Warlords of Draenor - Darker Nights, New Character Models, Blue Tweets, News Recap

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Warlords of Draenor - Darker Nights
Mumper recently let us know that some work related to darker nights is underway, so we took a look at what nights look like in several parts of Draenor. These screenshots show the areas with bigger differences between night and day, so keep in mind many areas currently don't change much at all.





Warlords of Draenor - New Character Model Faces
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Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Druid (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
the new feral DoC... will we just receive healing from rejuv when put on someone else or will there be a buff gained when casted
You gain a Rejuv as well. (Celestalon)
Thanks and also will there be any snapshotting for feral bleeds with TF or bloodtalons, or is it entirely gone? Thanks
Those will explicitly snapshot. (Celestalon)
Ok, so pretty much just snapshotting bleeds from trinkets procs are gone?
Correct. (Celestalon)

This is a horrible change, please revert. There are loads of situations where I might choose "inappropriate one". How about RP?
Plan for travel form: one button does Aqua+Stag+Flight, baseline. Glyph splits it into Aqua+RideableStag and Flight. (Celestalon)
Seriously? I need to glyph out of that mess? ugh...
I'm guessing the 'mess' you're referring to is the bugs that there currently are with it. We'll fix those. (Celestalon)
in places where I can fly, I still don't always want flight form with no ground travel form available.
Then grats, your desire will be satisfied by this solution. (Celestalon)
I dont see why youre trying so hard to make it work as 1 button. Is it the end of the world if the forms are seperate?
Because constantly iterating and improving the game is what we strive to do. (Celestalon)
I'm not sure constantly iterating is something that's good to strive for, without the improvement part
Of course not. Change for change's sake is bad. However, it's sometimes hard for each individual to see improvement. (Celestalon)

Mage (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
clarification on pris crystal. manual target or auto redirect? concerns about clunkiness and/or movement fights?
It will automatically target it when you place it, but you can still swap targets off of it if you want. (Celestalon)

Ever thought about stacking pyroblasts, like arcane missiles or ice lances do already?
Yeah, but you kind of already get that with Heating Up, and stacking further would lose the gameplay of spending vs saving. (Celestalon)

Priest (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
while DP is active. Also, it forces us to pick Solace /Insanity so we don't feel gimped while we mindflay.
It doesn't force you into that at all. MSpike still removes DoTs to ensure rotational variety. (Celestalon)
Don't find it odd while our "burst" window is up (DP) we are forced to use a weaker spell - MindFlay- instead of MSpike w/ CoP?
In a playstyle that otherwise has higher burst? No, not really. (Celestalon)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Whirlwind as part of ST rotation just shows how little idea you have of what to do with warriors. No other class has AOE for ST.
Right, except for Arcane, Fire, Frost, Demo, DfA Rogues, Ferals, Enhance, Windwalkers, Frost DKs, T16 Rets, and all tanks. (Celestalon)
Fire? If you mean Ignite/Combustion spreads, I don't think splash dmg from ST spell = primarily AE spell.
Living Bomb / Unstable Fireball / Blast Wave. (Celestalon)
Ok, that's kinda my point: Fireball isn't primarily AE; Unstable is a bonus to it. Bomb, I'd agree. BW, worth using ST?
Absolutely. (Celestalon)

PvE
with the responsiveness change will we see more "twitch" mechanics in raids ie wrack, defile, interrupts on Maloriak?
I wouldn't say "more" - but dealing with the ones we do have will feel better. (WatcherDev)
I can't promise there won't still be that "but I was out of it on my screen, look at my corpse!" guy in your raid, though. (WatcherDev)

PvP
Agree with shared sets for pve and pvp but they should be different for the factions. I like glorious ones for ally
The plan is to color them different by faction (holinka)

So will there be lag problems with the Huge pvp zone and capital zones sharing the same area? We did shy from that in WOTLK
Ashran is on a different instance. The staging areas are on your home realm. (holinka)

Is Mekkatorque still going to be kind of "open beta" server, or you changed your mind?
We haven't changed our mind. It was always a second server for those with beta access. (holinka)
I mean, what about that PvP server, with broad access, for more precise testing purposes; still in plans?
that was never the plan. I think some people misinterpreted what we said about a separate PvP realm during beta. (holinka)

ever any talk about rated/queued 1v1s? Queue up just how you would 2s/3s/5s but you queue into just a duel?
.No plans for a 1v1 queue but one awesome change in Warlords for duelers is we can reset cooldowns at the start of a duel now! (holinka)

how will the new pvp toggle affect cross realm raid groups? I was thinking pvp player gets pulled to pve server how will that work?
it uses the host realms rules (holinka)

Will Skirmishes be available for lower levels aswell or just max?
the plan is lower level as well (holinka)

Reputation / Questing
I really feel the introductory Tanaan quest chain should be phased. Really breaks immersion, otherwise.
Phased, or instanced, where it's your own personal storyline? It's similar to the DK start experience, which had other players. (WatcherDev)

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This article was originally published in forum thread: Warlords of Draenor - Darker Nights, New Character Models, Blue Tweets, News Recap started by chaud View original post
Published on 2014-07-06 08:27 PM
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  1. Tornwar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Vargur View Post
    But then you'd see nothing while flying....
    Ahem, torches!
  1. OneSent's Avatar
    The night is not dark enough in those screenshots. Still looks like dusk/evening/sunset.
  1. Ayperos's Avatar
    I hope they get a little darker than that, or those dusk screen shots? And I hope it applies to all of WoW zones, not just Draneor. I really hope it hits wrath zones, because its mostly daylight 24/7 in the zones there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSent View Post
    The night is not dark enough in those screenshots. Still looks like dusk/evening/sunset.
    I concur, unless those are dusk shots. Final Fantasy 14 has the night time done right. Should be like that.
  1. thilicen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by OneSent View Post
    The night is not dark enough in those screenshots. Still looks like dusk/evening/sunset.
    Those have not been touched. MMO-champ did a day/night comparison of those zones -today-, the solution mentioned on the tweet clearly states it's not done yet.
  1. Demontjuh's Avatar
    i'd prefer something like this:
  1. Mahourai's Avatar
    It's really funny that "dark nights", a feature literally from Vanilla that was only removed because Blizzard borked the lighting up, is now a touted feature of a new WoW expansion a decade later.
  1. Alopex Major's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Koala View Post
    makes me want night elf males sooner so we can give them feed back aghhh
    Yeah I notice he didn't mention them

    I'm also really curious for Tauren female.
  1. Trolandw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahourai View Post
    It's really funny that "dark nights", a feature literally from Vanilla that was only removed because Blizzard borked the lighting up, is now a touted feature of a new WoW expansion a decade later.
    Well, it' not like a feature they are going to put on the box. People are asking about it and so they are responding. There's really nothing more to it.
  1. Ayperos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahourai View Post
    It's really funny that "dark nights", a feature literally from Vanilla that was only removed because Blizzard borked the lighting up, is now a touted feature of a new WoW expansion a decade later.
    They even said it was because lots of people only play at night, and they argue they can't see what they are doing, so the brightened the world up.
  1. Raysz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahourai View Post
    It's really funny that "dark nights", a feature literally from Vanilla that was only removed because Blizzard borked the lighting up, is now a touted feature of a new WoW expansion a decade later.
    It's not a touted feature. Not everything they add or change is a touted feature, I do hope you understand this.
  1. Awbee's Avatar
    Those screenshots look gorgeous, night or not.


    But removing choice from Druid travel form is an incredibly stupid idea. If I want to run around as a stag in Teldrassil or any other place where flight is possible, I better be able to without having to use one of the (already all accounted for) minor glyph slots.

    Really, this might sound overdramatic, but this line of thought on side of the developers is slowly ruining the game, in my opinion. Stuff getting more and more and more streamlined is NOT always good. Next thing we'll all play WoW on console, or what? Things are more a lot more fun when players can be free and creative and have choice. Telling Druids "No, I'm sure you don't want to use stag form in a place where it's not 100% most effective" is really bad. Taking choice away from the player, for no good reason at all.
  1. thilicen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahourai View Post
    It's really funny that "dark nights", a feature literally from Vanilla that was only removed because Blizzard borked the lighting up, is now a touted feature of a new WoW expansion a decade later.
    One tweet about it and it's a touted feature? Seriously..
  1. insomniac's Avatar
    Dude why are this guys so angry at face designers. I have been an undead for all I can remember and one of my characters has the similar face, except without forehead markings. That new face looks freakin spot-on. I really like it. Any more resembling and they will have to just give us the old face with low polygons.
  1. Shadowbane's Avatar
    Would prefer darker nights. MUCH darker than what we have, not kiddy safe-mode invisible sun in the ski shadows-at-night nights. There's a reason Duskwood isn't half as atmospheric as we remember it to be when the nights were actually dark.
  1. DeathbyFrostBomb73's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raysz View Post
    It's not a touted feature. Not everything they add or change is a touted feature, I do hope you understand this.
    Well they may tout it at this coming Blizzcon, but for now yes it's not a touted feature for WoD
  1. medievalman1's Avatar
    Any word if blizz will allow the millions of us with existing high/max level characters a 1-time free recustomization of our characters?

    And yes, I did do a quick search and didn't find anything definitive...
  1. Lupen202's Avatar
    I would prefer a bit darker, honestly. But it's an amazing step forward, and at the end of the day it is an improvement so I'm happy; I've been wanting some actual night time for so long now. Would be neat to have some lighting effects updated too.
  1. Tygera's Avatar
    the character model complaints before stuff is done is getting really old. just like "no flying" and the city hubs. Blizzard stop addressing these issues please, don't waste your time with these people.
  1. Triggers's Avatar
    I hope you guys understand they don't want to make nights too dark because some people don't like it extremely dark. The screenshots shown are perfect, but any darker would be hard on some player's eyes. It's bad design to make the game hard to play for some people for half of the day. Some of the altered screenshots shown are ridiculous. This isn't some single player action RPG where you can go to sleep and wake up later. I love a realistic atmosphere, but I don't want to get home and strain to see my quest objectives, or anything for that matter.

    Might be just me, but I hate doing things in games like Skyrim during the night. I love how it looks, and I appreciate the effort put into the night sky, and stuff... but I feel I can't realistically do anything outside at night. Might just be my bad eyes... Dunno.
  1. tangers58's Avatar
    Content disappearing left and right... but don't worry, because now the sky will be slightly darker at night!
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