Project Rebuild: Inventive ways numbers can be replenished for each race

[Mace]

Wow has devastated lots of races through the various wars, however, as a fantasy, magic exists and unual ways exist that can create numbers for races. In hte lore some races have some eay options, with former examples already existing and potential lore events making an easily forseeable number boosts.


How do you think each race can boost their numbers?

Orcs : Orc numbers were lore thanks to SoO, but not that low because Garrosh cloned/grew most of his forces... Cloning and rapid growth done previously. Was this possible both with green and brown orcs? or just the green ones? There are also boosts from present day blackrock Ocs, Dragonmaw and outland ones.

Gnomes: Leper gnomes seemed to be capable of being re-constituted in the gnome starting area, they were working on stabilising it, could be as ource of both normal gnomes returning and some returning as leper gnomes if the gnomes perfect it., as well as new junker gnomes and mecah gnomes could boost numbers.

Blood elves: With the sunwell restored and teh light, lots of Wretched could potentially be restored boosting numbers significantly (same for high elves who turned wretched). void elf numbers would come off blood elves mainly

Darkspear: No real increase to the tribe, however they can potentially recruit other troll tribes to boost thier numbers significantly. Bwonsamdi could somehow give up some troll numbers additionally

Tauren: Only source semes to be sub-races : Taunka/Yaungol in addition to highmountain. Existing Tauren aren't htat numerous.. I am not sure if the Kalimdor tauren were nearly wiped out by the Centaur or if it was just Cairne's tribe. if just Cairne's then we could have potentially a lot more Tauren, but if it was all of them, sub-races are the only source I can see .

Night elves: Farondis could be restored, emerald dream worgen return, some nightborne become kaldorei again, new sub races like naz'dorei (naga elf too) and Illidari while few could have numbers boosted by Satyr returning back to kaldorei and gaining the illidari form (could get night elf warlocks from them) - night elf numbers seem severley depleted lore wise atm.


Safe Numbers
Humans have suffered a lot, but they still seem by far the most numerous, so although numbers are down, there are a lot more, they are not like say - night elves or void elves or gnomes.

Goblins - while bilgewater are few, there are tons of goblins, and according to some old lore, goblins breed very very quickly - but their crazy experiments yield a high mortality rate.

Pandaren; They didn't suffer extinction level events like some races, though those in the horde and alliance are few, we have lots out there. and if factions end,

[Skytotem]

Forsaken can just grow parts in vats using alchemy and bring them to life with the Mogu Anima that the belfs stole from Isle of Thunder

Frankenstein-style forsaken

[Varodoc]

The Ren'dorei are already growing in numbers as both high elves and blood elves flock to their banner to conduct studies and research on the Void in peace. Sexual reproduction is not an option unless the child is somehow immune to the whispers, but perhaps the knowledge contained within Telogrus Rift will be key to resolving that issue.

Abducting blood elves and injecting them with the Void seems like an efficient and pragmatic method to increase their numbers, should the need arise. Even so, they are already capable of deploying large military forces, as displayed in the Battle of Lordaeron and in the suicide mission in Nazmir.

[Feanoro]

"What is Goldshire" for 500, Alex.

More seriously, don't worry about replenishing, Blizz pulls numbers out of their asses all the time.

[Arrashi]

Step 1 - Find a really (and i mean really) (like slaaneshi levels) strong aphrodisiac.
Step 2 - Throw that shit in industrial amount to all local water supplies
Step 3 - <Redacted>
Step 4 - Profit.

Also have 500+ gold for every kid after second.

[MatthiasVonTzeskagrad]

With the huge ammounts of ERP going on on some places... the issue is more than solved.
Also, Blizz doesn't care.

[Rozz]

The issue with certain races like NEs is that they just hate reproducing. Of course they don't literally hate it, but they don't procreate at the same rate as humans or orcs. Decimate orcs and they'll repopulate enough in 5 years. Decimate elves and they're going to be nearly extinct, because the adults die off faster than they're replaced.

As for draenei, what even is their population? They've been slaughtered across the galaxy and their population is small enough to fit on a ship (however large, it's still not the size of a nation). Shouldn't they be near extinction like blood elves?

[Beloren]

The issue with certain races like NEs is that they just hate reproducing. Of course they don't literally hate it, but they don't procreate at the same rate as humans or orcs. Decimate orcs and they'll repopulate enough in 5 years. Decimate elves and they're going to be nearly extinct, because the adults die off faster than they're replaced.

As for draenei, what even is their population? They've been slaughtered across the galaxy and their population is small enough to fit on a ship (however large, it's still not the size of a nation). Shouldn't they be near extinction like blood elves?

I think in the case of nelves, it's different. During the long vigil. it wasn't about civilization, or families - it was about protecting the world, and war.. most of the men were asleep for millennia doing druid stuff - no babies making during that time, the females constantly on the hunt for satyrs, rogue arcane wielders and strangers getting too close to the Well of Eternity...they were not a race doing life the usual way. Things return to after the long vigil.

[Rendark]

The Ren'dorei are already growing in numbers as both high elves and blood elves flock to their banner to conduct studies and research on the Void in peace. Sexual reproduction is not an option unless the child is somehow immune to the whispers, but perhaps the knowledge contained within Telogrus Rift will be key to resolving that issue.

Abducting blood elves and injecting them with the Void seems like an efficient and pragmatic method to increase their numbers, should the need arise. Even so, they are already capable of deploying large military forces, as displayed in the Battle of Lordaeron and in the suicide mission in Nazmir.

Congratulations, that is one of the most cringe things i have ever seen.

Infraction
Reason: Minor Trolling - You are free to disagree but please do so in a more constructive manner.

[Arrashi]

The issue with certain races like NEs is that they just hate reproducing.

This line alone brings intriguing yet highly disturbing image(s).

[Hubbl3]

Congratulations, that is one of the most cringe things i have ever seen.

Don't worry, the poster will post more of this

Anyway: The best way to help the races get their numbers up is to bribe the writers to just create the numbers needed. That or just peace time for a few generations.

[Aeula]

Or Blizzard could do what they always do and poof, suddenly every race has a population so vast that the planet itself wouldn't have enough space for them all.

[Felrane]

Old horde had breeding camps for the tribes that wouldn't join as well as surviving draenei. Warlocks would then take the children and forcefully grow them to adulthood. Then would bind their minds with spells to force them to obey and were mostly used as front line fighters this was with just a basic understanding of Felmagic. With todays knowledge/lore creating fully functioning adults without all the binding magic in a matter of days shouldn't be that hard.

Black dragons were cloning and genetically splicing species together. Heck with Mogu fleshshaping and soulbinding magic you could just create an artifical army using animal souls to animate the constructs. Though I would just take Ulduar back and create another Iron/earthen whatever you wanted army that is loyal to whatever faction. Once your kingdoms are secure with automations the populations can recover naturally. At this point Horde/ally fighting is just dumb and very forced.

[Rozz]

I think in the case of nelves, it's different. During the long vigil. it wasn't about civilization, or families - it was about protecting the world, and war.. most of the men were asleep for millennia doing druid stuff - no babies making during that time, the females constantly on the hunt for satyrs, rogue arcane wielders and strangers getting too close to the Well of Eternity...they were not a race doing life the usual way. Things return to after the long vigil.

But how completely? Even if it's just recently, with the multitudes of war/disasters we faced within the last 10 lore year it'd still be brutal on their population. I know BEs/HEs are slowly recovering, but they are also open to interracial relationships with mortals that help increase their population. While half elves are few, it does show that BEs/HEs are starting/willing to breed closer to the rate of mortal races. I'm not sure how large the current NE population is, but that may be something to consider until their society/numbers are stable enough to replenish themself.

I worry that the Alliance's 'immortal' races only make a few hundred children for every thousand adults lost. That's a bad situation that gets worse with each new disaster like Teldrassil. Of course blizzard could easily ignore the situation and write never-ending troops, but they have set some races for an inevitable extinction at the current rate. Even BEs are still at risk despite having more children, because of the racial dilution from HEs.

[Trassk]

I call it the Boom Boom tent.

Shove them all in a tent.

Boom Boom happens

9 months later, problem solved

[Mace]

But how completely? Even if it's just recently, with the multitudes of war/disasters we faced within the last 10 lore year it'd still be brutal on their population. I know BEs/HEs are slowly recovering, but they are also open to interracial relationships with mortals that help increase their population. While half elves are few, it does show that BEs/HEs are starting/willing to breed closer to the rate of mortal races. I'm not sure how large the current NE population is, but that may be something to consider until their society/numbers are stable enough to replenish themself.

I worry that the Alliance's 'immortal' races only make a few hundred children for every thousand adults lost. That's a bad situation that gets worse with each new disaster like Teldrassil. Of course blizzard could easily ignore the situation and write never-ending troops, but they have set some races for an inevitable extinction at the current rate. Even BEs are still at risk despite having more children, because of the racial dilution from HEs.

Yeh, blizzard probably killed too many of the immortal races numbers.. but both of them are very magical, they can have ways to replenish like the OP said.

Draenei - can get massive numbers from AU Draenor, Eredar and Krokul from Argus who were helping the Illidari, and Outland. They were slow breeders which makes sense.. they're immortal, no need to hurry to do anything. Children are prized and valued, and they can afford to wait for the right circumstance.. they'd been on draenor thousands of years, but their population wasn't that high - however we don't know if they can speed up reproduction..maybe the light helps them?

For night elves, it is more interesting. But... like OP says, they can "uncurse" the Farondis, get the emerald dream worgen back, and restore some Satyr into Illidari, create a new sub/allied race via the naga - like the Naz'dorei - this gains them populations to the highborne, druids, Illidair, and a new allied race. Plus they can claw some numbers from the ngihtborne if the fruit of the Arcan'dor does fully reverse the nightwell damage returning them to their night elf forms - i have seen suggestions of splitting the nightborne where those born kaldorei revert back to them eventually and are generally more in support of hte kaldorei anyway, while those born Shal'dorei under the dome, don't revert and tend to be more supportive of the blood elves. Elune has some priests we defeated/liberated in the Cathedral/ToS.. if she restores those, that is more numbers.

The NElf groups aren't as big as the draenei, but they can potentially fill up 3 -4 zones.. Farondis are a whole zone, Emerald dream worgen also a whole zone, Satyra and Naga restored could potentially be fairly large too, although if you make hte naga a half naga/NIGHT elf like the naz'dorei concept, that will help for a night elf faction of allies.

[Beloren]

Yeh, blizzard probably killed too many of the immortal races numbers.. but both of them are very magical, they can have ways to replenish like the OP said.

Draenei - can get massive numbers from AU Draenor, Eredar and Krokul from Argus who were helping the Illidari, and Outland. They were slow breeders which makes sense.. they're immortal, no need to hurry to do anything. Children are prized and valued, and they can afford to wait for the right circumstance.. they'd been on draenor thousands of years, but their population wasn't that high - however we don't know if they can speed up reproduction..maybe the light helps them?

For night elves, it is more interesting. But... like OP says, they can "uncurse" the Farondis, get the emerald dream worgen back, and restore some Satyr into Illidari, create a new sub/allied race via the naga - like the Naz'dorei - this gains them populations to the highborne, druids, Illidair, and a new allied race. Plus they can claw some numbers from the ngihtborne if the fruit of the Arcan'dor does fully reverse the nightwell damage returning them to their night elf forms - i have seen suggestions of splitting the nightborne where those born kaldorei revert back to them eventually and are generally more in support of hte kaldorei anyway, while those born Shal'dorei under the dome, don't revert and tend to be more supportive of the blood elves. Elune has some priests we defeated/liberated in the Cathedral/ToS.. if she restores those, that is more numbers.

The NElf groups aren't as big as the draenei, but they can potentially fill up 3 -4 zones.. Farondis are a whole zone, Emerald dream worgen also a whole zone, Satyra and Naga restored could potentially be fairly large too, although if you make hte naga a half naga/NIGHT elf like the naz'dorei concept, that will help for a night elf faction of allies.

I wonder if nightborne children post Arcan'dor would come out as normal healthy night elves.


Nightborne populations can grow via time bubbles where time can pass much more quickly so they give birth and raise a child in what may take up to 40 to 100 years, but a matter of days or weeks has passed in the real world.

[KainneAbsolute]

Orcs: sometimes I wish the orcs are replenishing their numbers in secrets in Outland. Outland is dying but there is no organized Legion anymore and the Alliance doesnt care too much about the backwater world.

Gnomes: nice idea. Recover the leper gnomes is the way to go.

Elves: I think its time for elves to study the way they can unite and help each other. In the case of Night Elves, Void Elves and High Elves, maybe recover their race in the peaceful land of the Emerald Dream or in the Void. In the case of Blood Elves and Nightborne, maybe try to incorporate Fellelves, Darkfallen, and curing the Nightfallen and wretched.

Draenei: the same idea with elves. Help each other and unite everyone under the same banner, maybe some Argus Eredar and try to recover their world. The other option is the God Emperor Yrel convice everyone and makes every Draenei, Broken and Eredar join her Light Crusade.

Tauren: have good control over their territories and they have the shamanistic and might. I dont know why they dont conquer the world haha.

Trolls: after some many battles and know with the help of Zandalari, why not unite and recover their lands. Maybe they can recover Zulfarrak and Zuldrak.

[Rozz]

Yeh, blizzard probably killed too many of the immortal races numbers.. but both of them are very magical, they can have ways to replenish like the OP said.

Draenei - can get massive numbers from AU Draenor, Eredar and Krokul from Argus who were helping the Illidari, and Outland. They were slow breeders which makes sense.. they're immortal, no need to hurry to do anything. Children are prized and valued, and they can afford to wait for the right circumstance.. they'd been on draenor thousands of years, but their population wasn't that high - however we don't know if they can speed up reproduction..maybe the light helps them?

For night elves, it is more interesting. But... like OP says, they can "uncurse" the Farondis, get the emerald dream worgen back, and restore some Satyr into Illidari, create a new sub/allied race via the naga - like the Naz'dorei - this gains them populations to the highborne, druids, Illidair, and a new allied race. Plus they can claw some numbers from the ngihtborne if the fruit of the Arcan'dor does fully reverse the nightwell damage returning them to their night elf forms - i have seen suggestions of splitting the nightborne where those born kaldorei revert back to them eventually and are generally more in support of hte kaldorei anyway, while those born Shal'dorei under the dome, don't revert and tend to be more supportive of the blood elves. Elune has some priests we defeated/liberated in the Cathedral/ToS.. if she restores those, that is more numbers.

The NElf groups aren't as big as the draenei, but they can potentially fill up 3 -4 zones.. Farondis are a whole zone, Emerald dream worgen also a whole zone, Satyra and Naga restored could potentially be fairly large too, although if you make hte naga a half naga/NIGHT elf like the naz'dorei concept, that will help for a night elf faction of allies.

Well hopefully all that would help, because the 'immortals' of Azeroth certainly need it. I don't want to lose some of our coolest races to whoever can populate the fastest (which would probably be a tie between goblins or gnomes /shudder).

[Dellis0991]

The only true way of replenishing a race is sex and lot of it or mass killings for the forsaken. Also the gnome starting zone didn't cure leper gnomes, you started off as a gnome who was irradiated and went through decontamination....once a gnome goes leper they stay that way.

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The Ren'dorei are already growing in numbers as both high elves and blood elves flock to their banner to conduct studies and research on the Void in peace. Sexual reproduction is not an option unless the child is somehow immune to the whispers, but perhaps the knowledge contained within Telogrus Rift will be key to resolving that issue.

Abducting blood elves and injecting them with the Void seems like an efficient and pragmatic method to increase their numbers, should the need arise. Even so, they are already capable of deploying large military forces, as displayed in the Battle of Lordaeron and in the suicide mission in Nazmir.

....wait void elves can't reproduce?