Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

I guess they're embarrassed to be identified as Nazi's.

Or, alternative take, they're embarrassed to be identified as Trump supporters.

[Edge-]

Man, why do I feel like we're not gonna get any answers about when Trump was indicted before this : (

[Taifuu]

And neither does the Manhattan DA.

Please enlighten us, in your words, on what you think a grand jury actually is and does. Because you're posting in good faith, right? You're looking for a discussion and not just schilling for people who equate Trump with Jesus?

https://news.yahoo.com/marjorie-tayl...Y_ZMWOY4WVfj26

In an interview with the Right Side Broadcasting Network's Brian Glenn on her way to a pro-Trump rally in downtown Manhattan, Greene said that Trump "is joining some of the most incredible people in history being arrested today."

"Nelson Mandela was arrested, served time in prison," she added. "Jesus was arrested and murdered by the Roman government. There have been many people throughout history that have been arrested and persecuted by radical, corrupt governments, and it's beginning today in New York City, and I just can't believe it's happening, but I'll always support him. He's done nothing wrong."

[s_bushido]

The truly terrifying part is that if the charges don't stick he's 100% going to get elected again.

People said the same crap about 2020 and his impeachments. How'd that work out for him?

[Edge-]

People said the same crap about 2020 and his impeachments. How'd that work out for him?

To a point sure.

But then after Jan. 6 he was done and there was no way he was going to continue to have so much influence within the broader Republican party outside of his base and everyone was backing away into the bushes like Homer Simpson. If you went to /r/conservative for example there was nary a "MAGA" tag in sight as everyone was falling over themselves to rewrite the past 5 years of their history with many being called out on it. Now? Largely indistinguishable from the MAGA days.

We've seen how long that's lasted. We're a fickle country with serious short-term memory issues.

[Shadowferal]

[gondrin]

Maybe Hillary can send him some soap on a rope when he gets to prison. Or maybe his supporters can put some money on his account so he can make calls and get some diet coke. buhahahahahaha

real talk tho, all the crazy insane shit he has got away with over the last 50-60 years and a couple of hookers/pornstars gonna finally get him caught. buhahahaha

Well, he will be Al Capone part 2 without the mafia part of it. You also have Ted Bundy who killed over 30 people but wasn't caught until he got caught speeding. It is kind of a thing where big time criminals don't get caught on their main crimes but some small time crime that ends up giving evidence of them doing something far worse.

[Karreck]

The truly terrifying part is that if the charges don't stick he's 100% going to get elected again.

No. At best, he will win the Republican nomination, but he will die in a general election. Remember, Trump has never won the popular vote. Look at how Trump backed candidates for House and Senate performed in the '22 midterms. He's 8 for 9 in Republican leaning areas, 1 for 7 in toss up races, and 0 for 4 in Democrat leaning areas. Trump will get wrecked (again) in a general election, even against Re-elect Me Biden, who is currently polling with a higher approval rating than Trump right now by the way. And that's not even including data that shows the majority of Americans want him to go to trail and think he is guilty of some kind of crimes.
This whole "Trump is a shoe in for '24" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

[gondrin]

1) They'd have to prove intimidation. Just posting someones picture isn't evidence of that exactly. And as everything ive responded to on the last few pages it's hearsay. Unless you're directly tagging a person and threatening them, then it's not a crime. Unless the photo is evidence of a crime.

2) appeals to and from religion don't matter to anyone. There's no such thing as a good Christian, especially when you have thousands of different flavors all with various amounts of zealotry.

The problem is if it were just a picture put on a T-shirt, nobody would care. However, since it can be quickly assumed that it was because of the charges brought against Trump and they weren't planning on doing it regardless, it should be easily to state that they were doing it to intimidate the judge that is dealing with the case.

Example: Posting a picture of Pelosi, fine. Posting a picture of Pelosi with a target on her head stating she should be removed, not fine and should be treated as a threat.

[Karreck]

Also, Happy Indictment Day for all those who celebrate.

[Twdft]

Wow indicted? Again? Wonder if they'll get anything to stick this time.

This time it's an actual indictment with a real trial, not just his buddies in the senate looking the other way.

[Edge-]

This time it's an actual indictment with a real trial, not just his buddies in the senate looking the other way.

That wasn't an indictment. That was an impeachment (well, a pair of them actually), which is a purely political process and has nothing to do with criminal law.

[postman1782]

The truly terrifying part is that if the charges don't stick he's 100% going to get elected again.

No he won't. GenZ completely canceled out the boomer vote in 2022, and only more are going to be able to vote in 2024.

Plus they have Trump ON TAPE, committing the crime he is being accused of.

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Democrats don't understand the Streisand effect.

I can basically guarantee he won't be elected or get off these charges.

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And neither does the Manhattan DA.

Yes he does. He has multiple witnesses, AND a fucking recording of Trump committing the crimes.

[Corvus]

I know the chances of him actually getting jail time are not high, and even if he did, it would be the cushiest jail sentence sine Hitler, but can you imagine a sociopathic narcissist like Trump actually surviving jail? They'd probably have to stick him on suicide watch so he doesn't go down the route of his old friend Epstein.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/3932133...erage-hearing/

Merchan set the next court date for Dec. 4.

As mentioned, gonna be a while.

[Breccia]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

[postman1782]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

The only reason it wasn't brought sooner was that Barr stopped it. Which should be obstruction of justice charges against him.

[s_bushido]

everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US

He's just confused. They weren't laughing at us, they were laughing at him.

[Breccia]

The only reason it wasn't brought sooner was that Barr stopped it. Which should be obstruction of justice charges against him.

We might be talking about different cases. Barr wasn't involved in New York.

[postman1782]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

I hope he continues, and they revoke bail.

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We might be talking about different cases. Barr wasn't involved in New York.

With Vance he was before Bragg took over.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/...67796356943873

I am just going by what Cy Vance said, is that the SDNY district told him to stand down, who was being ordered to say it by Barr.

Also, Jeffrey Berman's book said that Barr came in and put a stop to it.