Back to the New Coke analogy.
Before New Coke was released, Coca-Cola did blind taste tests that proved over and over that people liked the taste New Coke better than Classic Coke.
But when they replaced Classic Coke with New Coke, people revolted.
Strange as it sounds, people have an attachment to certain products. Screw with them too much and they revolt. They demand their comfortable, old version of the product back.
numbers from nost are confusing if i read them right. they used a 10-day active measurement for the 150k. not having the more normal 30-day number is an issue for any such modeling fun.
also, in this case, how do you account for players who were avoiding becoming criminals via wow private servers but would be interested in an official version? I think this situation in particular is at least somewhat unique for the genre. the potential pool of INTERESTED players may be an integer multiple of nost's active #.
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darth proposed a back-of-envelope cost structure. I think it got quickly into low 8 digits.
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I'm fairly certain we can say that judging by the input in this thread.
And I also think you're correct with what Blizzard would do, should they go and release a "classic" realm. At the very least they would have to build in the new Battle.Net features into it - which would enable them to do other modern things, like dungeon finders etc.
They've stated quite clearly they wouldn't be happy about the "buggy" state of the old code, so I doubt very much they'd ever release a "authentic" vanilla. It would be some sort of modern-classic-hybrid.
Yeah they did. Coca-Cola relented 3 months after releasing New Coke, and reintroduced Classic Coke.
New Coke was fully stopped in 2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke
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I don't think Blizzard would "modernize" Classic the way you speculated. Simply because they don't have to. They already have that modernized version of Classic: that's Retail! The entire point of Classic servers, if they ever happened, would be to capitalize on a niche Retail doesn't occupy anymore, and to bring in a demographic Retail can't attract anymore. Creating Classic servers that are basically Retail with the pre-Cataclysm world and the level capped at 60 would be about as redundant as tits on a fish. That's the kind of thing that would dilute Retail's playerbase, and that's something you can bet an extra pizza Blizzard wants to avoid at all costs.
So yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if a Classic client was implemented by Blizzard, it would feature UI improvements (AoE loot, movable frames, gear presets, etc.) and bug fixes, and possibly support for the new models and graphical options implemented since (likely all optional). The developers know what people want with Classic servers, and thankfully they seem to be close enough to the management to have the freedom to take the risks they want as long as the profits are high enough.
Nothing ever bothers Juular.
right. it would be everyones worst nightmare.
want classic servers? guess what, you get the LFD/LFR version, and whatever private server you play on now is much more likely to get legally contacted than ever before.
dont want blizzard cutting more rayd tears to do other stuff (like this)? sorry, there went your 7.1 patch. more raids in 8.0 in 2018 though so don't worry! Why not buy an instant60 boost on our classic server and join a naxx lfr raid and kill kt a few times and get atiesh?
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Unless they go overboard with it, I would be totally fine with this.
Not fine with stuff like LFD, LFR, crz, multi-faction, etc. but auto loot, bnet integration, wider quest logs, better system options & other various improvements usually provided by AddOns would be okay in my book.
you must be quite young, because you obviously have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
they never re-introduced coke with sugar (except kosher special bottlings), and some view the entire newcoke bizarro tale as having had the back door plan of switching the sweetener in coke. as I recall, KO was quite early to the corn sweetener scene. coke classic never tasted the same as old coke, even though it was years before I learned about the sweetener issue.
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been playing for about two weeks. nice players there.
everything was good except for the shitty latency.
idk but i kinda what it back
issue is the classic server wouldn't be for the folks on nost and those would want that kind of server, it would be for the wod customers who want fast and easy dungeons, etc, just killing the old bosses.
activation-blizzard doesn't release games tuned like classic wow anymore, period.
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I was 10 in 85. No, Coke wasn't my main source of nutrition at that time.
But this is the data from Wikipedia. If you don't like it, go change it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke
i dont know but things are escalating really fast.Now youre talking about cokes.
what the actual Coke??