My brother reduced his tenant's rent and made her sleep with him as compensation.

[Fahrenheit]

I'm almost positive this is the premise of about a quarter of all porn ever made.

Girl: Oh no! I can't pay that (parking ticket/rent/plumbing bill/misc. service)!
Guy: Well, you NEED to pay for it.
Girl: There must be something I can do for you? I'll do anything!
Guy: Anything?
Girl: Anything....

Bow chicka bow wow

[semaphore]

Well, it clearly was an attack, don't be so coy. If you're going to backhandedly insult people's intelligence at least own the insult.

No, not really, overdefensive much? Lack of knowledge on something, doesn't equate to an lack of intelligence. The two are plainly distinct.

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No, not really, overdefensive much? Lack of knowledge on something, doesn't equate to an lack of intelligence. The two are plainly distinct.

You just can't let the ad hominem go, can you?

[Stuffs]

Who is to say she hasn't whored herself out before? Would that change things here? Would if change things if the part about her parents wasnt added? Would it changed things if she was a man, and her landlord and older woman?

So many shitty double standards, not enough facts.

Yes, it would actually change things if she was providing solely for herself, and not for her kid brother after the parents died.
And no, a 300 pound woman exploiting a guy taking care of his sister, if we're going to completely gender change, isnt really any better.

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Excepts he's not taking an advantage of her, he's providing her with a reasonable option ease her financial situation.

This is quite funny imo. It's obvious that a young girl who just lost their parents and has to take care of her little brother is in a fucked up situation already. Financially just being 1 of the problems. That his brother wants to ease her financial problem is nothing. That he wants to do this with sex, which clearly the girl isn't happy about, knowing it's hard for the girl in this situation to reject because she has to take care of herself AND her brother, is quite frankly unbelievable. If you find this normal, I'm seriously doubting your morals.

"So John what did you do last weekend?"
- "Oh you know, lower the rent for this 21 year old girl who has to take care of her 11 year old brother because both her parents died in an accident."
"Damn John, you're a good person"
- "Yeah, all I'm asking in return is weekly sex, nice right?"

[bestpike]

I'm almost positive this is the premise of about a quarter of all porn ever made.

Girl: Oh no! I can't pay that (parking ticket/rent/plumbing bill/misc. service)!
Guy: Well, you NEED to pay for it.
Girl: There must be something I can do for you? I'll do anything!
Guy: Anything?
Girl: Anything....

Bow chicka bow wow

Hmmm so what? Women know what men want, and they offer it. This wouldn't work if men didn't have this intense primal need. What I'm saying here is, you don't only need to sell something, you also need someone who wants to buy it in the first place.

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This is quite funny imo. It's obvious that a young girl who just lost their parents and has to take care of her little brother is in a fucked up situation already. Financially just being 1 of the problems. That his brother wants to ease her financial problem is nothing. That he wants to do this with sex, which clearly the girl isn't happy about, knowing it's hard for the girl in this situation to reject because she has to take care of herself AND her brother, is quite frankly unbelievable. If you find this normal, I'm seriously doubting your morals.

"So John what did you do last weekend?"
- "Oh you know, lower the rent for this 21 year old girl who has to take care of her 11 year old brother because both her parents died in an accident."
"Damn John, you're a good person"
- "Yeah, all I'm asking in return is weekly sex, nice right?"

No pun intended I suppose? No?

Also that straw man doesn't really make you right, it makes you more wrong. She's practically getting money for it.

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I don't believe you actually support the claims your making in your posts. If you do, then i'm very sorry for you! However a substantive response seems rather pointless.

Probably since you have nothing to say other than taking out our emotional colouring pens.

[VoljinforWarchief]

I can see why people might think this is legally gray if they don't understand coercion and positions of power. But I don't really see how this can come across as anything other than morally wrong. He's sexually exploiting her due to her financial situation, when he has no need of her money anyway. It's wrong.

You sure are investing alot of energy into a fake thread.

[Fahrenheit]

Hmmm so what? Women know what men want, and they offer it. This wouldn't work if men didn't have this intense primal need. What I'm saying here is, you don't only need to sell something, you also need someone who wants to buy it in the first place.

Not sure what to say? Thank you for agreeing?

[Xanjori]

No pun intended I suppose? No?

Also that straw man doesn't really make you right, it makes you more wrong. She's practically getting money for it.

My partner was made homeless once and stayed with a friend for a week, during that week he wanted sex with her, she said no but he persisted, they ended up having sex, Im sure she should be happy right because in exchange for that sex she basically got a weeks free living!

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Yes, it would actually change things if she was providing solely for herself, and not for her kid brother after the parents died.
And no, a 300 pound woman exploiting a guy taking care of his sister, if we're going to completely gender change, isnt really any better.

In the eyes of the law, how would her parents being alive or not matter at all? When trying to prove he may have coerced or raped her, what would that change? If he simply said " hey, I have an idea..." what does her parents being alive change? This was only added to incite sympathy for her.

And I think gender would matter. If there was no gender added or alluded to in this story, I 100% with all my heart think the insane "murder the landlord" outrage because he is a "violent rapist" would not have happened, and of course I doubt Semaphore would even be in this thread.

Just look at the title. The title uses the word "made her" while the rest of the post is less accusatory, and much more neutral about how the landlord handled it. It is written in a way to incite dislike in the brother, and sympathy in the girl, which is wrong if you really want an unbiased, objective opinion.

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[Ravic]

Damn I kinda wish she lived near Dallas. I have three empty bed rooms, wouldn't even charge her rent or sex.

[Stuffs]

In the eyes of the law, how would her parents being alive or not matter at all? When trying to prove he may have coerced or raped her, what would that change? If he simply said " hey, I have an idea..." what does her parents being alive change? This was only added to incite sympathy for her.

The point is she would not normally be raising her 11 year old brother. It has a real point even if you don't like it.

And I think gender would matter. If there was no gender added or alluded to in this story, I 100% with all my heart think the insane "murder the landlord" outrage because he is a "violent rapist" would not have happened, and of course I doubt Semaphore would even be in this thread.

No one is advocating murder. Hyperbole is bad.
And you don't think a morbidly obese woman forcing herself on a man trying to raise his brother wouldn't earn responses?

Just look at the title. The title uses the word "made her" while the rest of the post is less accusatory, and much more neutral about how the landlord handled it. It is written in a way to incite dislike in the brother, and sympathy in the girl, which is wrong if you really want an unbiased, objective opinion.

He effectively is. The title is accurate.

Damn I kinda wish she lived near Dallas. I have three empty bed rooms, wouldn't even charge her rent or sex.

Lot's of people who rent actually do have a heart.
I know we've been way too lenient with certain people in an attempt to help them get a leg up.

Our family runs an apartment complex, and the fact someone would abuse a roof like this irks me on an additional level.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

The point is she would not normally be raising her 11 year old brother. It has a real point even if you don't like it.


No one is advocating murder. Hyperbole is bad.
And you don't think a morbidly obese woman forcing herself on a man trying to raise his brother wouldn't earn responses?


He effectively is. The title is accurate.


Lot's of people who rent actually do have a heart.
I know we've been way too lenient with certain people in an attempt to help them get a leg up.

Our family runs an apartment complex, and the fact someone would abuse a roof like this irks me on an additional level.

See thats the problem, I have seen plenty of posts advocating violence against him, chopping off his balls, killing him, breaking all his limbs. I have seen more people read a short post and jump right to RAPIST.

Also, no where in the post did it say he forced himself on her. It says he simply offered a deal, decline, then later accepted.

According to the post, she could have said no, paid the original amount, and no negative consequence would have been incurred by him. So no, the title is both inaccurate, and doesn't fit with the rest of his post.

It irks me too, but I don't see anything that says he forced her into anything.

[semaphore]

I didn't ignore what you said

Except you did. You completely ignored what I said about whether he is a rapist. I devoted two paragraphs to dealing with that issue specifically which you simply skipped over. Even though your whole involvement came about because of, and consists of, saying I called him a rapist. But instead of dealing with what would seem to be the only real point there is, instead you chose to endlessly bicker about your interpretation of whether I said that in an ancient post.

Talk about a petty waste of time.

I didn't bash you at all

You spent every post saying "okay you didn't really say it out loud but you are still lying".

Coming from the guy who started the insults with don't bash me with a hockey stick

And that's an insult, how?

This is what I actually said: "I have a perception that Canada sucks at dealing with sexual crimes due to the way they let rapists walk (a totally unsubstantiated accusation based on a few cases in the media, so don't bash me with hockey sticks)." And you feel insulted because... what, you're just looking for an excuse to be offended?

I explained my perception of Canada. I then clarified that this perception is not based on a factual analysis of reality, followed by a stereotypical joke about Canadian hockey. What's actually funny is that you don't recognise that what I said about Canada could be offensive, and yet you took my attempt at clarifying that what I said is not scientifically valid to be "flamebait".

I again have to quote this and I'll highlight it so there's no confusion.

And I've explained that I was venting about my frustrations with certain Canadian cases. Don't believe me? Fine, I can't control your beliefs. Spamming massive walls of texts over several pages just to argue about your interpretation of what I meant in an ancient minor post is petty and pathetic. Like what, you think I'm embarrassed about calling the landlord a rapist? I explicitly said that just then. Whether you want to interpret my older post to mean I said that back then too doesn't change my position on this one bit.

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You sure are investing alot of energy into a fake thread.

I have a lot of energy to spare when I'm procrastinating.

[Stuffs]

See thats the problem, I have seen plenty of posts advocating violence against him, chopping off his balls, killing him, breaking all his limbs. I have seen more people read a short post and jump right to RAPIST.

Knee jerk emotional responses are relatively common. When I heard about the WBC planned protests I had plenty of thoughts in the back of my head, but then I cooled off. It's not a big deal if you don't react them. And it's hardly difficult to imagine where rapist is coming from.

Also, no where in the post did it say he forced himself on her. It says he simply offered a deal, decline, then later accepted.
According to the post, she could have said no, paid the original amount, and no negative consequence would have been incurred by him. So no, the title is both inaccurate, and doesn't fit with the rest of his post.

It's called abusing a position of power. Just because he isn't holding a gun to her head doesn't mean its ok.
And you're kidding yourself if you think nothing negative would happen if she said no. When someone declines to sleep with the boss for a promotion, they tend to get kicked down a peg unless the boss gets in trouble.

[semaphore]

Also, no where in the post did it say he forced himself on her.

Also no one's accusing him of using physical force against her.

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My partner was made homeless once and stayed with a friend for a week, during that week he wanted sex with her, she said no but he persisted, they ended up having sex, Im sure she should be happy right because in exchange for that sex she basically got a weeks free living!

I'm sorry, I missed the part where landlord kept insisting and pressured her. I also missed the part where she was the landlord's friend.

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And you actually believed her?