Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[arandomuser]

Wait...a youtube """"documentary"""" was actually airing on television in the first place?

well sinclair stated they werent sharing the documentary itself atleast in its entirety was but was forcing an eric bolling ( eric bolling was so bad he got fired from fox) interview. now i dont know the details but i imagine that interview is a complete softball fluff interview considering sinclairs owner is pro trump and is literallly trying to create a pro trump state media

[arandomuser]

Did it ever occur to you during your 9,678 posts of dogshit that no one actually cares what you think and you might be better off doing someting productive?

and thats why your banned

[Felya]

and thats why your banned

He is banned because that was likely his 9,679th account created... the dude creates 2 to 3 accounts per day. As I keep saying, this loyalty to Trump is horrifying... like... why?

[Elegiac]

A transcript of two things:

Say what you want about America. Land of the free, home of the brave. We’ve got some dumb-ass motherfuckers floating around this country. Dumb-ass motherfuckers, you know.

The real owners. The big, wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians… they’re irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. YOU DON’T. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. YOU HAVE OWNERS. THEY OWN YOU. THEY OWN *EVERYTHING*! They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, and city halls. They got the judges in their back pocket. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear!

THEY’VE GOT YOU BY THE BALLS! They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed. Well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest. That’s right.

It’s a BIG CLUB…AND YOU AIN’T IN IT! You and I are not in the big club! By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head. And their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy…

THEY DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU! THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU. AT ALL. AT ALL. AT ALL! Yeah. You know. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every day. Because the owners of this country know the truth… It’s called the American dream. Because you have to be asleep to believe it.

The first being George Carlin's "Dumb Americans" segment from Life is Worth Losing in November 2005. Let that sink in for how little has changed.

The second being that of the latest in a series of advertisements produced by ElevenFilms of "Midnight In Washington" fame. The imagery overlaid with Carlin's speech is absolutely damning about the present state of America.

[Dontrike]

Weekends are for golfing.

Weekdays are for golfing too.

[SirBeef]

He is banned because that was likely his 9,679th account created... the dude creates 2 to 3 accounts per day. As I keep saying, this loyalty to Trump is horrifying... like... why?

Obviously white privilege, racism, either is unemployed or in a job where an undocumented minority can be hired in at under market wages to easily replace him, lives in his mom's basement, and has no other outlet that takes his opinions seriously since reddit is banning all the typical places he he visits for an echo chamber of BS.

[Breccia]

Are you being forced to teach in person during a pandemic?

Lucky for me, I live in New York. I will be teaching remotely, but will visit the office time to time. For my profession, I'm far more fortunate than many/most.

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I don't know if we covered this at the time, and sorry, but I'm not caffienated enough to use this forums search engine to find it.

Between 1.2 and 1.7 million American taxypaying citizens didn't get a relief check the first time because they were married to someone who wasn't a citizen yet. Not just "their non-citizen spouse didn't get it" they didn't get it. Of course they sued. I do not believe the lawsuit is concluded yet.

But that was April/May. Surely the GOP's clear, obvious stance about America Americans for America MAGA means they will stick with their principles and --

GOP senators push for stimulus checks to almost 2M excluded Americans

...what?

Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Thom Tillis (N.C.) want to ensure that U.S. citizens married to foreign nationals without a Social Security number receive the same $1,200 direct payments that tens of millions of other Americans received earlier this year.

At the direction of the White House, that group of about 1.7 million Americans was excluded from the CARES Act that provided checks and payments, according to sources with knowledge of the March negotiations.

Rubio, who introduced legislation in June along with Tillis to rectify the matter, is now fighting to include their measure in the forthcoming GOP coronavirus relief package.

"Senator Rubio believes that no American should be denied a federal stimulus check because they are married to someone who is not a U.S. citizen," a spokeswoman for Rubio said Thursday.

Now why would the GOP, pushing hard for the Wall and blocking visas and...oh, right. They're losing in the polls. In Florida in particular, Trump and therefore the Party of Trump are down by double digits. Biden leads NC and has for some time, but admittedly not by much there. The GOP is desperate for anything they can do to swap narratives from "we hate brown people" to "I didn't mean it baby, come on, don't be like that".

They've basically lost the African-American vote. Trump supporters are shooting them, dressing up like the soldiers they aren't and "providing security" for statues of Confederate traitors, or just running them over like Tump's Nazi supporters did. Trump's photo op did not help. The high-profile death of a civil rights icon which, as we've seen, half the GOP didn't recognize, didn't help either.

It's not looking great with women, either, even white women. It might have to do with the supporters of the Pussy Grabber in Chief calling them "fucking bitches" in public effectively under oath. Or, their push to make birth control harder to get. For some mysterious reason /s the gender gap in 2018 was big and there's no reason to believe it's smaller now.

So that leaves Asian-Americans, who they could --

CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS.

Nevermind. So that leaves the Hispanic vote, which demographically is being hammered by Trump's inaction on the lethal outbreak and called non-American drug-selling rapists by the leader of their own party. It's going to be an uphill climb, but the other option is free solo climbing up vertical cliffs.

So we'll see if enough of the GOP suddenly realize Americans vote even if, especially if, they're married to immigrants. If they do, let's see how Trump's base feels when Trump is forced to sign such relief into law. Will they, too, stick to their principles and denounce the socialist welfare going to their fellow Americans in need? Or wil this be yet another heel-turn they're forced to follow, while wearing second-hand masks made for Trump's campaign by Chinese sweat shops?

[Benggaul]

Fuck Florida and particularly DeSantis.

But the crisis in Florida has been especially acute, infectious-disease specialists say, because politics have dictated the response at crucial junctures — never more so than with the state’s reopening, which was cast by the governor as a return to normal rather than as a new and even more precarious phase of the pandemic.

Trump told aides that Florida’s early success gave other states a justification to reopen, according to three administration officials. Meanwhile, DeSantis quickly turned presidential rhetoric into gubernatorial orders, all while rejecting measures, including a statewide mask mandate and an extended stay-at-home order, that helped other states contain their outbreaks.

Officials involved in the local health and emergency response say DeSantis has selectively highlighted favorable metrics, such as a decline in the median age of people who are testing positive, rather than developing more serious mitigation strategies.

“I think we’re on the right course,” he said as cases surpassed 400,000 and he continued to push for schools to open for in-person classes in a few weeks.
Some on the front lines are drawing different conclusions.

“The numbers are up, my man,” said Frank Rollason, the emergency management director in hard-hit Miami-Dade County. “They speak for themselves.”

[unfilteredJW]

Fuck Florida and particularly DeSantis.

I expect his narrative to turn around after Memorial Day. Which also happens to be the end of tourist season and when the money dries up across the state.

But that’s the GOP. Money > Things > People.

[Ursus]

I expect his narrative to turn around after Memorial Day. Which also happens to be the end of tourist season and when the money dries up across the state.

But that’s the GOP. Money > Things > People.

You mean Labor Day I think. But yeah, Florida must be seriously regretting electing that absolute moron for governor over Andrew Gillum.

[unfilteredJW]

You mean Labor Day I think. But yeah, Florida must be seriously regretting electing that absolute moron for governor over Andrew Gillum.

You'd figure after 28 years I wouldn't mix those two up.

Memorial Day is when we let the hordes in and began this terrible experiment.

And I'm in a county that went 86% Trump. No, they don't.

[Breccia]

Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!

In some places job declines, job increases have been affected, I don't deny it, but it’s being made up by people calling back employees. So the joblessness rate is going to fall.

You can argue about the speed of [recovery,] I get that, and I don’t deny that some of these hotspots states are going to moderate that recovery, but on the whole the picture is very positive. And I still think the V-shaped recovery is in place.

"That denial means he's someone in power, and that V-shaped means he's in a purely economic position, and that complete ignoring of the human part of the equation means he doesn't have to worry about re-election. So...Kudlow?"

Correct.

Team Trump is desperately trying to push "things are actually good right now" angle, because if they had to argue the facts or evidence, they'd be crushed instantly. Simply put, there is no evidence of a V-shaped recovery. That's somewhere on the spectrum of propaganda to wishful thinking.

[rayvio]

there's a different V shape to respond to their crap with... feel free to borrow it America

[Justank]

So in the interview one week ago, Trump said a healthcare plan would be coming "within two weeks". I couldn't find any actual details about it yet, and while I fully believe it was just some complete bullshit he spouted off like usual I did try looking. There's still a week left so could totally happen.

Coincidentally while I was looking, I did stumble across this article from June talking about a healthcare plan being rolled out in the next couple months, which would at least be consistent except that's from June 2019. I tried to find information about that healthcare plan but wasn't able to turn anything up except more promises of soon and a bunch of articles talking about what to expect based on an HHS document from 2018.

The point of this for me is to start accumulating some trending items as we move towards the election, as some Trump supporters I know have started to crack this year and hard examples of his bullshit will be useful for pushing them over the edge. I'm not the brightest crayon in the shed, so if anyone has information from the end of last year about this admin actually putting any health care plans in place, please let me know.

[Zan15]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...7#post52517457



The various school districts' insurance carriers are anticipating that already and jacking their premium up. Or they may just drop the smaller school districts entirely.

Ya they already said their budget is blown for the year to expect the largest increase next budget ever in the history of the school if they are expected to re-open. that is until they figure out a way to furlough the teachers and staff with the union contract in place.


they spent over $35,000 just updating the reception offices of the 3 schools to be "safer".
they apparently spent multiples of that for the nurses office and supplies so far.

the scariest part is the nurse at the high school queried the union president if she is allowed to purchase a hazmat suit on budget, not to deal with sick kids but to deal with sick teachers and staff.

its scary as hell.

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So in the interview one week ago, Trump said a healthcare plan would be coming "within two weeks". I couldn't find any actual details about it yet, and while I fully believe it was just some complete bullshit he spouted off like usual I did try looking. There's still a week left so could totally happen.

Coincidentally while I was looking, I did stumble across this article from June talking about a healthcare plan being rolled out in the next couple months, which would at least be consistent except that's from June 2019. I tried to find information about that healthcare plan but wasn't able to turn anything up except more promises of soon and a bunch of articles talking about what to expect based on an HHS document from 2018.

The point of this for me is to start accumulating some trending items as we move towards the election, as some Trump supporters I know have started to crack this year and hard examples of his bullshit will be useful for pushing them over the edge. I'm not the brightest crayon in the shed, so if anyone has information from the end of last year about this admin actually putting any health care plans in place, please let me know.

His plan is to abolish the ACA and cut healthcare for 20 million people. two supreme court challenges to do it supported by the trump administration.

its a Bigly plan.

it will be as good as the plan he rolled out in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019....oh wait....never mind.

[eschatological]

Fuck Florida and particularly DeSantis.

Remember that Florida had the chance to elect Andrew Gilliam just 2 years ago. But apparently the Dems and Republicans are too similar so who the fuck cares who wins an election, amirite?

[Omega10]

Remember that Florida had the chance to elect Andrew Gilliam just 2 years ago. But apparently the Dems and Republicans are too similar so who the fuck cares who wins an election, amirite?

People fought hard for Gilliam. We lost And Florida is paying a HUGE price.

The question is: what will the US do as a country in November???

New polls with good and bad news:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-days-...120145265.html

Title: AP-NORC poll: US course at record low, Trump sinks on virus

The good news is:

A new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research also finds Trump’s approval for his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic falling to a new low, with just 32% of Americans supportive of his approach. Even Trump’s standing on the economy, long the high water mark for the president, has fallen over the past few months after seeming ascendant earlier this year.

So for his handling of the virus, his base is starting to wither away. Definitely good news.

The bad news is:

Overall, 38% of Americans approve of the president’s job performance — well within the narrow range that Trump’s approval ratings have stayed throughout this presidency, but down slightly from earlier this year before the pandemic. Most Republicans — 81% — approve of Trump’s job performance, but just 68% of Republicans support his handling of the pandemic.

His base is still holding overall. I would definitely NOT rule out the chances of Trump getting reelected.

[Breccia]

So in the interview one week ago, Trump said a healthcare plan would be coming "within two weeks".

Hey remember when Trump said he wanted better health coverage for more people for less money? Or, more relevant tot he current situation, this?

So I want to make sure that nobody's dying on the streets when I'm president. Nobody's going to be dying on the streets. We will unleash something that's going to be terrific.

How's it going, death panels?

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Throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at a baseball game is a presidential tradition dating back to President Taft and since then every sitting president has thrown out a first pitch, except for Trump.

He claims he will next month.

Someone's jealous.

UPDATE: Trump backs out. Suddenly remembers he's busy Aug 15.

Now, we all know Trump lies all the time about everything. What was the real reason? No crowd to cheer? Suddenly rememebered he's as popular in NYC as...um...Trump in NYC? Being shamed about golfing? Not being able to throw? Place your bets!

[Benggaul]

I am becoming more and more willing to give Trump's goons the fight they think they want...

https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/sta...120904704?s=20

[Gorsameth]

Hey remember when Trump said he wanted better health coverage for more people for less money? Or, more relevant tot he current situation, this?



How's it going, death panels?

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UPDATE: Trump backs out. Suddenly remembers he's busy Aug 15.

Now, we all know Trump lies all the time about everything. What was the real reason? No crowd to cheer? Suddenly rememebered he's as popular in NYC as...um...Trump in NYC? Being shamed about golfing? Not being able to throw? Place your bets!

I'm gonna go with not being able to throw.
Probably the same reason he hasn't done it in previous years.