Originally Posted by
Thekri
See this right here perfectly encapsulates why I am confused if I am really a conservative or not. I agree with a lot of the conservative talking points that I grew up with, but I do not agree with their illogical and contradictory positions on them.
I want to minimize government welfare, so that means I support a high minimum wage, government sponsored job skill training programs, and other programs that enable people to take care of themselves. Because I do believe in personal responsibility, but I also believe in helping people, not throwing shit at them and wondering why they aren't motivated enough to excel.
I am generally Pro-Life, but that means I support good sex education, availability of contraceptives, properly funding women's health clinics, providing options for single mothers to care for their children, and so forth. I also support the availability of abortion in extreme cases, but it should be properly funded and ideally rare. What I don't understand is the "Pro-Life" crowd that just wants to screw over pregnant women so hard that abortion starts to look like the only sane option, and then take that away as well. You don't want abortions? Fine, give them some options to avoid getting pregnant, and then give them options when they do get pregnant. You can't legislate away human reproduction because you don't like how it works.
I am Pro-Gun, but that means I am also for regulating guns, because they are obviously dangerous, because that is the whole point of a gun. So I don't like turning responsibility for gun regulation over to liberals that don't know shit about guns, I think the people (Like me) who want to own guns should step up and take responsibility for making them safe.
I am for secure borders. I am not for treating immigrants like shit because they had the sheer gall to try to move here. I want them to come here, America is a great country, they should be welcome to come join us. "Secure borders" to me means actually keeping out stuff like gangs, drugs and terrorists. It doesn't mean keeping out little brown kids.
I am for small government, so that means I am actually for reducing spending, not tossing obscene money at the military with no accountability or purpose.
I am for a strong military too, but as in the previous point, what the Military desperately needs is a rational foreign policy coupled with responsible oversight, not piles of cash.
So yeah, your post perfectly encapsulates why I am confused if I am actually a conservative or not, so when resident Trumpsters say I am not a real conservative I kind of agree with them. Because I actually believe the things they say they believe, along with the actual policies that would be needed to be in place to achieve them. They seem to oppose achieving all of their own talking points.