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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    He also hired the guy who dumped Eric Trump recently.
    So lawyers are just passed in a loop from Epstein to Trump to Gaetz and back? Man, what a circle of jerks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So lawyers are just passed in a loop from Epstein to Trump to Gaetz and back? Man, what a circle of jerks.
    It's not related but it's like a pun already setup.
    Sorry I have to.

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    Recent reports suggest Gaetz is preparing for a "scorched earth" trial. You know the Trumpian deal: throw every single defense at the wall even if it's contradicted by other defenses; hire lawyers from out of town because, after a dirty trial, they won't have to look everyone else in the eye; and of course, claim that Gaetz paying an underaged child for sex and being ratted out by his co-child-raper is, somehow, a political attack.

    Some of this we already knew, like the Epstein lawyer thing. But the sheer size of what's being planned means not only is Gaetz not going to plead out or anything, but he's probably facing some very serious charges. He's burning CDs like the boss enrages in 30 seconds, and he's standing in the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollycakes View Post
    It's not related but it's like a pun already setup.
    It wasn't just "set up". I 100% guarantee you that the pun was delivered, and intentional.

    @Breccia's all about that understated wit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Breccia's all about that understated wit.
    I mean, it's a mixture with "I fucked Graham's wife last night". I mix and match. I'm a people pleaser. Just ask Graham's wife.

    On topic: in the ongoing effort to stay under the radar, Gaetz signed onto the MORE Act, which is intended to legalize pot. Because the best defense against accusations you handed out drugs, is publicly signing a bill about drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    This is generally thought to be bad for Gaetz.
    We knew about the guilty plea and likely ratting out.

    We knew about Gaetz hiring out-of-town scumbag lawyers to run a "scorched earth" defense.

    We knew Gaetz's family claimed they were being extorted by Biden when it was a real estate agent.

    All of ths, then the date moved back.

    I'm no expert, but if I had to guess anyhow, I seem to remember something about people's sentences only being reduced if their testimony leads to a conviction. But that would be the prosecution making the motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I kinda want him on trial during election season though. Big, messy, public.
    He might be, if he doesn't plead out.

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    Damnit, I was hoping for an updated Gaetz mugshot and celebrate Christmas early back in July, now I might not get that present till next year? fuck!

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    Multiple sources report that Greene/Gaetz's PAC is basically broke.

    Despite a strong start to the year that raised $360,000 in January and February alone, Put America First PAC’s most recent FEC filings reveal that not much is left in the coffers. The PAC spent $159,000 between July 1st and September 30th, but only raised $57,000 in the same period. During that time, the two representatives embarked on a fundraising tour that lost money and had a number of events canceled.
    Apparently yelling RIGGED RIGGED has a shelf-life. They'll have to find something else to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Multiple sources report that Greene/Gaetz's PAC is basically broke.



    Apparently yelling RIGGED RIGGED has a shelf-life. They'll have to find something else to work with.
    You gotta hand it to Gaetz. He finally achieved his dream. He was 38 when he found his high school sweetheart.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    You gotta hand it to Gaetz. He finally achieved his dream. He was 38 when he found his high school sweetheart.
    lol true story.
    Here's a pic from their first date.

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    I wonder if Gaetz feels that noose tightening yet.

    Politico: ‘Prolific criminal’: Gaetz’s old wingman gets more time to help prosecutors
    A corrupt former Florida tax official and one-time “wingman” to Rep. Matt Gaetz won extra time Monday to cooperate with federal prosecutors in their investigation of the congressman and a host of other scandals.

    Joel Greenberg was set to be sentenced on Nov. 18 for six crimes he pleaded guilty to earlier this year, but prosecutors successfully implored U.S. District Judge Gregory Presnell to wait until March so they can track down all of the leads Greenberg has given to investigators.

    Mr. Greenberg was a prolific criminal,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Roger Handberg said in open court.

    “Mr. Greenberg was not alone. This is an unusual situation in the number of different investigations and lines of investigation we are pursuing,” Handberg said, adding that the extra time was required “because of the need to follow up on some of these leads.”

    The biggest prize for federal prosecutors is Gaetz, who was not mentioned in court Monday and is under investigation on suspicion he paid to have sex with a 17-year-old girl to whom Greenberg had introduced him in 2017.

    The investigation into Gaetz has stretched on since November and became public this spring amid predictions of an imminent indictment for the congressman that never came to pass. The March sentencing date for Greenberg — the former Seminole County tax collector — sets a new time horizon for when Gaetz might be charged, if at all.

    Indictments of sitting congressmen are usually approved by the attorney general, and the Justice Department often tries to avoid pressing criminal charges in the heat of an election. The Florida primaries are Aug. 23; Gaetz has two Republican opponents. A Gaetz spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

    Greenberg has pleaded guilty to sex-trafficking the 17-year-old teen, who is now an adult. Gaetz has denied all charges and has repeatedly pointed out that Greenberg is guilty of that crime and also admitted to falsely smearing a political rival as a pedophile.

    Sex-trafficking a minor isn’t the only potential charge Gaetz faces.

    Prosecutors have been looking at a 2018 Bahamas trip Gaetz was on to see if the congressman and two political allies violated the Mann Act, which forbids taking people across state lines to engage in prostitution. Greenberg wasn’t on that trip, but the victim of his sex trafficking was, though at that point she had turned 18. Gaetz previously said he never paid for sex.

    Gaetz is also being investigated over whether he obstructed justice when he called an ex-girlfriend and another potential witness in the case and discussed it with them. Gaetz, a lawyer, has denied obstructing justice. The ex-girlfriend is seeking an immunity deal from prosecutors in return for her testimony. POLITICO is not naming her or the other women in the case to respect their privacy.

    Gaetz isn’t the only suspect in the blast radius of Greenberg’s crimes and his attempt to get a lesser sentence in exchange for his cooperation. He faces a mandatory-minimum sentence of 12 years for six separate crimes he pleaded guilty to: sex trafficking a minor, stalking a political rival, identity theft, defrauding local taxpayers in a cryptocurrency scheme and bribing a Small Business Administration employee to illegally receive federal Covid-relief money. Prosecutors on Monday hinted that Greenberg’s case has ensnared multiple people and led to several lines of investigation.

    One of the co-conspirators in that Covid-relief scheme, a one-time mortgage broker named Nabil Dajani, is expected to be charged as a result of the crime, three people familiar with the matter told POLITICO. Dajani declined to comment in detail when contacted Monday.

    A longtime friend of Greenberg’s named Joe Ellicott is under investigation on suspicion of sex-trafficking the 17-year-old in 2017, according to previous reporting. He has refused comment. According to other reporting, former friend of Greenberg’s, Chris Dorworth, was interviewed by federal prosecutors about whether he was involved in a scheme to recruit a so-called “ghost candidate” in a state senate race, which he denied.

    Two other men tied to Gaetz, former Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation Secretary Halsey Beshears and former Orlando Aviation Authority member Jason Pirozzolo, are facing investigations connected to their travel to the Bahamas with Gaetz, as POLITICO previously reported.

    In court on Monday, Greenberg lawyer Fritz Scheller said Greenberg needed more time to help prosecutors and is “on a path of rehabilitation and, to a lesser extent, redemption.” He also said Greenberg’s information is “a way to mitigate the severity of Mr. Greenberg’s case… make amends.”

    The judge replied by noting that Greenberg was getting something out of his testimony: “Well, it’s a way to mitigate his sentence.”

    Presnell, noting that much of the investigation needs to be confidential, said he still needed a sense for “why we need a year to sentence someone,” considering the fact that Greenberg pleaded guilty in May. He said he’ll sentence Greenberg at sometime in March, and “this is now a deadline that we’re going to have to meet.”

    The prosecutor, Handberg, indicated the information Greenberg has been given has been helpful and sometimes “unexpected.” But it takes time.

    “The investigators in this case have followed the evidence where it takes them,” Handberg said. “This is obviously not a normal situation.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Yep, every time they extend this, it gets worse for Gaetz. Only because Greenberg wants as little time as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Yep, every time they extend this, it gets worse for Gaetz. Only because Greenberg wants as little time as possible.
    If Gaetz is ultimately going to be nabbed by authorities, the closer to next year's election the better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    If Gaetz is ultimately going to be nabbed by authorities, the closer to next year's election the better.
    Yeah, if this drags out until after the election, then DeathSantis can just appoint a new congressman, right? Would be better for this to drop right before election so maybe we can get a dem in that seat.

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    Yeah, if this drags out until after the election, then DeathSantis can just appoint a new congressman, right? Would be better for this to drop right before election so maybe we can get a dem in that seat.
    It wouldn't be surprising, being where he is at, he would still get elected, even in prison.

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1942370.html

    So...uh...Gaetz thinks there's a hitman out to get him? And that the best idea is to talk about this on the House floor?

    The Florida lawmaker said that he had received a threat on Twitter from a professional hitman who he said had traveled to Washington DC to attack him.
    Do hitmen have public Twitter handles as a thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1942370.html

    So...uh...Gaetz thinks there's a hitman out to get him? And that the best idea is to talk about this on the House floor?

    Do hitmen have public Twitter handles as a thing?
    I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of a professional hitman warning his target on Twitter...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do hitmen have public Twitter handles as a thing?
    No.

    Threats of death and violence are not cool -- in fact, they're illegal. Gaetz is claiming that the Department of Justice is refusing to act.

    "Did he show us the tweet?"

    No.

    "Does he have proof the DoJ isn't moving on this?"

    No.

    "Was there any record of the attack or suspected attack?"

    No.

    "Why does this sound so familiar?"

    Because Gaetz has made this claim before.

    Gaetz, you pathetic piece of shit. Do you know that I could blow your fucking head clean off your shoulders from over a mile away. Watch your back, bitch. You pathetic little piece of shit. You got your head so far up Trump’s ass, I could still take it off your shoulders. Fuck you Gaetz. I’m coming after you, bitch
    -- a call recorded in 2019

    "Surely such a clear threat on his life means that, when people made death threats against election officials in red states, he personally and specifically decried them?"

    No.

    "Surely such a clear threat on his life meant that, when there was a murderous insurrection, he said these people were criminals?"

    He personally tried to spring them from prison. So no.

    "So he's lying and/or a hypocrite."

    Yes.

    "Who would have the means and motive to hire a hit man to kill Gaetz?"

    Probably some underaged girl's parents and/or pimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of a professional hitman warning his target on Twitter...
    Maybe he's one of those "The Most Dangerous Game" type people that's found a way to turn his love of hunting humans for sport into a career.

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