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[rhandric]

Aren't the sunglasses town clothes anyway? Seems to me that you won't be running into a lot of them out in the world.

Well, technically town clothing can be used at any time you're not in combat...but more or less you're right

[DrakeWurrum]

Oh please I hope they will never ever ever ever add a LFG tool. That ruined sooo much in WoW. I'm not done trying to build groups, I actually hope we will have to do it that way, look for more members in chat. Stop being lazy for gods sake.

Please tell me what manually building your group from a literal server-wide list of people flagged LFG in the LFG window does that to prevent any of the supposed problems that an automated process would cause?
Yes, if you didn't know, in the friends window, there is a sub-window for players on the server who are marked as LFG.

There's no tanks, no healers, people can't fight over loot because they all get their own loot, you can guest to other servers ANY time you want for free, and an automated tool could easily look at your ignore list to decide who to NOT add.

It's not about laziness, it's about time-saving convenience. There is absolutely no benefit to manually forming the group with this server-wide list. And hell, if there wasn't a server-wide list, you know what would happen?
People would sit in ONE city out of the entire world, spamming the map chat with "LFG FOR THESE DUNGEONS, SEXY NECROMANCER" all the time. Believe it or not, advertising yourself for groups does NOT build community or create for meaningful conversation.

[Fencers]

I wonder how many people opposed to LFG in GW2 realize there has been LFG in GW1 and 2 already.

Not sure what the opposition is, tbh. Nothing in a well designed game can be a "pain in the ass", so to speak. I doubt many developers would intend as such provided it doesn't break another system.

Thinking people mean the automated, cross realm WoW LFD. That clearly isn't appropriate for GW2. So why would you even be concerned over a feature from another game under the assumption that feature would work exactly as in some other game?

Makes no sense.

[DrakeWurrum]

I wonder how many people opposed to LFG in GW2 realize there has been LFG in GW1 and 2 already.

Not sure what the opposition is, tbh. Nothing in a well designed game can be a "pain in the ass", so to speak. I doubt many developers would intend as such provided it doesn't break another system.

Thinking people mean the automated, cross realm WoW LFD. That clearly isn't appropriate for GW2. So why would you even be concerned over a feature from another game under the assumption that feature would work exactly as in some other game?

Makes no sense.

That's what I've been saying.

My deal with it NOT being server-wide, however, is this: What's to stop a random player from guesting to your server, a player you're not any more likely to ever meet in person than any of the other random people on your server, and marking himself as LFG?
Even more to the point, I'm willing to bet that players with the mindset of "I'm going to act like a total troll in groups, lulz" will be the ones doing this the most.

[Deleted]

Oh please I hope they will never ever ever ever add a LFG tool. That ruined sooo much in WoW. I'm not done trying to build groups, I actually hope we will have to do it that way, look for more members in chat. Stop being lazy for gods sake.

If by ruined you mean made it much easier and convenient to get groups and allowed you to go play the game whilst queuing instead of dying of boredom spamming /2 in org/sw, then yes I suppose so.....

LFG has no bad side effects, seriously I've yet to see any. 99% of my runs are with nice people, yeah you get the occasional twat, but to be honest I've had worse in tradechatspam groups.

LFG removes the elitist "must be overgeared and have achv" crap from group selection, which is lame.

As long as LFG is not incentivised, its a choice to use or not. If you dont like it, dont use it. But I persoanlly would love such a feature, and I'm not alone, RIFT and SWTOR had to put one in due to overwhelming player demand, I fully expect GW2 to follow suit at some point.
marking yourself /lfg in a list never works, its not worked in any MMO I've played where that was the option. And tradechatspam to create groups is just annoying and not "community" at all.

[Fencers]

TOR pre LFG was one of the worst experiences for a player out of a guild looking to gear themselves. Probably the best real world and recent example we can point to for the LFG/D opposition that see classic WOW with rose-tinted glasses.

Not a day went by in fleet chat where [lack of] LFG/D was not mentioned. Part of the "there's nothing to do at endgame!" TOR forum complaints came from the fact finding a competent group across desperate worlds was massively, unequivocally, fucking terrible.

Being an alt based MMO made it worse!

[DrakeWurrum]

LFG removes the elitist "must be overgeared and have achv" crap from group selection, which is lame.

Can't believe I forgot about that. Back in TBC, although we didn't have achievements, you still had to link (well not link, but you know what i mean) your stats to people and prove you'd be a worthwhile addition to the group and wouldn't be a total derp causing wipes.

I can easily see it happening in GW2, where people will only take you to X Explorable Dungeon if you already have the achievement for it, because they want to have the smoothest run possible to finally finish their whatever set, and will only be willing to take you for a specific dungeon path.

[CrunkJuice5]

TOR pre LFG was one of the worst experiences for a player out of a guild looking to gear themselves. Probably the best real world and recent example we can point to for the LFG/D opposition that see classic WOW with rose-tinted glasses.

Not a day went by in fleet chat where [lack of] LFG/D was not mentioned. Part of the "there's nothing to do at endgame!" TOR forum complaints came from the fact finding a competent group across desperate worlds was massively, unequivocally, fucking terrible.

Being an alt based MMO made it worse!

i dont think an alt based mmo made it worse.i think the fact that bioware didnt relize how horrible the wow community is made it worse

nothing will sink an mmo faster then a bad community.and swtor is pretty much the example of that

[JayJay09]

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tinted_Spectacles

Sunglasses exist since the 15th century.. But it'd be odd if Sunglasses like the ones from Hunger Royale make it into the game.. They look as if they are from Chanel or something like that. The ones in the link have the style of industrial glasses. When I was talking about sunglasses I meant those from Hunger Royale. And they do not belong into the game. Neither in the open world, nor in towns. But seperated if they must -_-.

[Durzlla]

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tinted_Spectacles

*asura bro-fists*

[Mif]

Deal with it bookahs

[rhinomatic]

LFD in WoW did in a way kill the sense of server community, but with that came ease of access and convenience. And considering the quality of most WoW server communities, I'd much rather have ease of access and convenience.

I only used the LFD tool in Tera once. It only took that long to realize why the LFD tool in that game was awful. I was a berserker, had a lancer tank. Both classes use the same armor. The tank threatened to not run the dungeon unless I left or was removed because he didn't want to compete over gear with me. Needless to say, after waiting 20 minutes or so, I was in that dungeon for less than a minute.

GW2 is set up to avoid this though by giving everyone their own loot and not making any one person more important to the group than the others. And with guesting, you can actually make friends on another server and play with them once the dungeon is over. So not only would a LFD tool give convenience and ease of access, it might actually foster a global community. Then you get to beat up your new friends in WvW and everyone has a good time.

[Fencers]

Deal with it bookahs

Stole my line....

[garraeth]

This. If you expect to just AFK while waiting for the queue, then this game isn't for you.

I agree with everything DrakeWurrum saying -- go read his posts on the previous pages.

Good on Anet for posting the Q&A - it wasn't for GW2 fans, it was for getting exposure to general gamers, so the "redundant" questions were to be expected.

[Cuchulainn]

Personally, I'd rather compose my own groups using a LFG channel/tool. Where at least I can talk to people before I add them. I don't like queuing with people I've never talked to before. ANet might as well brong back henchmen if they plan on a dungeon finder tool.

[Durzlla]

Stole my line....
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GASP!! You're an Asura too!?!

[Deleted]

Personally, I'd rather compose my own groups using a LFG channel/tool. Where at least I can talk to people before I add them. I don't like queuing with people I've never talked to before. ANet might as well brong back henchmen if they plan on a dungeon finder tool.

And how does an LFG stop you from making your own group? Really I'd love to know what game an LFG prevents you from making groups in /trade or /world or whatever?

YOU may want to make groups, but as a long time MMO player I hardly ran instances before LFG, yes I ran them with guilds and friends, but not all the time and not on demand liek I can with LFG.
Tradechatspam groups are not community, people join, then sit /afk whilst the groupleader fills the rest of the slots, by pissing off the server by spamming a chat channel, and then do the instance exactly like a LFG group did....only difference is that it takes ages to set up. Its a complete myth that LFG destroys communities, like its a myth that cashshops = pay to win or that free to play games are crap...just because it gets spouted on forums by a vocal and uniformed minority does not make it true.

People in LFG are still people, people in tradechatspam groups are still people. 99% of the time they are great and fine to play with, 1% of the time you find a pillock, thats true of any group, LFG or otherwise.
LFG removes elitist barriers to groups, and helps people see the content they are playing for. IF you dont like them, dont use them, I dont see why I should eb forced to do without a feature because of your misguided opinions.

[DrakeWurrum]

Personally, I'd rather compose my own groups using a LFG channel/tool. Where at least I can talk to people before I add them. I don't like queuing with people I've never talked to before. ANet might as well brong back henchmen if they plan on a dungeon finder tool.

Nothing is stopping you from talking to people in a dungeon finder group, you know. O_o

Sure, you won't have talked to them "before" but what makes you think the tool is going to automatically port you to the dungeon? Just because WoW did? Some of you would be in the middle of something you don't want to stop doing immediately, so I'm sure you'd have a chance to say hello before actually setting foot into the dungeon.

---------- Post added 2012-07-27 at 07:27 PM ----------

Tradechatspam groups are not community, people join, then sit /afk whilst the groupleader fills the rest of the slots, by pissing off the server by spamming a chat channel, and then do the instance exactly like a LFG group did....only difference is that it takes ages to set up.

^truth right here

I didn't say very many words back in TBC. Certainly wasn't more chatty back then as now. I said what needed to be said, and nothing more.

[Fencers]

GASP!! You're an Asura too!?!

PM me and I'll let you know my char name. It's the cutest! ;D