Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[beanman12345]

Team Trump defends Trump slowing down testing.



"A different way" other than, of course, providing money, supplies, or people. So, moral support?



So, the states will run it. Are there funds coming for state governments?



Didn't think so.

Unrelated: Nunes tried to sue Twitter because of parody accounts that mocked him. The case was dismissed because Constitution.

Ahh thank you very much for the update. I was curious how his lawsuit against his cow was going.

[Thekri]

Trump administration ending support for 7 Texas testing sites as coronavirus cases spike

Is this idiot trying to lose Texas in the general? Because if he is, I would really appreciate it if he could try doing it in a way that didn't kill so many Texans. Maybe he could eat a tofu burger or something, that should do it. But taking medical support from them during in a pandemic... goddamn. That is like withholding federal support from millions of Americans after a massive hurricane...

[Canpinter]

For someone who has the literal job of making laws, the man does not seem to understand how laws work. I understand the tactic of suing some poor nobody to scare him into silence (Not that it worked, Devin Nunes' Cow is made of higher quality beef), but what the hell did he hope to accomplish by throwing a suit this flimsy at Twitter? They have actual lawyers, they don't care.

So he can tell all his supporters that he tried to fight the evil lib cucks at twitter but the deep state courts thru it out.

[Omega10]

Thoughts and prayers?

That's about it. The word smithing that the White House used to describe what they are doing is incredibly convoluted, dishonest, and downright evil.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...Qzp?li=BBnb7Kz

Title: Trump 'not withdrawing support' from COVID-19 testing sites, official says

From the title, I thought it meant that the White House reversed itself.
Here is the excerpt:

The Trump administration is not abandoning federally funded coronavirus testing sites, the administration's COVID-19 testing "czar" said Wednesday.

Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for the Department of Health and Human Services, said that even though the government will stop directly funding 13 community-based coronavirus testing sites, the amount of testing will not decrease, and the sites should not lose resources.

"We are not withdrawing support," Giroir said. "We are providing federal support in a different way."

Giroir said the sites, which are located in Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado and Pennsylvania, will be supported by the $11 billion Congress allocated for testing and contact tracing, just like hundreds of other sites across the country.

"We have worked carefully to make sure that [the 13 sites] could sunset without losing any services to any people," Giroir said.

Giroir said those 13 sites will remain open and will be operated by the states. He said governors were aware of the plan to transition to state control, which had been in place since April.

So basically, the White House *IS* cutting off federal funds from these sites, just as the ones in Texas and California need it the most. It could be argued that redistributing funding from New Jersey to Texas and California is wise based on where the funding is most needed. But Texas and California, among others, could use all the help they can get.

His weasel words are disgusting.

[Thekri]

That's about it. The word smithing that the White House used to describe what they are doing is incredibly convoluted, dishonest, and downright evil.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...Qzp?li=BBnb7Kz

Title: Trump 'not withdrawing support' from COVID-19 testing sites, official says

From the title, I thought it meant that the White House reversed itself.
Here is the excerpt:



So basically, the White House *IS* cutting off federal funds from these sites, just as the ones in Texas and California need it the most. It could be argued that redistributing funding from New Jersey to Texas and California is wise based on where the funding is most needed. But Texas and California, among others, could use all the help they can get.

His weasel words are disgusting.

This sentence really gives away that Trump hired a corporate drone.

We have worked carefully to make sure that [the 13 sites] could sunset without losing any services to any people

Without even looking, I can tell this guy was hired off the board of some big company. "Sunset". That is the perfect weasel word people only use when they are ending something they really shouldn't end. Nobody uses words like that when they are actually proud of what they are doing.

Trump promised to run the company like a company. One of the only promises he kept. Using weasel words while letting your people die is about the most corporate thing possible. Right up there with giving dividends back to your richest shareholders (*cough* tax cuts)

[arandomuser]

so covid increasing again
economy in free fall

working man in ohio and michigan seen this chart

and decided he had so much "economic anxiety" that he had to vote for trump

im just gonna saay it
the middle class never did have it that bad, if you are making 40-50k a year your doing pretty good, even during obamas tenure..
actual working poor( which happens to be much more diverse than the middle class) still voted for hillary
i seen some trumper post on twitter and he was like "lefties say the middle class are privileged!" and im just thinking, yes actually they are,

[Edge-]

https://www.businessinsider.com/madi...primary-2020-6

Apparently Trump's endorsement is still not the Midas Touch he wants it to be. His preferred candidate for a NC seat lost to a 24 year old with no political experience in the primary. He wasn't running in opposition to Trump, and I know very little about him and his positions, but it's incredible to me how little weight Trump seems to have when it comes to getting his preferred candidates elected.

[Breccia]

Is this idiot trying to lose Texas in the general?

I think this is actually something financial. Like, Congress voted for funds, Trump said "well surely the lethal outbreak will be gone in the heat of June, so we'll fund until then" and now they don't want to spend more taxpayer money to keep taxpayers from dying. Also, Trump is pushing the "the virus is going away", you saw it at both rallies, and you can't push that narrative if you insist on more testing places. But it's more the former, I think.

[Masark]

I know very little about him and his positions

https://ballotpedia.org/Madison_Cawthorn

"I’m running because our faith, our freedoms and our values are under assault from coastal elites and leftists like Nancy Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."

"I strongly oppose the Democrats’ plans to create socialized medicine."

"I oppose tax increases. We don’t need more taxes. Government takes enough of our hard-earned money. Each of our families live within their means, and we must demand the same of our government. "

"The world is a dangerous place. President Reagan rightfully showed the world that America is safe when America’s defense is strong. Defending our national security is not optional. "

Supporting our American values of faith, family, and freedom and combating the rise of socialist sentiment in our culture.

"I'm CEO of a real estate company and I live on a coast, but I'm definitely not one of them coastal elites ya'all!"

[Breccia]

The nation is in the middle of an escalating lethal virus outbreak. Trump has said the virus is going away, that it's just one person from China we'll be fine, that it's a hoax to make him look bad, kung flu, CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS.

So naturally, his next step is to destroy the ACA to make sure the damage is total.

As a reminder, the biggest remaining part of the ACA is "health insurance can't kick you off for costing too much". If that's no longer a problem, guess what?

Trump probably could have moved earlier, but there's a deadline Thursday and if he doesn't file he can't proceed. Simply put, he can either adhere to his campaign promise and push forward to strip health care from millions of sick people, or he can say he's saving health care for his voters but admit that the ACA is a good idea.

I say, the first. He's a sociopath.

[pathora44]

"I'm CEO of a real estate company and I live on a coast, but I'm definitely not one of them coastal elites ya'all!"

Jesus Christ that kid looks like he has lived off the silver spoon of mommy and daddy his entire life. Either gifted his company from daddy or given a shit ton of money to start it.

[Mekkle]

My father now believes that slowing down testing or out right stopping it because trump said it, says number of cases are extremely inflated and that the only way to get rid of it is grow an immunity to it, and it will pass soon. He's lucky i love my mother enough to let him come over too. That is what these people are thinking and it is driving me mad. Imagine coming up with your own solution to line up with your ideology and your only source is "it all adds up" and offer 0 explanation why. And on the rare occasion they bring a source they don't even read and it proves their logic wrong seemingly 100% of the time and they only linked it because its headline sounded like it supported them.

Trump supporters are fucking maniacs.

I need a drink.

[cubby]

My father now believes that slowing down testing or out right stopping it because trump said it, says number of cases are extremely inflated and that the only way to get rid of it is grow an immunity to it, and it will pass soon. He's lucky i love my mother enough to let him come over too. That is what these people are thinking and it is driving me mad. Imagine coming up with your own solution to line up with your ideology and your only source is "it all adds up" and offer 0 explanation why. And on the rare occasion they bring a source they don't even read and it proves their logic wrong seemingly 100% of the time and they only linked it because its headline sounded like it supported them.

Trump supporters are fucking maniacs.

I need a drink.

That really, really, REALLY fucking sucks, man. Family, too - lol re loving your mother enough to allow him over. Do you end up biting your tongue or having it out with him or a horrible combination of both?

In regards to Trump fitting his beliefs into facts and saying that's the solution while literally denying science, it won't be the end of the United States, but it could be the start of the end of the American Dream. I saw a meme yesterday about how the coronavirus could be eradicated from other countries, because of their lockdowns and listening to science and experts, while in the United States, the pandemic could just become a part of our reality - never really ending, and changing our society irretrievably.

I think I need a drink, too.

[Breccia]

the only way to get rid of it is grow an immunity to it, and it will pass soon.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-overview.html

We do not know yet if people who recover from COVID-19 can get infected again. Scientists are working to understand this.

Show him the link, remind him it's Trump's CDC.

Then remind him about it again in a month when cases and deaths are still high.

[Stormspark]

That really, really, REALLY fucking sucks, man. Family, too - lol re loving your mother enough to allow him over. Do you end up biting your tongue or having it out with him or a horrible combination of both?

In regards to Trump fitting his beliefs into facts and saying that's the solution while literally denying science, it won't be the end of the United States, but it could be the start of the end of the American Dream. I saw a meme yesterday about how the coronavirus could be eradicated from other countries, because of their lockdowns and listening to science and experts, while in the United States, the pandemic could just become a part of our reality - never really ending, and changing our society irretrievably.

I think I need a drink, too.

I'm to the point where I'm outright cutting off family members for supporting Trump. People that supported him in 2016 but realized how naive they were and stopped supporting him, I can deal with. People who support him NOW are Nazis and I treat them as such. So far it's just been extended family (two cousins), but I have deleted/blocked 2 and told them I no longer consider them family. Ever since then, noone has even mentioned politics around me.

[Masark]

show him the link, remind him it's trump's cdc.

deeeeeeppppp staaaaaattteeeee!!!!

[Benggaul]

The US topped 38k new cases, the second highest daily total for the duration of the pandemic. Just over 800 deaths--essentially the same as the previous Wednesday. The decline of the daily death totals appears to be stopping and new cases, even in consideration of increased testing, is increasing enough to suggest that a large portion of the US is well and truly fucked.

Texas and Florida shattered new cases totals, California came within a few of 5k again and I stopped looking past that because I was getting so angry my leg was throbbing and I don't want to jeopardize getting my 40+ staples removed tomorrow.

This TRUMP SHITSHOW is fucked, and if those responsible aren't dragged from their respective legislative mansions come November via the ballot box, then I hope I'm still around to see them dragged out by the people they are fucking over.

Stay safe, folks.

[Thepersona]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-overview.html



Show him the link, remind him it's Trump's CDC.

Then remind him about it again in a month when cases and deaths are still high.

Inmunity from covid is at least for 3 months afaik. ATM they're investigating if we get memory t-cells for a longer period of time (as antibodies naturally decay after a few months, and that's what happens in every infection that's successfully fought).

And yes, herd inmunity would mean 100s of thousands of more corpses in the US, even with an IFR of 0.1%-0.5%

[Breccia]

WV Gov. Justice fires his Dept of Health head for, if I'm reading this correctly, lying and counting the cases far lower.

If we were on our game here, in DHHR (Department of Health and Human Resources) and Dr. Slemp’s office, if we’re on our game and you’re listening to the governor say that there’s six active cases at Huttonsville and you’re looking at the reports that you’re putting together and sending them to me on active cases and your looking at Randolph County and they’re reporting a hundred-and-some-odd cases then you’re not doing your job

[Omega10]

I think this is actually something financial. Like, Congress voted for funds, Trump said "well surely the lethal outbreak will be gone in the heat of June, so we'll fund until then" and now they don't want to spend more taxpayer money to keep taxpayers from dying. Also, Trump is pushing the "the virus is going away", you saw it at both rallies, and you can't push that narrative if you insist on more testing places. But it's more the former, I think.

It's a little of both, but Trump and his supporters are most definitely pushing the "virus is going away" narrative. Which, for practical purposes, is the single most dangerous and foolish narrative that can be pursued at this time. My bet is that they will double down on this narrative as long as they can. The governor of Texas may be coming close to his limit since Texas has turned out SO bad so fast.

Florida let republicans steal the governorship for the republican, just like Georgia did, and now both states are paying a huge price.