Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[beanman12345]

Didn't scotus rule a few years back it's illegal to be a faithlesss elector?

[Xeones]

Down to 196K in PA.

I'm counting 175k on google.

[Jtbrig7390]

Trump has a 0.8% lead in Georgia.

So in other words Trump is about to loose Georgia. If Biden gets AZ and Georgia that's a rap.

[Felya]

Down to 196K in PA.

It’s already less than that, but Trump is gaining as well... will the difference be enough? Oh god...

[Zaydin]

Betting odds that Biden wins, but faithless electors give Trump the narrow stolen victory?

The Supreme Court ruled that faithless electors can't do that.

[PhaelixWW]

Atlanta. Urban area in a state with relatively little rural area population (compared to TX and FL, the only other states in the south with urban areas rivaling ATL).

I sincerely hope that Georgia going more blue is a sign of increased African American voter participation, as the Atlanta metro area has a very large African American population. I hope that young black men/women will all feel more enfranchised by this shift and continue that increased participation. That would only be a good thing for this nation.

[kaelleria]

I think it’ll be closer to 100k, but I wouldn’t be upset if Biden over performed.

He's been overperforming like crazy in all the EV getting counted today.

[nonameelf]

Didn't scotus rule a few years back it's illegal to be a faithlesss elector?

They ruled that electors have to follow state laws, but not every state has a law in regards to faithless electors.

So, like everything else it's a clusterfuck you have to look at on a state by state basis.

[PACOX]

Is there a reason why Georgia is close to going blue while the rest of the South is solidly red? Not an American so I don't know the make up of the states - does Georgia have a higher number of African-Americans compared to the rest of the South?

Atlanta is a very large city, one of the largest in South. Also one of the largest black populations among major metro cities in the US, well above the national average.

[luc54]

Trump has a 0.8% lead in Georgia.

So in other words Trump is about to loose Georgia. If Biden gets AZ and Georgia that's a rap.

GA is almost done. Biden would need about 70% of rest of votes to win GA. I would say Trump wins GA.

[Kaleredar]

Many states already elect their AG, why would a federal election be a big stretch?

Getting people across all states to care about a singular AG would be, I'd think.

A lot of those down-ballot positions aside from senators, governors and representatives are pretty nebulous in the minds of most voters.

And like I said, I don't think it'd functionally much different from just having the president appoint their own AG, seeing as... parties would sponsor their own candidates for AG anyway. I'd assume whoever won the presidency would also have that AG voted in as well.

[Xeones]

Uh... PA is creeping really quick right now I really want them to get the data we need tonight.

[Felya]

Trump has a 0.8% lead in Georgia.

So in other words Trump is about to loose Georgia. If Biden gets AZ and Georgia that's a rap.

I don’t think there are enough votes.

[Breccia]

See, this is exactly what I was talking about. Well, the nonviolent half.

Trump campaign files lawsuit to stop vote counting in Georgia

The evidence? Someone on Team Trump says someone else slipped in 53 illegally late ballots.

Look, any vote cast illegally is a crime, but...53? And "some guy saw it" seems like a pretty weak case for stopping votes from being counted.

Wouldn't the appropriate move be to demand a recount after losing? Trump's supporters will gleefully pay for it. That way, he gets two chances. The honest one, and if that fails, a second shot. I mean, if he wins Georgia despite what he claims to be voter fraud without evidence, will he really care how?

By my count that's WI MI PA AZ and now GA that have had Trump fuckery involved.

[Nastard]

Faithless electors will mean people riot... there is no doubt...

Indeed. There were 7 faithless electors last election, though I think those were probably empty gestures knowing it wouldn't change the outcome. But if this ends up being 270 vs 268? It would take just one to tie and two to give Trump the victory. I've seen crazier things happen. Y'know, like Trump getting elected in the first place.

[Jtbrig7390]

I don’t think there are enough votes.

GA is almost done. Biden would need about 70% of rest of votes to win GA. I would say Trump wins GA.

Trump is 39k above Biden and there is 122K videos not shown yet.

There is a solid chance Biden takes it.

[kaelleria]

Trump is 39k above Biden and there is 122K videos not shown yet.

There is a solid chance Biden takes it.

They still have 125k ballots to count in Fulton alone.

[PACOX]

Didn't scotus rule a few years back it's illegal to be a faithlesss elector?

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/88516...constitutional

States are free to punish faithless electors, which would be the ones in red where they have laws against faithless electors.



Also, faithless electors happen all but typically in a ceremonial fashion. Actually changing the outcome of an election would be very bad news with the chances of that ever happening being close to 0.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

What will Kamala Harris' title be and what will Doug's title be? Second man? Second lord?

[DarkTZeratul]

Indeed. There were 7 faithless electors last election, though I think those were probably empty gestures knowing it wouldn't change the outcome. But if this ends up being 270 vs 268? It would take just one to tie and two to give Trump the victory. I've seen crazier things happen. Y'know, like Trump getting elected in the first place.

It feels unlikely to me. As you said, the electors who changed their votes last time did so because it was a gesture; they were all pledged for Clinton, who had lost anyway. Remember, the electors are selected by each party; the odds of a Democrat-appointed elector choosing to give the election to Trump seem slim.