Total bullshit rhetoric. Mind providing some examples?
I can provide counter-example: Scandinavian countries occupy the first places on the HDI, Gini, Freedom Press Index, general perception of freedom, high rated in corruption perception index and they have high GDP per capita.
On the other hand, China is rated 176/180 in press freedom, next to Syria, Sudan and fucking North Korea.
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Katie N reminds me of all the best Hydra-centered Marvel comics. lol
Also, look what happens to people that think outside of party imposed lines in Vn:
http://www.dpa-international.com/top...0405-99-770196
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The interests of the broad masses? What a fucking joke. Those are hte masses you're oppressing, Ping. You don't give a rats ass about them, because if you did you'd let them express themselves.
No, they fear the people and thus they feel the need to severely control the people.
China should stay the fuck away from the worlds internet.
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https://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/phap-l...n-3732992.html
You don't need an army behind you to talk about overthrowing.
You're linking me an article sponsored by state propaganda...
It doesn't really matter to me if you do or you don't, what matters to me is that apparently all is fine and good in the US ... things are just a problem in China. Oppression is such a handily flexible phrase that way.Originally Posted by Machismo
It's quite subjective. You are taking a set of values as you see them and using them as a filter to justify how you want another culture to react. Slogans are great, but at the end of things reality needs to be faced. That reality is that there are 1.3 to 1.6 billion people who need to be fed, housed and employed. Among the oppressive measures of the Chinese government, those bastards are trying to get toilets for everyone! http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/201..._136783293.htmOriginally Posted by Machismo
Regime change has had consequences in the Middle East. We can look back to the Taiping Rebellion and see how that fueled a rush of Chinese overseas. It remains to be seen if the current initiative to move China to a socialist model will work. There will undoubtedly be stumbles given the size of China's population, regional differences, and other factors. Recall, however, that China is barely more than 100 years out of feudalism and the emergence of regional warlords was a problem for quite a while after the last dynasty was replaced. Even today, groups like Eastern Lightning are trying to build cults of personality that represent a worse direction things could go.
With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.
Who is saying everything is fine and good in the United States? Do you enjoy building Godzilla-sized straw men?
I'm going to go ahead and stick with freedom on this one, thanks.
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Thanks for making my case for me, enjoy that oppression.
The only real question is how much oppression you want to tolerate in order to have that stability. Are you in favor of genocide? I would hope not. So, your sweet spot is somewhere in between denial of freedom of speech and expression, and murder. I'll let you try and point to exactly how much oppression you are willing to tolerate.
On that note, Tiananmen Square actually happened.
I'm going to go ahead and stick with freedom on this one, thanks.
I fixed your typo.Originally Posted by Machismo
Handy how much of the language you quoted flew over your head for this one.Originally Posted by Machismo
If people studiously ignore problems in other places because "ZOMG CHINA" it isn't necessary to say everything is fine and good in the US because it is being treated as a given that they are. In particular, this thread starts with an article quoting Xi as saying: “We cannot let the internet become a platform for disseminating harmful information and stirring up trouble with rumors,” To address that as a perceived ill, while ignoring the extent to which similar issues are boiling away in the US (thread was started by a US poster) is pretty biased. We have a president actively calling things he doesn't like fake news, specifically taking aim at the media at rallies, restricting media access and what do we get in this thread? We get posts that seem to ignore all of those things because they're apparently only a problem if a Chinese guy says them.
With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.
Who says I'm ignoring shit? You keep trying to make inferences that I'm ignoring other problems, but I'm not. If you wish to discuss those problems, then bring it into those other threads. This is about China, if you want to talk about Trump... then you will easily find me on those threads.
China has a government that is actively trying to silence free speech, and remove freedom of thought. Hell, most people in China are not even allowed to learn about Tiananmen Square.
Tiananmen Square happened, are you willing to admit that?