"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
107 pages mostly of one person who claims WoW isn't p2w for...reasons. If this was any other game, people would be saying it's absolutely p2w. But for some odd reason there's people who refuse to acknowledge that things like paid character boosts are blatantly p2w. I really don't understand the mentality.
Oh please, lol.
Ok, so I won't be #1 to a mythic kill on the server, but I can get damned close and get cutting edge for sure.
That's pay to win enough for most people.
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It is extremely one sided, yes. To their credit, some of the individuals saying it wasnt P2W read the replies, thought it through and said "you know what, you are right, but that still doesnt bother me that its in the game" and some even went so far as to acknowledge that it is a P2W feature, but one that they have used themselves. For some reason, the last couple of people just cant accept it.
So you think that people will be able to buy CE first week of the new raid? That it will be available in enough supply that anyone who wants it can buy it? The power isn't always available to buy with gold. So the token isn't always pay to win since you can pay and not win. Good enough for most people doesn't mean it is accurate.
Last edited by rhorle; 2021-06-18 at 01:47 AM.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Like you always could. It doesn't really matter what you think it's ethical or not. For other players such possibility always existed, even without any conversion, just direct purchase.
Still doesn't give you advantage nor make you win. Those guys who sell you boosts have the advantage... and your money too.
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The problem is that only one side of the argument have a strong, consistent, and factual argument, and the other side a flip-flopping all over the place, constantly contradicting themselves and each other, and cant agree on anything other than "me love wow. wow good. wow no P2W. P2W bad"
I think this shambles sums it up quite nicely, and they are all in context, taken from just a couple of pages of this discussion from one user:
The ability to make gold is not restricted by the time you've played. A person that has played for 1 day has the ability to make gold in the game. Just as a person that has played 10 years has the ability to make gold. The amount being lower does not mean you lack the ability to make gold. The potential is always there. All level does is open up more possibilities but it doesn't change the ability to make gold.
A level 30 player can make more gold then a level 60 player if they know what they are doing. Buy low sell high is not restricted by level or time you've spent in the game. Just because you keep failing to understand that doesn't make it a shambles or a flip flop. WoW is pay to win but not from the token.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
I'm fairly sure this thread is now redundant and a new one needs to be created where we actually try to agree on what Pay to Win is since if we can't agree on what it actually is, how can we agree if the game is or isn't it.
So not technically but factually. No ifs and buts.
I don't want to promote those websites (like its hard to google lol) but you can get rough idea that they are still fairly popular despite existence of token.
And I know people who still "work" there.
So it was always P2W. Doesn't matter you consider them unethical.
My Collection
- Bring back my damn zoom distance/MoP Portals - I read OP minimum, 1st page maximum-make wow alt friendly again -Please post constructively(topkek) -Kill myself
I also hate that someone can play 8 hours a day while I can play 1-1,5 when super lucky, but I’m not asking for a per day limit of /played for everyone.
Having more spare time to spend is not a skill, you have it or you don’t, why have I to be penalized for playing way less then average?
Last edited by chiddie; 2021-06-18 at 06:46 PM.