Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kathranis]

His supporters aren’t turning on him in the least though.

No, but in their efforts to support him they are only dragging him down. Granted, they follow his example so he's just as guilty. It's like a self-destructive feedback loop.

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https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/...652322310?s=20

Haha, yikes.

Well, throwing a pity party on the same day as the DC equivalent of Homecoming is pretty self-defeating. Given the opportunity to attend either a who's who gala of the political elite or to watch Trump waddle on to a plane and jet off to Florida, I can't imagine anyone in the press or government choosing the latter unless they're the most loyal of Trump loyalists.

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1XV

Guys...I have a sincere question based off this article covering the rift between Trumpublicans and Republicans...

If Trump causes the GOP to split in half and functionally pushes them out of most seats of power as a result, especially nationally...will America be Great Again?

[Zaktar]

They literally invaded the Capitol on his say so...

Yes, and since that is the issue which, as time goes on, more and more of them will want to distance themselves from, my use of the word poised seems appropriate. I could be wrong, let's check back in 6 months and see where he's at.

[Edge-]

Well, throwing a pity party on the same day as the DC equivalent of Homecoming is pretty self-defeating. Given the opportunity to attend either a who's who gala of the political elite or to watch Trump waddle on to a plane and jet off to Florida, I can't imagine anyone in the press or government choosing the latter unless they're the most loyal of Trump loyalists.

I can, the types that think the "who's who of the political elite" are all "THESWAMP", and media who drew the short straw and have to cover that instead of the inauguration.

For Pence specifically, based on other reporting, I guess he still think he has a political future. I'm genuinely not sure why, though. He's permanently attached to Trump at the hip, but Trump's base absolutely hates his guts with a passion. He would be a good establishment-party suit, but his proximity to Trump and the things he had to do for Trump taint him there even as much as other establishment types would probably like to give him hug if they're a dude (no-homo, though, Mother wouldn't be pleased).

I'm shocked that Pence thinks he has any kind of political future. The only way he does is if establishment Republicans pretend the last 4 years didn't happen...which I doubt they'll ever be allowed to forget.

[Bodakane]

Except that Trump was not responsible for how the states reacted. Or the cities. Or individual citizens. The President has a significant amount of power, but he does not have a monopoly on it.

I mean that's complete and utter bullshit.

He is the one that put it on the states to deal with.

[gondrin]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1XV

Guys...I have a sincere question based off this article covering the rift between Trumpublicans and Republicans...

If Trump causes the GOP to split in half and functionally pushes them out of most seats of power as a result, especially nationally...will America be Great Again?

Well, if that happens, I will say Trump was true to his wo....wo.....hmm....nevermind. I cannot finish that sentence as it is a virtual impossibility for it to happen.

[Edge-]

Except that Trump was not responsible for how the states reacted. Or the cities.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/calif...ing-a-pandemic

Yeah, thank fuckin goodness for some cities like SF.

Though he has considerable powers to both order and pressure states to take action in adherence with federal guidelines.

The President has a significant amount of power, but he does not have a monopoly on it.

Nobody is pretending he can issue a presidential decree requiring everyone wear a mask under penalty of a felony or anything of the sort. But there are considerable emergency powers he could have used strategically to both help reduce the spread while focusing on the production of actually necessary shit like PPE rather than using the DPA to first protect meat packers from legal liability.

Him saying, "Well, states, do whatever." isn't leadership. The core role of the federal government in a national pandemic like this is to be a clearinghouse of centralized information and a centralized point of logistics, as the federal government has far more access to production and delivery logistics than individual states does. That's him being too lazy to do his job and wanting to spend time golfing and watching TV while Americans die.

[Milchshake]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1XV

Guys...I have a sincere question based off this article covering the rift between Trumpublicans and Republicans...

If Trump causes the GOP to split in half and functionally pushes them out of most seats of power as a result, especially nationally...will America be Great Again?

Nope. This happens every cycle the GOPs happens to lose. I even remember falling for it 2008.

Political Amnesia is just too strong in the US.
Pundits are heavily invested in propping up the idea the "GOP is a functioning political party". Because to them, politics is sportsball and needs two teams.
A recent study recently came out showing that conservative voters just dont care about in-party hypocrisy. Explains why poor whites in Kentucky keep voting McConnell in.

[Demolitia]

So our old friend Sean Spicer, who now works for Newsmax applied to join White House press corps ...

[Noxx79]

Ok, then who would have been able to prevent Covid-19 from killing anyone in the US?

It would have killed people, just not 400,000 and rising. First step was to admit it was real.

[Edge-]

So our old friend Sean Spicer, who now works for Newsmax applied to join White House press corps ...

Not gonna lie.

I want him to get it. Just to watch the next press secretary mock and humiliate him constantly.

[gondrin]

So our old friend Sean Spicer, who now works for Newsmax applied to join White House press corps ...

Honestly, I would let him in but never allow him to ask anything. Tell him that if he wants to ask a question that he has to win Dancing with the Star but have Donald Trump as his partner then.

[Demolitia]

Not gonna lie.

I want him to get it. Just to watch the next press secretary mock and humiliate him constantly.

And set up a special naughty chair just for him in a corner somewhere

[Breccia]

So our old friend Sean Spicer, who now works for Newsmax applied to join White House press corps ...

I'm with @Edge- on this one. Let him in, then answer not the questions he asked, but correct his lies from his stint in the role.

"Could you explain Biden's plan to stop illegal immigration?"
"Absolutely. See, when Trump said there was 42% unemployment, he--"
"Whoa, that's not what I asked."
"No, it's what was asked, and I'm answering. Trump included newborns and students--"

[Demolitia]

I'm with @Edge- on this one. Let him in, then answer not the questions he asked, but correct his lies from his stint in the role.

"Could you explain Biden's plan to stop illegal immigration?"
"Absolutely. See, when Trump said there was 42% unemployment, he--"
"Whoa, that's not what I asked."
"No, it's what was asked, and I'm answering. Trump included newborns and students--"

Or let Jim Acosta sit behind him and allow him to flick Spicer's ear and shush him whenever he tries to open his mouth.

[Edge-]

I'm with @Edge- on this one. Let him in, then answer not the questions he asked, but correct his lies from his stint in the role.

"I have a question ab.."
"BIGGEST INAUGURATION AUDIENCE OF ALL TIME, PERIOD"
"What? It's April, what does that ha..."
"Sean, do I need to play your ABC's for you again?"
"My wha..."



*Plays on the TV's set up behind the podium that the Trump administration loved to use while the press secretary looks busy taking notes or something, but it actually just drawing a dope-ass unicorn*

[Demolitia]

"I have a question ab.."
"BIGGEST INAUGURATION AUDIENCE OF ALL TIME, PERIOD"
"What? It's April, what does that ha..."
"Sean, do I need to play your ABC's for you again?"
"My wha..."



*Plays on the TV's set up behind the podium that the Trump administration loved to use while the press secretary looks busy taking notes or something, but it actually just drawing a dope-ass unicorn*

Now it feels petty to give Trump shit for covfefe.

[Edge-]

Now it feels petty to give Trump shit for covfefe.

Oh it totally doesn't. Because he left it there, and then had his administration pretend it was an intentional thing. I mean, Sean Spicer himself went out to defend it.

[Milchshake]

I cant get a read on this photo.



Either someone just got a pardon, or they took their last bump in the Whitehouse bathroom.

[Belize]

Not gonna lie.

I want him to get it. Just to watch the next press secretary mock and humiliate him constantly.

Implying that's not what he want in the first place.