirement in the stock market crash?"
"Trump: No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”
"Can't pay your healthcare bills after you got sick?"
"Trump: No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”

"Keeping America Great?"
"Trump: No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”

Do the Dems have the stones to play the ads (I hope so). The Dems are house cats.

[Skroe]

After listening to Abbot, I'm actually not that worried about Texas either. San Antonio is getting its first drive through, with houston and Dallas to follow in a week. Our Med industry is actually top notch.

Other red states, however....

Texas is rich enough and with enough business infrastructure it'll be perfectly capable of handling it.

Places like Mississippi and Kansas are totally screwed.

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Do the Dems have the stones to play the ads (I hope so). The Dems are house cats.

Democrats used to. Problem is a lot of contemporary millennial-GenXer democrats love to publicly masturbate to their ideology through issue-oriented messaging and are perplexed and angered when the things that turn them on don't turn on other people. The self satisfied hubris and arrogant presumption about the quality (or even necessity) of the sales job is where Democrats get beat on messaging time and time again.

Fear of loss though, is the great uniter. Which is why Republicans have long utilized it over issue-oriented message. Getting a person to wrap their head around M4A and move from hostility to openness to understanding, to agreement is a massive process that could take years. Making people get angry and afraid about Trump screwing their family in a focused way - like if their loved ones can't get tested - yeah. That'll work fast.

I've been saying this since early 2018, before the 2018 election. Democrats can't afford any artistry and elegance in fighting form in the 2018 election. They need to do all power moves to drop Trump to the floor as efficiently as possible.

Fear works. And Donald Trump just gave them the perfect message: no one is at the helm of the ship of state.

[Crissi]

Wasnt Bloomberg gonna do an ad campaign too after he dropped out? Cause knowing him, he'd absolutely be the type to run those kidns of ads.

[Fahrenheit]

After listening to Abbot, I'm actually not that worried about Texas either. San Antonio is getting its first drive through, with houston and Dallas to follow in a week. Our Med industry is actually top notch.

Other red states, however....

Texas has the luxury of having some big bluish cities with money to burn and tech industry.

[Skroe]

Wasnt Bloomberg gonna do an ad campaign too after he dropped out? Cause knowing him, he'd absolutely be the type to run those kidns of ads.

Bloomberg is spinning up operations in the six swing states that matter (Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina). That process is ongoing. He has been running anti-Trump adds in Wisconsin and Pennsylvannia almost wall to wall for months though.

He's shuttered / shuttering operations in the other states (like California and New York) to focus all his money in the six states that will decide the election.

If Biden wins Michigan and Pennsylvania (and he probably will) he just has to win one of the other four to make Trump a one term President.

Bloomberg's been by far the best add maker of this election cycle (and probably the last one too), so there is hope. But that's what you get when you run a campaign like a company and not a volunteer operation. You actually get to hire the best people. And that's actually one of the Democrat's big problems nowdays. Many of their best campaigners and ad makers are basically donating their time or taking a pay cut from private industry.

I know people lament money in politics, but people of talent are also very, very expensive and campaigns don't raise the kind of money needed to employ them until basically June. Bloomberg gets to do it with his personal wealth. But nobody else does.

[Themius]

Oh my fucking god............................................................................

what is the actual fucking point of Donald Trump and every single one of the flying monkeys of his administration.

I'll say again: if he keeps going the way he's going, he's going to be lucky if he escapes the Mussolini treatment when American's loved ones start getting sick en masse like in Italy.

He's lucky if he can escape corona himself.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/army-s...ronavirus-prep

The army says it's $1B short on coronavirus preparation funds. I wonder where they could get that kind of money...maybe it's on a wall somewhere or something.

[Fahrenheit]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/army-s...ronavirus-prep

The army says it's $1B short on coronavirus preparation funds. I wonder where they could get that kind of money...maybe it's on a wall somewhere or something.

But think of all the Corona toting Mexicans that “wall” will stop.

[Skroe]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/army-s...ronavirus-prep

The army says it's $1B short on coronavirus preparation funds. I wonder where they could get that kind of money...maybe it's on a wall somewhere or something.

Agreed. The Army doesn't get an additional cent of funding IMO. They can raid the military construction budget for that too.

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He's lucky if he can escape corona himself.

The universe isn't that fortunate to bestow upon us that level of ironic punishment.

[Masark]

Places like Mississippi and Kansas are totally screwed.

Speaking of Kansas:

Sumner Community Hospital closes its doors tonight with no forewarning

[Edge-]

Not Trump, but want a fun trip back in time?

https://twitter.com/MikeGrunwald/sta...25100169334786

2009, Susan Collins pushed to eliminate $870M from the stimulus plan entirely, which would have gone towards preparing for flu pandemics. It went to community health clinics after Lieberman convinced her otherwise.

She's been, and still is, a gigantic piece of shit.

[Zan15]

Texas is rich enough and with enough business infrastructure it'll be perfectly capable of handling it.

Places like Mississippi and Kansas are totally screwed.

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naaaaaah, like everything else they will get extra funding from the feds while other states that have much higher state taxes will get the shaft and have to basically pay for their virus expenditures. doesn't that sound like something evil they keep railing against.

you know for example like Medicaid where a state like NY/CA/CT/NJ (notice a trend yet)/and 10 more get 50 cents on the dollar for all standard Medicaid membership cost while Mississippi at a minimum gets 77.76 cents and then some.


Mississippi : .7776 with 3.5 multiplier #1 in the country
Kansas: .5968 1.48 #28

At the bottom.....see any trends?

Illinois 0.5096 1.04
Alaska 0.5 1
California 0.5 1
Colorado 0.5 1
Connecticut 0.5 1
Maryland 0.5 1
Massachusetts 0.5 1
Minnesota 0.5 1
New Hampshire 0.5 1
New Jersey 0.5 1
New York 0.5 1
Virginia 0.5 1
Washington 0.5 1
Wyoming 0.5 1


And a .27 difference in perspective for places like NY/CA is tens of billions of dollars a year. Gee now how do they possibly make up the difference.


at the top you ask? See if you can spot a trend here?

Mississippi 0.7776 3.5
West Virginia 0.7499 3
New Mexico 0.7346 2.77
Alabama 0.7258 2.65
Kentucky 0.7205 2.58
Arkansas 0.7123 2.48
South Carolina 0.7063 2.4
Idaho 0.7041 2.38
Arizona 0.7001 2.33
District of Columbia 0.7 2.33
Oklahoma 0.6799 2.12
Utah 0.6752 2.08
Louisiana 0.6742 2.07
North Carolina 0.674 2.07
Georgia 0.6703 2.03
Tennessee 0.661 1.95
Indiana 0.6583 1.93
Montana 0.656 1.91
Missouri 0.6496 1.85
Michigan 0.6408 1.78
Maine 0.6369 1.75
Ohio 0.6363 1.75
Nevada 0.633 1.72
Florida 0.6196 1.63
Texas 0.6181 1.62

[Thepersona]

I've never been happier to be a Massachusetts man.

You dont know how relieved i feel about living in the butt of the planet, and that only affluent people are getting infected (via bringing it from europe)

[We are covfefe]

Well two sides agreed to the Corona virus relief bill. Has to wait until Moscow Mitch comes back for a vote, though. Doubt it'll pass, though Trump agreed to sign it if it reaches his desk.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/81540...UI02bWA2KBfKQg

[Paranoid Android]

Texas is rich enough and with enough business infrastructure it'll be perfectly capable of handling it.

Places like Mississippi and Kansas are totally screwed.

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Democrats used to. Problem is a lot of contemporary millennial-GenXer democrats love to publicly masturbate to their ideology through issue-oriented messaging and are perplexed and angered when the things that turn them on don't turn on other people. The self satisfied hubris and arrogant presumption about the quality (or even necessity) of the sales job is where Democrats get beat on messaging time and time again.

Fear of loss though, is the great uniter. Which is why Republicans have long utilized it over issue-oriented message. Getting a person to wrap their head around M4A and move from hostility to openness to understanding, to agreement is a massive process that could take years. Making people get angry and afraid about Trump screwing their family in a focused way - like if their loved ones can't get tested - yeah. That'll work fast.

I've been saying this since early 2018, before the 2018 election. Democrats can't afford any artistry and elegance in fighting form in the 2018 election. They need to do all power moves to drop Trump to the floor as efficiently as possible.

Fear works. And Donald Trump just gave them the perfect message: no one is at the helm of the ship of state.

Interesting. This talk should probably be in the Dem Primary thread but my response is I think its the old Dems who are the house cats. The so called corporate-Democrats, who really don't want to upset the boat and sorta play nice with Republicans since their bread is being both buttered by BIG money.

I can agree with your statement above and again won't get to deep since this belongs in another thread, but in short the Dems don't like to use the stick to bludgeon, they rather use to maybe poke you or just to show you to say they might use it.

[Skroe]

You dont know how relieved i feel about living in the butt of the planet, and that only affluent people are getting infected (via bringing it from europe)

You know, not to make too political a point, but progressives in America have been saying for years about how we need to all shift to a more communal mode of living. More people in urban areas; Multi-family housing and instituting single-family housing bans (a quixotic American thing); public transport instead of cars; Sharing economy and not ownership. Partly to fight climate change but also partly because it's foundational to a socialist-in-all-but-name way of life. It's gels very nicely with their politics in a kind of positive feed back loop. It's why cities are liberal. The closer people live to each other and more cosmopolitan the mode of living, the mutualism acts as the principal motivator in political decisions. If we all lived in cities, we would have had M4A 70 years ago.

But yeah... haha about that.... I'm feeling pretty damn good about now living on my two acres of land in the country in a town of 18,000 people in similar properties, 25 minutes from work by car. I have no intention of getting sick, and moreover I have no intention of seeing the members of my family over 60 getting sick.

Large numbers of people in close proximity is always dangerous. The positives never outweigh the negatives, and infectious diseases spreading uncontrollably in cities has scarcely changed since ancient times. Geographic isolation won't prevent infection but it will certainly slow the spread.

So all hail suburbia.

[Belize]

Due to Trump being a complete idiot, its pretty clear we need to rely on state and local authorities. The feds cant be counted on until someone that's actually competent is in office.

For once I'm thankful to be in Texas.

I don't agree with Abott on everything, but he's not 100% retarded all the time.

[Crissi]

For once I'm thankful to be in Texas.

I don't agree with Abott on everything, but he's not 100% retarded all the time.

yeah I liked what was presented by him today. He was certainly more coherent. This will prob boost re-election chances if he chooses to go again. Unlike trump, where this will likely be his anchor.