My Idea On How To Make High Elves Happen

[Friendlyimmolation]

you're ignoring the basis for elven reunification (which is desired)

under Liadrin, who is Horde. And you already see high elves visiting Silvermoon back in Wotlk, doesnt make Blood elves neutral at all.

the established lore, the benefits to the race's withdrawal from the faction conflict, and the potential improvement to game play.

Lol the established lore has them farther into the Horde than ever before. Keep dreaming about them being neutral. That shit ended in Burning Crusade.

[In Ogres We Trust]

or people could finally understand Blood elves are the playable high elves.

Or you could stop trolling the lore forums for s***s and giggles.

[In Ogres We Trust]

No, not really. They don't have individual lore.
Up to twenty years or so ago they were the same as Blood Elves.
And their lore after that is already entwined in Sin'dorei lore.

It's just that beside their visual they do not bring anything special to the story.


Want to hear a good joke?
"Night Elf Arcane Mages"

Ruined their entire lore by giving the class to the Kaldorei, and it opens up the argument for Sin'dorei druids.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Or you could stop trolling the lore forums for s***s and giggles.

Pointing out the downright obvious is not trolling, sorry that your alliance elf fetish gets in the way of that. The High elf ship sailed back in Burning Crusade

[In Ogres We Trust]

under Liadrin, who is Horde. And you already see high elves visiting Silvermoon back in Wotlk, doesnt make Blood elves neutral at all.



Lol the established lore has them farther into the Horde than ever before. Keep dreaming about them being neutral. That shit ended in Burning Crusade.

And keep trolling for sh*** and giggles. That doesn't prove that you're right or that you have a point.

[Deleted]

Pointing out the downright obvious is not trolling, sorry that your alliance elf fetish gets in the way of that. The High elf ship sailed back in Burning Crusade

Not really. After all, you say that the Blood elfs get all the Story. Actually, the High Elves could be considered as a main Race of the Alliance, after all they have probably more Screentime than most playable races.

[In Ogres We Trust]

Pointing out the downright obvious is not trolling, sorry that your alliance elf fetish gets in the way of that. The High elf ship sailed back in Burning Crusade

Apparently, since they keep dangling the race to Alliance players, it fits the lore for their race, and the topic is a constant request on the forums... it didn't. However, that's a nice try, and yes, at this point, your posts are nothing more than an attempt at trolling.

P.S. I don't have an Alliance fetish, but that was a nice slur. I'm merely a fan of the Quel'dorei/Sin'dorei, the Forsaken, and ogres.

[Friendlyimmolation]

And keep trolling for sh*** and giggles. That doesn't prove that you're right or that you have a point.

coming from someone who ignores/dismisses lore because it goes against your wishes of Helves. Good job.

[Flurryfang]

Many people want High Elves, but many people don't. So, here's my idea on it:
Make High Elves a Night Elves subrace.
It seems good to me, but I wanna know your thoughts. Discuss!

But why? There is no need for it. It does not bring anything special with them and it would just be a small cosmetic change... Also, when it comes to lore, it would suck. The NE fucking hate the high elves, since they are the closests to the Well of Eternity elves, which you can find. The HE are greedy and only a little bit less malificent then the BE.

It really does not make sence in both the lore and in the game. Having them start at Teldrassil will not work, and i see no reason to have them be implemented in the game, since they can't really inrich the story in any large factor.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Not really. After all, you say that the Blood elfs get all the Story. Actually, the High Elves could be considered as a main Race of the Alliance, after all they have probably more Screentime than most playable races.

What have they done that makes them a main race of the current Alliance? Policed Dalaran? Blood elves have the homeland, the sunwell, the notable lore figures, and entire expansion and warcraft 3 campaign centered on them leaving. High elves have auric, who wants the High elves to rejoin the Blood elves, and Vereesa who can't decide if she wants to hate the Horde or Rule the Forsaken alongside her sister. The High elves literally pop up only when they need someone to make the Blood elves look better. Not to mention High elves do nothing but die, every group has sbeen killed off except for the ones under auric/ the few in hinterlands and the SC, who have joined up with the farstriders in legion

The greatest crime of all is that Vereesa however is a knaak character

[Graden]

After so many years, people still can't get over the fact that Blood Elves joined the Horde instead of the Alliance. Impressive.

[In Ogres We Trust]

After so many years, people still can't get over the fact that Blood Elves joined the Horde instead of the Alliance. Impressive.

Would you be happy with ogres on the Alliance to the exclusion of the Horde? So, as you can see, the argument will always be there, and with the introduction of neutral races via the Pandaren, the model is now in place to relocate the race to its proper location for purposes of game play.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Would you be happy with ogres on the Alliance to the exclusion of the Horde? So, as you can see, the argument will always be there, and with the introduction of neutral races via the Pandaren, the model is now in place to relocate the race to its proper location for purposes of game play.

"proper location" Did you never play warcraft III? Did you never play a blood elf? The alliance fucked up their chances 3 times now. You're not getting High elves. And as Long as Rommath/Liadrin/Haldaron/Lor'themar are in charge, Quel'thalas will never be Neutral, they offer the High elves a chance to come back to their home, they don't offer neutrality.

you try to brush away the entire reason the Blood elves are on the Horde and not on the Alliance. your comparison to the Alliance and ogres would only work if the Orcs continuously screwed over the ogres and the Alliance helped them, which has never happened. Just because your upset doesn't mean the lore is wrong, no matter how much you argue. Atleast with Pandaren they offer something to both sides. High elves offer nothing, Blood elves ARE the race now, they are the continuation of the race and the future of it and that race cemented itself fully with the Horde in Mists. Not only do you ignore this but you also try to hand wave away lore facts, such as the fact that "high elves" were all but exctint BEFORE their numbers were reduced even further in Cata to MoP. You'd have a better chance arguing for Kolbolds.

[Kithelle]

If Elune is indeed a Naaru, then they need to go ahead and bring in Night Elf Paladins. We already have Mages now, so having Paladins too will remove the desire to have a High Elf playable race.

I still would want high elves lol

I know the odds of it happening are like lottery odds but I still would like them, plus I don't want high elves because I want to play a pally

I want high elves because I like them...I like the model and all...and really like the soft blue glowing eyes...I play mainly alliance on WRA...most of my friends are alliance as well...and from so many sources I keep hearing over and over how bad horde rp is, so I don't make horde characters.

I know it wont happen and I know their numbers and dwindling down...doesn't mean I still don't want them!

[Stormdash]

After Legion give playable Nightborne to Horde and then Alliance can have their 'high elves'.

[Friendlyimmolation]

After Legion give playable Nightborne to Horde and then Alliance can have their 'high elves'.

or you know, give them to the Alliance. anything to make both faction and night elves more interesting. High elves do neither

[Obelisk Kai]

The Pro High Elfers in this thread are no fun to argue with. Where's the insane rants from Northem or the the Humans on the Horde nonsense from Ravenmoon or cmatsXXXX who humiliated himself spectacularly when he triumphantly quoted wowpedia to show how we were all wrong...only for someone to edit the wowpedia page in question and change the answer to something actually correct.

There's no passion here.

Maybe these threads are like WoW itself nowadays...just a bit tired?

[Friendlyimmolation]

The Pro High Elfers in this thread are no fun to argue with. Where's the insane rants from Northem or the the Humans on the Horde nonsense from Ravenmoon or cmatsXXXX who humiliated himself spectacularly when he triumphantly quoted wowpedia to show how we were all wrong...only for someone to edit the wowpedia page in question and change the answer to something actually correct.

There's no passion here.

Maybe these threads are like WoW itself nowadays...just a bit tired?

damn I missed that cmats thing.

[Obelisk Kai]

damn I missed that cmats thing.

It was hysterical. He spent every post shooting down every official source that disagreed with him and tying himself in rhetorical knots trying to argue why they didn't apply, that when he found one he felt DID agree with him (the High Elf capital was listed as Dalaran) he rushed back here to shove it in our faces.

Only for Aquamonkey to go and edit his 'proof' to None.

And then for him to revert the change and spend the next 48 hours insisting it was a valid source, he was correct, the High Elves had a capital and thus were a real race. I mean everyone spent time trying to explain how a wiki is editable and not one hundred percent reliable, but the fact Blizzard linked to it was good enough for him.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen happen in this debate.

[Lady Dragonheart]

Gameplay-wise, there's the issue of racial abilities and starting zones. High Elves are too variant to be a Night Elf subrace but not variant enough to disclose their own unique race, apart from the Blood Elves. They actually have more in common with humans from a gameplay-implementing standpoint than Night Elves.

It would actually be more effective to include them as their own race while granting the Horde an Alliance-like race. In my opinion, Eredar/Man'ari (Red demon Draenei) who have freed themselves (or been freed) from the Burning Legion could work in this instance, being more oppressed by the more righteous races of the Alliance (namely Night Elves and Draenei) would suit the Horde better, as the Horde is more accepting of such traits in the common calling of allying for survival versus oppression. Not only this, but they are essentially already gameplay polarized (Blood Elf and Draenei), thus duplicating this for Eredar/Man'ari and High Elf would be easy to implement under this condition. Also, red suits the Horde, being its signature color, so there's that bonus to note.