Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left, MSM, and even WHO were highly critical of Trump regarding the travel ban at the time.

Were they? Again, please source so we can discuss this.

[Flarelaine]

Trump uses words like "strong" constantly and he isn't that, either.

Someone described Trump as a weak man's idea of a strong man, a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man... and it could be carried on in that vein.

[unfilteredJW]

No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left, MSM, and even WHO were highly critical of Trump regarding the travel ban at the time. Now we see that the ban was the right thing to do and this action likely saved numerous lives. But here you sit with your godlike hindsight and say he should have done it sooner. Please quote any posts of yours prior to Jan 31 where you advocated a travel ban sooner. Otherwise, please stop with your horseshit revisionism.

Show. Your. Work.

[Acidbaron]

Ok, how is withdrawing funds from the WHO going to change anything? I mean, wouldn't that push them even closer to China?

This American administration is good at creating self fulfilling prophecies.

[Machismo]

No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left, MSM, and even WHO were highly critical of Trump regarding the travel ban at the time. Now we see that the ban was the right thing to do and this action likely saved numerous lives. But here you sit with your godlike hindsight and say he should have done it sooner. Please quote any posts of yours prior to Jan 31 where you advocated a travel ban sooner. Otherwise, please stop with your horseshit revisionism.

Are you now trying to shift the burden of evidence on your own argument?

[Breccia]

virtually everyone.

Literally quoting Navarro. Also, Navarro is wrong.

Hydroxychloroquine is being experimentally tested in NY hospitals at the doctor's discretion. The correct answer is "a few thousand". Not "virtually everyone".

Navarro is lying. You are lying by proxy. Please post construcitvely.

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No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left

*LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

I gave you a time limit weeks ago to find at least one specific Democrat who opposed the travel ban.

You chose not to do it. Probably because you suspected such evidence does not exist.

By failing to even try, you have admitted this statement is likely false. What else did failing to look tell you about yourself and what you know about Trump?

You should probably take a break. Everyone here knows the things you're saying are not based in fact, including you. Maybe if you posted actual evidence instead of unsubstantiated sound bites, your argument might carry weight. Right now, it's losing to a helium balloon on the moon.

[Acidbaron]

No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left, MSM, and even WHO were highly critical of Trump regarding the travel ban at the time. Now we see that the ban was the right thing to do and this action likely saved numerous lives. But here you sit with your godlike hindsight and say he should have done it sooner. Please quote any posts of yours prior to Jan 31 where you advocated a travel ban sooner. Otherwise, please stop with your horseshit revisionism.

Earlier travel bans in place had to do with immigration, other travel bans enforced were highly ineffective as it singled out certain nations and it was not followed through on as at one point the administration declared the virus "just a flu", what can sum up everything wrong with this administration so pre-occupied with spinning the story into something positive for the re-election year that they are missing their priorities and can't even tell reality and propaganda from each other any more, something you clearly also have fallen victim to.

If you argue now that a travel ban should have be enforced to control this virus you also have to condemn this administration poor handling of the situation as they called it "just a flu" and knew beforehand and acted not. To this day they are not even capable of bringing forth a coherent message as the demented fool pretending to be president has no idea what is even going on.

[Lenonis]

That and not interrupting actual medical experts and keeping them quiet when they might counter what he has to say.

I really wonder if there is anyone who really doesn't think Trump is a narcissist. If nothing else this situation has shown that quite clearly.

[Dontrike]

So you actually think the travel ban was a bad idea? Please explain why.

You mean the thing it took him months to do after being told about the virus? Way to go for him doing the right thing long after he should have. Yay for participation trophies.

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Trump announced the travel ban on Jan. 31. The first COVID-19 death in the US was Feb 29. Since you seem to be so incredibly wise in matters of hindsight....how much sooner should Trump have implemented the "racist" and "xenophobic" travel ban?

How about when Wuhan was shutdown? How about when other countries were getting it? There's about half a dozen of those if you take a moment to think about it.

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Why would they do a trial on a "bullshit medication"? Apparently my point was lost on you.

Are you asking why they would test something? Really?

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No...the point is that, instead of being supportive, the left, MSM, and even WHO were highly critical of Trump regarding the travel ban at the time.

You're point is that some people were meant to Trump? Fucking seriously? Out of all the shit that's happened due to Trump's inaction your point is that some people were mean to him? Deaths don't matter 'cause the "evil MSM" called Trump names.

So glad you're focusing on the important shit.

[Tenlo]

So I did some quick googlefu about what the good Doc is on about and found nothing. Worst I found was a time article saying the ban isn't enough dated March 12th. So yea once again he's lying

[DocSavageFan]

Were they? Again, please source so we can discuss this.

Pelosi: Trump's expanded travel ban is 'outrageous, un-American' and threatens 'rule of law'
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...threatens-rule

Schumer: Democrats will try to undo Trump ban
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...efugees-234334

Who Says It’s Not Safe to Travel to China?
https://www.realclearworld.com/2020/...na_483682.html

Past epidemics prove fighting coronavirus with travel bans is a mistake
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/23/210783...rus-travel-ban

Some Experts Worry As A Germ-Phobic Trump Confronts A Growing Epidemic
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/10/u...-epidemic.html

Health experts warn China travel ban will hinder coronavirus response
https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/31/...-would-suffer/

Coronavirus quarantine, travel ban could backfire, experts fear
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-travel-110750

13th Case Of Coronavirus In United States Confirmed; Experts Worry About Overreaction From Germ-Phobic Trump
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/13t...-phobic-trump/

The US coronavirus travel ban could backfire. Here's how
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/healt...ban/index.html


“The WHO doesn’t recommend and actually opposes any restrictions for travel and trade or other measures against China. If anyone is thinking about taking measures, it’s going to be wrong.” - Tedros Adhanom (WHO Director-General) - January 30, 2020

“Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit." - Tedros Adhanom (WHO Director-General) - February 4, 2020

"The United States and other countries around the world have put in place unprecedented travel restrictions in response to the virus,” he said. “These measures have not proven to improve public health outcomes, rather they tend to cause economic harm, and to stoke racist and discriminatory responses to this epidemic.” - Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) - Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman - February 5, 2020

[Mekh]

Pelosi: Trump's expanded travel ban is 'outrageous, un-American' and threatens 'rule of law'
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...threatens-rule

Schumer: Democrats will try to undo Trump ban
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...efugees-234334

Who Says It’s Not Safe to Travel to China?
https://www.realclearworld.com/2020/...na_483682.html

Past epidemics prove fighting coronavirus with travel bans is a mistake
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/23/210783...rus-travel-ban

Some Experts Worry As A Germ-Phobic Trump Confronts A Growing Epidemic
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/10/u...-epidemic.html

Health experts warn China travel ban will hinder coronavirus response
https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/31/...-would-suffer/

Coronavirus quarantine, travel ban could backfire, experts fear
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-travel-110750

13th Case Of Coronavirus In United States Confirmed; Experts Worry About Overreaction From Germ-Phobic Trump
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/13t...-phobic-trump/

The US coronavirus travel ban could backfire. Here's how
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/healt...ban/index.html


"The United States and other countries around the world have put in place unprecedented travel restrictions in response to the virus,” he said. “These measures have not proven to improve public health outcomes, rather they tend to cause economic harm, and to stoke racist and discriminatory responses to this epidemic.” - Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) - Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman -

“The WHO doesn’t recommend and actually opposes any restrictions for travel and trade or other measures against China. If anyone is thinking about taking measures, it’s going to be wrong.” - Tedros Adhanom (WHO Director-General) - January 30, 2020

“Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit." - Tedros Adhanom (WHO Director-General) - February 4, 2020

One of these sources is from 2017, you fucking moron.

[Adam Jensen]

Wow, MMO C actually has one of these anti-Trump shitshow lunacy threads huh ?

Let me guess, he's ancient and could be on a beach drinkinh cocktails, circumvented two utter failure attempts at getting him out of office which only showed how corrupt the media and govn't is, brokered peace between two implacable countries after literally shitting on the North one and its leader for months and brought unemployment rates pre-corona to historic lows.

YEAH, BUT HE SAYS MEAN THINGS!!!!!!!

This is from a non-USA resident BTW, you people have no idea how well you have it going. Our European countries rape and crime statistics have jumped 400%+ because we let anyone and everyone in, meanwhile you have a leader fighting for your interests and security and you make threads like this.

Haha......
[Infraction]

Gotta love when non-Americans chime in as if they understand our domestic issues than the Americans who actually live here.

If you think Donald is fighting for any interests other than your own, I have a border fence in Texas to sell to you.

[Breccia]

Pelosi: Trump's expanded travel ban is 'outrageous, un-American' and threatens 'rule of law'

barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States

You either posted without reading, or you are lying.

[unfilteredJW]

So I did some quick googlefu about what the good Doc is on about and found nothing. Worst I found was a time article saying the ban isn't enough dated March 12th. So yea once again he's lying

It gets better. Literally right after you posted this.

Hilarious. What a pair of clown shoes.

[DocSavageFan]

So I did some quick googlefu about what the good Doc is on about and found nothing. Worst I found was a time article saying the ban isn't enough dated March 12th. So yea once again he's lying

You're horrible at using Google it seems.

[unfilteredJW]

You're horrible at using Google it seems.

Projection, thy name is TJ.

[DocSavageFan]

I clicked the first link. This is what it says: 'The statement comes after the Trump administration announced it would restrict the ability of immigrants from Nigeria, Myanmar, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Sudan and Tanzania to get certain immigration visas.'

You are not even trying. How pathetic. Fucking liar!!!

Did you read any of the other links directly related to the China travel ban instead of the subsequent travel bans which were also highly criticized?

[Acidbaron]

Someone has to explain to him how articles work, because i think he believes linking the title of random ones from one article, lol.

[Tenlo]

You're horrible at using Google it seems.

Then prove me wrong googlesempai. Back up your claim I am more than willing to admit I am wrong

EDIT: just saw links.. lololol c'mon man