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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Eisaderfrau View Post
    People apparently can't wrap their heads around a very simple concept:

    Diablo 3 IS NOT a single player game with multiplayer mode

    Diablo 3 IS a multiplayer game with single player functionality.

    Basically, because of how the game is designed, you can play this MULTIPLAYER game as a single player. Because you choose to do so does not make you a special flower who deserves special treatment. It is a server-based game with a ton of info stored server-side. They won't make a stand-alone version for no reason.

    If you can play single player then it is a single player game with co-op. Sorry, that's how it works. Calling it a multiplayer game with single player functionality is hilarious. How many people are required to play D3? Just one; you know what they call that? Single-player.

  2. #382
    Everything is normal. Blizzard is working at 110%. They only had 6 years and a couple billions to developp this game.

    "but but they are doing their best!!!"

    Battle Net 2.0 was not ready for Diablo 3, deal with it.

  3. #383
    I can see where your frustration comes from. You're using Diamond Skin and Spectral Blades instead of Frost Nova and Magic Missile, you are so wrong!

    *grabs pop corn*

  4. #384
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    You guys are all saying " oh no! trying to fix problems? how dare they " in a joking manner, but when you really think about it... all of these errors are caused by making it online only to begin with. So technically, they are screwing you in the butt once, then not taking the time to properly screw you in the butt, then covering the tracks of the miss-screw, then re- screwing you in the butt.

    I don't care, it's not really acceptable.

  5. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    Preventing botting, item duping etc, which ofc do not exist in wow.
    Oh wait they do. So any excuse for it being for protection against cheating is utter rubbish.
    If you honestly think that the level of botting and duping in WoW is remotely comparable to what it used to be in D1 and D2 then you must have never played those games.

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by zordayn View Post
    The point of my analogy was trying to take an online only game (like an MMO) and then saying that there needs to be a single player aspect to it is meaningless. Yeah I get that Diablo 1 and 2 had singleplayer modes. I played those games and I understand that. Diablo 3 differs from the previous games in the series in that it is online only. "Historical precedence" really doesn't hold any significance, D3 doesn't need to have single player mode just because the older games did.
    And the fact that it differs is the problem. That decision is the cause for all of this. They decided to set aside the fact that people have been playing Diablo solo for the better part of two decades, give all the people that played it in that manner the finger, and opened up the can of worms that is always-on connectivity. The point is that it should have had an offline mode, and there is no reason aside from the dubious piracy bullshit that it cannot. That decision, and therefore everything that it caused, can't be reasonably defended.

  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by damntree View Post
    If you can play single player then it is a single player game with co-op. Sorry, that's how it works. Calling it a multiplayer game with single player functionality is hilarious. How many people are required to play D3? Just one; you know what they call that? Single-player.
    I can get to 85 solo (and without ever seeing another player on the right server) just fine in WoW. Hell, I could get to the level cap solo in almost every MMORPG I've played in recent years.

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by damntree View Post
    If you can play single player then it is a single player game with co-op. Sorry, that's how it works. Calling it a multiplayer game with single player functionality is hilarious. How many people are required to play D3? Just one; you know what they call that? Single-player.
    You only require one person to play WoW. You just won't get nearly as much out of it, and miss out on the whole social side of the game, which it is built to accomodate.

  9. #389
    It being online only doesn't even do anything to stop piracy. There are already working, reverse engineered diablo III servers. You can even run one on your local computer and connect the client to localhost to play without an internet connection.

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Venali View Post
    Updating to hopefully stop future errors? How terrible of them.
    Lol oh how wrong you were.
    Still wondering why I play this game.
    I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.

  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Prag View Post
    It's so well done that so many people are trying to play at the same time and they're having hardware issues.

    I call it standard risk for a good game. You can call it/me whatever you want, but you're still going to be playing this game (and enjoying it), same as me. It's funny when the 'anti-fanboys' are just closet fanboys. You love this product so much you're willing to insult complete strangers on the internet over it.
    I played the beta, it was alright. There were no issue, even during the stress testing there were minimal issues, at least on my end. I've managed to play ~20 minutes between all the down time. Between them launching the US servers at 4 AM where I live, and the well over 7 hours of downtime on day 1, I won't be bothering to play it again. I will say, that I've tried to log in exactly 7 times today, 1 of which was successful. I guess if that seems satisfactory to you, so be it. Preparing the service, and the servers are their jobs, if other people did their jobs and preparation as poorly as Blizzard has shown they do theirs for launch day, I imagine you'd be complaining as well. Maybe not, maybe you've always gotten exactly what you ordered at a restaurant (fast food and otherwise), and exactly what you paid for from eBay, or from where ever, every single time you've bought something. If not, and you've ever complained about service, or a product, then you should have no problem seeing why people would complain about something that shouldn't be having these issues in the first place. But assuming you are that lucky, that nothing has ever gone wrong with any service you've received, then good on you, chief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baaltheron View Post
    It's a single player game.
    It's a single player game hosted on online servers. GET OVER IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truefacts View Post
    You know what's fun about Minecraft? Since day one of their multiplayer server, every time they've patched, you are able to connect to vanilla servers immediately, without issue, and Minecraft.net doesn't ever need to be up for you to play a single player experience. Fascinating! That such a thing could be possible in this day and age!
    Minecraft isn't an online only game.
    When you choose to play a game that you know is only playable online, you understand that your ability to play the game is dependent on the servers being available for you to play. If you still choose to play the game then complain that your gameplay was interrupted due to unforeseen technical issues, it invalidates your complaints, and just makes you look like a whiner.

  14. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt View Post
    Minecraft isn't an online only game.
    When you choose to play a game that you know is only playable online, you understand that your ability to play the game is dependent on the servers being available for you to play. If you still choose to play the game then complain that your gameplay was interrupted due to unforeseen technical issues, it invalidates your complaints, and just makes you look like a whiner.
    "Unforeseen" "...happens every time Blizzard launches a game."

    Pick one please. I'm not going to dig into the rest, I'll just assume you're as lucky as Prag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    You know, this happens to WoW, too. Servers get shut down or reset. This is nothing new.

    There are some instability issues. I'd rather they take down my server and get things working than live with the stress and frustration of disconnects and lag.
    Guys, you're missing the point.

    He's playing a single-player game and can't play it because multiplayer servers have to come down. It's not bashing Blizzard needing to take their servers down to fix things, it's bashing Blizzard's absolutely fucking stupid DRM system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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  16. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by Eroz View Post
    It's only game, why you heff to be mad?
    Aside from the inexperienced or forgetful of issues with launch day online titles, people are mad because Diablo was traditionally a single player game with a multiplayer capability that didn't require a constant internet connection as a result of anti-consumer DRM, Screaming at others that D3 is just a multiplayer game is just rabid fanboyism. The difficulty scales with number of present players, so it's possible to play it by yourself, unlike WoW, where I wouldn't be able to (in most cases for current, level-appropriate content) storm through a dungeon or raid by myself.

    Face it, the DRM is there just to prevent exploits, otherwise the real money auction house would be flooded with duped items and achievements would be meaningless. PvP would be awful, with assholes just cheating the game. If for some unforeseen events Blizzard shuts down its servers, anyone that wants to legitimately play D3 is fucked. Server shut downs aren't unprecedented, either. Big game companies have done it before. It's such a low probability of this happening it's not a concern for D3's effective product life.

    I'm not a fan of the DRM and the auction house, or the continuing homogenization and dumbing-down of Blizzard's games. Leave the mouthbreathers to fling shit at each other over these anti-consumer practices.

  17. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Guys, you're missing the point.

    He's playing a single-player game and can't play it because multiplayer servers have to come down. It's not bashing Blizzard needing to take their servers down to fix things, it's bashing Blizzard's absolutely fucking stupid DRM system.
    Had this game launched without the features that make this an online-only game, it would be people saying "Game is boring where's my online stuff" and then we're back to square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prag View Post
    Had this game launched without the features that make this an online-only game, it would be people saying "Game is boring where's my online stuff" and then we're back to square one.
    No, not really. If you want to play it singleplayer, why do you need a friends list at all times? Why do you need an auction house? You won't need matchmaking because you're playing single-player.

    There's no justifying Blizzard's stupid DRM system. Stop trying, it makes you look foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Prag View Post
    I can get to 85 solo (and without ever seeing another player on the right server) just fine in WoW. Hell, I could get to the level cap solo in almost every MMORPG I've played in recent years.
    It's not even the same and you guys need to stop throwing that out there. WoW is designed for you to play with other people. They don't design solo raids, they don't design solo dungeons. That is a multiplayer game in which you can play by yourself.

    Diablo is designed for one player to play through the entire story and then gear up his/her character and explore to his/her heart's content. It is a single-player game that you can play with up to FOUR people. It's still a SINGLE. PLAYER. GAME. There should be zero servers involved with my gameplay.

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    Dude I'm a total asshole. Here I was thinking I'd get to play a bit more of the 60 dollar game I bought after a long day at work and school. I'm just the biggest most self entitled jerk in the universe because I don't wanna wait till 11:45 pst.

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