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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    In this case yes.
    It doesn't really matter to me what percentage of someone's income they pay in taxes, as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Don't like it? Work to close tax loopholes and havens.
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    I just think you retards are starting to get ridiculous with your childish language.

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    THey call it vetting

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    People releasing tax information is bad precedent. His financial affairs are a private matter, much like yours and mine.
    Trump ofcourse is above such things...His name alone is worth 3 billion dollars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifuyne View Post
    He should release his toupét back into the wild where it belongs.
    Too late. That thing was shot and killed years ago.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Speaketh a resident of that blacklisted tax-haven Guernsey.
    Lol nice try. Might want to actually do some research into the tax system here.

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    Isn't it standard practice for presidential candidates to release them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxere View Post
    It doesn't really matter to me what percentage of someone's income they pay in taxes, as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Don't like it? Work to close tax loopholes and havens.
    That's great for you. Donnie Deadbeat cared though when others were running. Imagine that, Trump being asked to be consistent. And Trump refusing to. I am sure it will comfort him that you don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Isn't it standard practice for presidential candidates to release them?
    Pretty much. And he himself has called on others to release theirs (Romney specifically).
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    He should just release them. He's got his name spread out over so much shit I'm sure it'll hurt some court proceding somewhere, but I mean... this is for President and looking hypocritical is dumb. If he abused the tax system, all the better, he's already said he has and it'll just prove him as being honest.

    I would also love to see the speeches Hillary gave to Wall Street.

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    None of the canidates should release their tax returns. I'm not sure who started it and I'm not sure why we care other than to pretend like we're catching people in a lie. While I don't overly subscribe to the cliche, I still think it goes without saying, politicians lie or at least exaggerate quiet a bit.

    I'm fine with some process that requires al presidential candidates to be vetted a bit to ensure they aren't straight up criminals, outside of that, I'm not 100% sure what the real value is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxere View Post
    It doesn't really matter to me what percentage of someone's income they pay in taxes, as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Don't like it? Work to close tax loopholes and havens.
    Trump's site lists his closing of those loopholes to be the result of his tax plan on corporations being so low, that it makes loopholes "redundant". Don't like it? Don't vote Trump... Don't believe it? Check his tax records...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    "Take what Trump says he's worth, divide that by four, then take that number and cut it in half and you're probably closer to the truth."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq0zw0hPoUM

    Not the first time someone has called Trump on his lying.
    Don't forget to account for Trump's massive debt load:
    Through heavy digging, Fortune identified the loans Trump has on these other buildings that are not included on his released balance sheet. Add to the loans and mortgages he does disclose and Fortune has determined that Trump’s total debt balloons to nearly $1 billion, or about double what he specifically acknowledges he owes. And it could be even larger.

    What’s more, Trump, even though he says he isn’t, by Fortune‘s calculations appears to be ignoring debt when calculating his equity in two of his most prestigious properties that are at the heart of his commercial office portfolio. He claims that portfolio is worth $1 billion. But factor in debt and it may only be worth half of that. Put it together and you get a better picture of why Trump is likely worth no where near the $10 billion he says he is.
    It's something that anyone whose voting based on Wall Street connections should keep in mind - the banksters bribe Hillary, and they also own Trump.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Murdock View Post
    None of the canidates should release their tax returns. I'm not sure who started it and I'm not sure why we care other than to pretend like we're catching people in a lie. While I don't overly subscribe to the cliche, I still think it goes without saying, politicians lie or at least exaggerate quiet a bit.

    I'm fine with some process that requires al presidential candidates to be vetted a bit to ensure they aren't straight up criminals, outside of that, I'm not 100% sure what the real value is.
    In this case your feeling don't really matter. He demanded others do it so I am not sure why he thinks he doesn't have to. My guess it is becasue it shows his actual value to be far less than the 10 Billion he claims.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    I don't know why he wouldn't release them, its not like they are his corporate taxes. I would be shocked if he didn't have a damn good accountant preparing them so its not like anything would be out of place. I wouldn't be surprised if they were relatively simple returns. The only reason I can think of is that he's not making much money on his personal return.

    If true its funny, Romney made too much, Trump makes too little.

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    He should. It is info which is expected for any candidate which is the nominee of their party for the general election. I think he will eventually before the election. He has said he will. When, is his choice as long as it is before Nov. I do not think he has any thing to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    Lol nice try. Might want to actually do some research into the tax system here.
    Oh I've done some. They all say Guernsey is a tax haven.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    If true its funny, Romney made too much, Trump makes too little.
    Romney refusing to reveal his taxes hurt his campaign more, than the actual taxes he revealed. If I remember correctly, the biggest shot against him after revealing taxes was that he invested in some firms that were tied to economic collapse. He wasn't a player in and had no impact on the dealings of the firm, so it was largely meaningless.
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    Birthers vs taxers clash of the regressives
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    MMO-C, where a shill for Putin cares about democracy in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    He should. It is info which is expected for any candidate which is the nominee of their party for the general election. I think he will eventually before the election. He has said he will. When, is his choice as long as it is before Nov. I do not think he has any thing to hide.
    I am curious as to why you think he will do so on his own before the election? After all he is now saying:

    'Will you push your lawyers on this, will you tell them that voters deserve to know this information regardless of the audit?' He said, 'No.' He said, 'One, the voters don't actually care about this, and two, there is no new l information that would come out of the tax returns.' "
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizardlorde View Post
    Birthers vs taxers clash of the regressives
    Ironically enouph, the taxes reveal was set as a standard by George Romney nearly 50 years ago. Who was also embroiled in his own birther issues, dealing with his family living in Mexico.

    Tax record reveal has nothing to do with regressives. It's a standard set by a republican before most of us were born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Oh I've done some. They all say Guernsey is a tax haven.
    You know jack shit then. Guernsey has been taken off several such lists, its all rumour that idiots believe. You can't just move all your shit to Guernsey and avoid taxes, there's reporting standards that get you busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    I am curious as to why you think he will do so on his own before the election? After all he is now saying:

    'Will you push your lawyers on this, will you tell them that voters deserve to know this information regardless of the audit?' He said, 'No.' He said, 'One, the voters don't actually care about this, and two, there is no new l information that would come out of the tax returns.' "
    I guess I watch other news sources than you do. I have seen him answer very clearly he would release his tax returns and he felt he should.

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